What's it like being ugly? Are you treated differently socially? I'm not trying to be rude or anything...

I am a confirmed 8/10, but I spent a few years with a deformity that caused people to treat me differently.
Pretty much thisNo one ever cared about anything I had to say, everyone thought I was less intelligent, and no one really cared if I was there or not. It was so hurtful because at first girls would think I was really hot, but then they would notice the deformity and immediately change how they acted and usually make up an excuse and just leave abruptly. Really fucked me up for a while. Resorted to hardcore alcoholism and drug use. Fixed the deformity, stopped doing drugs/alcohol, life's great now.

Taught me a lot about how much life sucks for ugly people. Funniest thing is, I treat ugly girls the exact same way I was treated even knowing how bad it feels. It's just life, and life's not fair.

What deformity?

I browsed /r9k/

Also, if you're male at least, it's not unusual to have complete strangers threaten to punch you in the face. You have to develop an incredibly thick skin or you will kill yourself. At that point I believe average people/attractive people really are softer/have thinner skin.

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Is that things name possum?

If you've seen some of his others pics that get posted sometimes he actually seems to have a pretty active social life a close friends. Not likely he's gotten laid though.

Yes. I believe having life hard gives you an incredible advantage over the average faggot. You've got the thickes skin and are basically impervious to a lot of shit, since you suffered so much. It happened to me since I was unbelievably skinny during my teenage years (44kg at 180cm back in HS) aswell as acne ridden.

Why do ugly guys always go for blacks?

Is it like a "I cant do any better" kind of thing or what

It seems like every ugly girl I meet has had a black bf but virtually every normal weight girl seems to think theyre gross

My cock was too long

What makes a man look like that?

except most of fit is a bunch of social outcasts or losers who bitch about what thinskinned people dont even notice, so how does that work

Eating too many Baby Ruths

Being ugly doens't make you hated. Maybe getting laid may be more difficult, but it stops there. The real point are frustaded people who blames it's own uglyness for their failure and become grunty idiots or insecure sad cunts. It's all about your maturity and charisma, even beautyful people may have strugle to socialize if they are arrogant or autismo like a lot of luck guys in this romanian farming trade forum.

But the difference is that, when you are good looking, your interactions will be interpreted more favorably in just about every circumstance.

eating bees everyday

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Well, I felt all my life excluded. When you're lucky you're at least the second choice, people treat you disrespectful. You rarely get invited to hang out,and if you talk to much people are getting annoyed by you very quickly and if you start talking less people think you're autistic. Its just much harder to gain friends and to convince people of yourself.
You always have to be careful what you say, because if you say something wrong what the person doesn't like, you can fuck up a relationship very quick and loss your sympathy. I noticed that taking care of relationships is like playing sims.
You always need to say funny stuff & good stuff just to maintain the "relationship bar" in a positive area as soon you say something wrong you can fuck it up within minutes and you're out. much more investment to maintain friendships, you always have to deliver high quality shit while other people can get away with stupid shit.
Also women pretty much ignore and avoid you, you will never witness a women who initiates a conversation by herself. So pretty no sex and no relationships. And when you do it like me and you try to change your appearance by fitness. Some women get offended by it because by their view you suppose to crawl back to your hole and stay there.
I don't want to feel self-pity but I'm fucked..
I'm poor and ugly and have almost no friends except for one but he lives in a different city so we can't spend so much time together, this year I spend my NYE at home in front of my pc because no one invited me.
It's really hard to stay positive and mentally sane when you get treated this way and spend most time alone, who am I suppose to develop a good personality then ?

Totally agree on that one. I went to club with some friends 1,5 year ago, it was the time I was very skinny und lanky. Some drunktard wanted to start a fight with me, if though I didn't do anything to me, he just started pushing me as our ways crossed.

Good looking guy here. I surf life on the gravy train and while I have to work for my shit, I notice I don't have to work as hard as other people.
I kinda feel bad about this but I fucking hate ugly people and their ugliness taints everything they do. When an ugly person is nice to me, all I can think is that they are being nice just because they have to be or else they'd have nothing. When an ugly person hands me workpapers in an engagement, I am much more likely to review their work because I don't trust their shit. Whenever a client wants to meet, I never put the ugly guy on it and an ugly girl only if I'm meeting with females.
I realize I'm part of the problem and not the solution, but I like being privileged. I was born good looking and no one can take that from me no matter what. I got mine, so fuck all of you.

Nah bro. Being ugly is literally playing life on hard mode. For example, in uni, I had to do a group project. I was given the easiest part but I had to do a lot of crap for other classes so I never really got around to doing it. The girls in my group basically said "Oh user, it's really alright. It's not really hard. Can you just present well?" And I got 5 star reviews from my all of them.
On the other hand, the ugly guy got completely shat on. His work wasn't the best but it wasn't bad either. They ripped on him, his outfit, his sort of autistic speech tendencies, and his hygiene when we had meetings without him. I, of course, threw him under the bus because I wanted to get on their good side. I went on a date with one of them afterwards.
Project bro, if you're reading this, I'm sorry :( but I really wanted the poontang

Man, I used to be very ugly and very awkward.

Now I am good looking - I have an amazing partner and other women will actively give me their numbers and ask to kiss and fuck me, etc - but I'm still very awkward.

The funny thing is, when I go home and girls from high school see what I look like and hear what I am doing with my life now (I moved abroad and make more money than they will ever make), they all want to talk me, but I literally don't know who they are because they never paid attention to me and so, when I moved, I completely forgot about them. The only girl I remember is the girl who would actively call me 'rat face' and shit. What a cunt. I hear she has a deadbeat husband, kids and got fat now.

But anyway, now they make out like I'M the bad guy because I don't know who they fuck they are when they talk to me. Women are a fucking joke.

The only reason I know this isn't me is because I never missed a project meeting

Actually some average people avoid prettier ones, because of the assumption that they are arrogant, untrustful in relationships or just out of their league. While the same kind of people will treat the ''poor little one'' better because of empathy or because they may be emotionally harmless.

Of course the beautiful one may have some advantages over ugly people, but believing that they life in easy mode is naive. You always have to pay a price in life, my friend.

Sociality involves way more factors than looks. If you are ugly and unlucky with people, that's because you are a loser, not because your appearance.

Chill nigga, for all you know you could get your face fucked up in an accident or something, so be nicer to people you deem as ugly. Jesus.

Average faced lanklet here

People smile and actually look at me occasionally but rarely approach me. As much as people want to deny it height and face is important.
I'm glad I'm not a manlet with an average face otherwise I would probably feel invisible.

Anytime I see an generally unattractive person they don't seem to hide their flaws which is admirable. Probably just accepting the shit hand given.

Lol there was this guy in my class who was a hamplanet, greasy hair, and sounded like he was gonna have asthma attack all the time. He had to take notes on a clipboard because his mass spilled out onto the desk he could barely fit in

Dude had the funniest personality and had the confidence of Chad. We loved him. Still, because he looked like 500lb Quasimodo you could still feel the cringe and everyone just wishing he wasn't there so we didn't have to watch him die just in case his body finally gave out there

>friends used to call me ugly all the time in HS
>Went to college
>Chicks and gay dudes think im cute
>Start getting Veeky Forums
>Now im called handsome by all female and gay coworkers
>Everybody at work talks about muh gloots
>New friends mire
>Old friend got fat and lost hair
>Still calls me ugly
>Know hes mad cause we double teamed a register worker at our old job when we were younger and my dick was way bigger

So I thought i knew what it was like to be ugly, but i dont. mfw

No.
I am good looking and have been told so by many female acquaintances, including platonic friends.
I am naturally intelligent, went to a good school, and make a very good living ($100k+ for an undergrad degree).
Women throw themselves at me, or otherwise make it very easy to get into their pants and fuck with their heads.
I was simply born with superior genes. I literally believe I am a better person just by right of birth, like a medieval noble.
I know one day a reckoning is coming, but until then, I glory in my greatness.

Shit I'm a fucking narcissist aren't I?

Yeah, but so is everyone. You're just a lucky narcissist.

This. I'm intimidatingly attractive but debillitatingly autistic; no one approaches me and I don't approach anyone else so I'm left to be forever alone.

Seriously, chill your face nigga. That "day of reckoning" could literally come at anytime, so why not try and be a bit less, uh, self-centered?

Two reasons:
1. If I get into an accident and become disfigured, I know the score. I'm going to be treated like a subhuman. Being nice or kind is not going to change that. So why would I do something like that?

2. Once I get married in about five years and have kids, it literally won't matter. I spread my seed and have spawned more genetically superior humans.

legit heartbreaking post. really made me think and I probably won't pretend to be ugly on the internet anymore

People don't hide their disrespect for you, they talk over you, nobody really wants to be around you, all that sort of stuff, no friends, I even had a teacher who would laugh when I was beaten or picked on.
You're obviously invisible at best to girls, sometimes it's like they're offended at your presence. I dress nice, cut my hair, good hygiene, doesn't really seem to make a difference. I was told once it doesn't suit me to try to look attractive.

I realized I was unattractive when I noticed how differently girls responded to guys around me, I remember my shock when I realized most of the people in my class have had sex back around grade 8.

Back when I was really skinny as a teenager, I would get picked on by everyone from kids to adults, I had girls come up to me and just hit me or throw stuff at me for no reason.

At this point I know I'll never be attractive, but I still lift because people at least don't fuck with me now that I'm bigger, and I learned some boxing, although I almost wish I could run into some cocky cunts like just to take some stress out on.

Post pic stupid

This. I look good in mirror but awful on camera. Can't tell which version of me I actually look like to other people

post handsome face pls

here, reading some posts here I'd agree with what and said
Also I go out of my way to be nicer to ugly people, especially if it seems like they're at least trying to take care of themselves.

i was 6'1 220lbs and, a bit overweight and it could be seen from my face

got occasional looks from girls and i was treated pretty averagely, when i went to for example doctor, i could see sometimes disgust from hes look just because i was a bit chubby NEET at the time

lost 40lbs and did some cardio to tighten up places and guys give you a lot more respect, they talk to you more, you're considered more, girls give looks all time etc, and doctors treat you with respect for example

i was never ugly, but looks really matter too much on day to day encounters with people

your posts sound like bait
post your face retard

>tfw just slightly above average looking but coast by just by acting as nice as ugly people feel they have to be to be respected

It's unbelievable to me how easy it is to get through life just by being polite, punctual, and not hard to look at. I don't even work hard and I've only ever had one interview in my life where I wasn't offered the job.

Jesus christ. Who told you it doesn't suit you to look attractive?

I may be a narcissist but I'm not a fucking moron. I'm not getting doxed like that fucking retard professor from Drexel. I have a career in professional services to worry about. You think I'd risk it all just to satisfy your curiosity?
This probably won't reassure you, but I'm not fucking baiting. You don't have to fucking believe me if you don't want. I'm just saying the truth as I have experienced it and my darker inner thoughts which I can't tell anyone except you fuckers on this Uzbek shadow puppet forum.

Some girl from high school

Please be in Brisbane

I mean I kind of understand what they were saying. Someone who just flatout is not attractive, but is very obviously trying to dress and carry themselves as if they are can be a little unconvincing and occasionally off-putting, but that person was still a massive dickhead for telling him that.

I guess neither? In the mirror you only get one angle, completely under your control, but that doesn't happen when you are in motion. And with photos you overjudge your expression while thinking that the others look alright, and the others do the same with their own photos. You never see someone on the street and think "wow, that dude only looks acceptable from this angle and nothing else", right? The same would apply to you.

Some women are mean. Especially shit quality ones who know they can only get fucked by quality guys, never dated by them.

By tearing you down, she was trying to raise her own perceived value. She disqualified you as a game of mental gymnastics, it has little to do with you. Especially if there was no context.

You sure you haven't got a weak personality? As in passive, non-aggressive, undominant. Hoes like that smell weakness mile away.

People tell you. People I don't even know or that I've just met will often tell me that I'm good looking in such a tone as though referencing the blueness of the sky. Even other guys that are jealous will point it out every now and then with some bitter remark or something. And girls just take a liking to you without you having to do or say anything. Not all of them of course, but enough of them and in sufficient frequency. I've been told to just keep my mouth shut and not say anything stupid because some girl I barely know is dtf as long as I don't screw it up. I also get random mires from strange women and gay dudes all the time. Some guy at a red light is staring at me so I look at him like wtf, he smiles and winks. I'm standing infront of somebody I know's house and their milf neighbor pulls up and gives me a shout out. Many such cases.

But yeah. The whole world just tells you. People always like me too. In some ways it's fucked me up a little because I'm kind of a narcissistic con man now.

I'm 99.9% sure less than 25% of your class had sex by grade 8. How old are people then, 14, 15? Most of them were just lying to fit in. It's what they do around that age.

Of course, I still lied about my virginity when I was 19, but hey.

i had girls(moslty drunk) come up and be mean to me or say something offensive etc. but i awlays have girls hitting on me.. idk i guess some people find me attractive and to others i'am ugly

>Shit I'm a fucking narcissist aren't I?

Maybe. You're mainly insufferable. Although this is probably bait.

>tfw people naturally like me but I hate literally everybody I meet until I get to know them and still hate about 80% of the people I do get to know

Makes me feel like I'm living a lie. I don't even know why people like me. I'm not even a sociable person.

I tried to be friendly and energetic as a kid, but I'd always get rejected, eventually I developed a submissive personality, yeah.
I pretty much just keep to myself and I like it that way.

I seen people who were even more shy than me though, they don't get treated like I do.

I mean, if you wanted to know this you should probably ask someone that was beautiful and got into a freaky accident and ended up like super mega deformed or maybe someone who aged.

or maybe someone who got a ton of plastic surgery and became pretty

bro really im about out cry. same fucking here
are you me ? finally some one who knows how it is... I witnessed the exact same experience.
I'd really like to have a conversation with you..
give me some contact data bruh
I know how you feel, Im coping with the same feelings

Yeah, but is it a matter of looks or the fact that he upped his clothing and style game? I mean, if someone perceives you as x, then acting like y will irritate the shit out of them - you're going against their perceptions, and by that themselves.

I'm in uni and got my 1/2/3/4, hygiene is ok, style is a bit shit but nothing screamingly autistic. People who knew me before I started lifting perceive me differently from new acquaintances.

The contrast is actually funny. In one side, there's female attention and fun, in the other unaesthetic women who try and give me crap - that gets tossed right back because I'm becoming more narcissistic and uncaring by the day.

Sorry don't want to talk to someone ugly.

Probably partly because a lot of dudes who looked slovenly before try to clean up their shit but end up buying awful clothes that even most high-schoolers could see were just an attempt to look cooler without any actual sense for fashion.

I stick with jeans, a t-shirt, and work boots most times I go out and I don't really have any issues socially. Similarly, many other dudes could do the same but they overshoot and try to dress above their ability (if that makes sense) and it looks goofy most of the time.

I wasn't always like this. I always had good bone structure but I was severely depressed from 8th grade to the beginning of 11th grade. Like depressed animals are like to do, I ignored my appearance. I grew my hair long as fuck and never washed it enough to get the grease out. I wore shitty wire frame glasses. I had a lot of fucking acne. I wore the same clothes every day and hung out by myself. I was on the verge of permanent weeaboo/otakudom.
One day, I met a girl who basically felt pity for me and made me her pet project. We never fucked or went out on dates. We were strictly platonic. We went to a barber shop, she told them what haircut I was going to get, helped me pick out new clothes, and took me to social events where people are less judgmental like church or volunteer events.
I eventually grew more extroverted and made some of my best friends even to this day. I got Veeky Forums and got mired. Girls who completely ignored me before and actively avoided me now tried to sit next to me. I still said some autist shit but instead of getting a fucking huge verbal whiplash, there was a lot more tolerance to my quirks and slips. It was like stepping into a different fucking world, like fucking day and night. I've been on both sides of the fence. Unfortunately, it fucking blew up my ego and now I'm just a raging egomaniac. I find contempt for other people who can't dig themselves out of their holes.
As for my savior girl, she was one of my best friends until she told me she fucking hated the person I had become.
I admit, I had natural advantages all along so my transition was actually possible, unlike for actual uglyfags, but I can't help but think this way. I completely deny that part of my past happened. I deleted all my photos from that time period. It's like from ages 12 to 16, I never existed except for school year pictures. I need to deny this time period existed in order to preserve this notion of superiority and my ego. you feel me?

I've got a similar style going. Except I shoot for V-neck t shirts, since crew necks look kind of goofy on traps.

Could you describe your basic wardrobe?

>that hair
>that nose
>those lips
>acne

I feel sorry for this guy, he really did get genetically fucked over.

I kek'd loudly.

It's literally that simple. If I'm going to the bar with friends it'll be comfortably fitting jeans that are a bit loose around the waist but firm on the thighs and a t-shirt that fits similarly. I look strong but have more fat than I'd like so I don't go super tight on anything, but loose shit makes me look like I'm wearing a tent so I try to hit that sweet middle spot on all my clothes.
In the summer it's not uncommon for me to just wear athletic shorts, a t-shirt, and flip-flops everywhere. People make fun of me a bit for it, but I take it in stride so they accept it and are still friendly with me and it turns into more talking shit than actually trying to hurt my feelings.

If I'm just hanging out with friends it's full slob sweatpants and an old ratty t-shirt or cutoff, still with my work boots usually.

Depends on the look you're going for. Veeky Forums is better for this type of stuff.
I wear the urban yuppie core stuff. Slim button downs, polos, fitted slacks, chukkas, wingtips, boat shoes. If I'm feeling grungy, I wear a leather jacket, a T, tan or navy jeans, and boots (I fucking love Frye's.) Flannel and a beanie for that lumberjack look. I never wear sneakers anymore unless they're running shoes or plain white Nike tennis shoes.

>tight on shoulders and chest but loose on midsection

If you lift that's practically every shirt that exists.

Should note as well that I live in rural-ish Kentucky so fashion isn't really much of a thing here so I don't look very out of place at all

I think you've got the realization that people are merciless if they perceive you as shit.

Of course it fucks with your ego when changes in looks and behavior give you vastly different life experiences.

You don't hold any contempt for people and their superficiality? The fact that 'you' is worthless, but 'you with an attitude adjustment and a haircut' is the bomb?

Perhaps the narcissism is just a natural reaction to the whole experience? I mean, even the girl who saved you hated you because she didn't expect such a change from her pet project - can't feel sorry for you now.

>When a shirt is really comfy but it hits your chest and then just continues at that angle so it makes it look like your belly is twice as big as it actually is

I have always been good looking. Even when i was at 30% bf. Greeny blue eyes and jet black hair with pale skin at 5'11 got me far. A positive outlook and general confidence has given me a great headstart over others not so blessed. I was bullied very harshly though through highschool for being on the swim team constant fights and always outnumbered. Really humbled me. I know how it feels to be overlooked and i use what i have and what i want to get even further.

Life is complicated.
I've always been tall, broad, and at least decent looking and I've always been hated or ignored on sight.
I've also got a knack for leadership.
Go fucking figure.

Not that guy, but I always wear blue-collar button-ups tucked into cargo or khaki pants and practical shoes.

It did fuck with my head a lot. I started to feel bitter as fuck about all those years people avoided me and how a simple lifestyle adjustment could have prevented years of bullying and anger management therapy.
I grew very cynical from the experience and embraced social realpolitik.
Superficiality isn't unfounded. We naturally see it as a reflection of a person's health and ability to take care of themselves. I became a total douchebag and hung out with the upper crust of high school and uni society. I was never quite a Chad, more like a Ryan or a Colin, but life has been extremely good to me since my metamorphosis.
It sort of bugs me that for every guy like me, there are a dozen who never break out and never have the chance to. I don't think about it because it would drive me crazy.
If there's one regret I have in all this, it's losing that girl as a friend. She was one of the nicest people I will ever meet. I know this in my heart. She's probably out there now, a life coach to losers.

Sorry man, not to sound like a dick but I'm not really a social person
I don't talk to anyone and I'd like to keep it that way

>It sort of bugs me that for every guy like me, there are a dozen who never break out and never have the chance to.
You being a complete fucking prick to those people doesn't help much

GOBAD, son!

Yeah, no. Not him but you get what you're worth in other people's eyes. Being a complete prick is actually rewarding, if you're seen as a valuable person.

You're justifying being a piece of shit because you think you've 'earned' it, but you're still a piece of shit.

Like I said, I don't have really have a lot of empathy left over any more. That died when I realize 95% of people don't give a fuck about you except what you can give them. Social status is cultivated by hanging out with desirable people. Using good looking people really helps with the clients (easier on the eye and I don't have to really worry about them sperging out because of crippling social anxiety).
Picking on people lower on the totem than me is the only real thing that gives me any sort of joy these days. I see why the people who fucked with me back in the day did it. The best part is that it will almost 99% certainly never come back around to bite me in the ass.

his face looks like he was burned
>tfw no qt burn victim to snuggle at night

Am I ugly if children always stare at me?

Sounds like you're decently above average.
I've been with some qt grils. I've never had trouble getting a gf or being starved of sex. I dont the kind of attention you say you do though.
Get some frequent mires. I brush off most of the mires as just being because the only fit person where I work, plus I live in south Louisiana, not far south of New Orleans. Everyone is fat here, so being mildly fit sets you apart.
My face looks incredibly like my father's, except he's gone full dad bod into his 50s. Im also a good 2-3 inches taller. I get compliments left and right from family because of this. I think it's just because I remind my aunts and uncles of what my dad was like in his 20s-30s. He was pretty built.

Just for the record, people probably weren't throwing rocks at you or whatever "for no reason". It was for this shit. I imagine this is going to be a controversial opinion on this website, but nearly every kid I ever knew who got bullied deserved it. I mean, yeah, they were all ugly, but that's not why they got bullied. They got bullied because they were fucking weird. If you don't behave correctly in social situations there's this weird reaction that people have where they just despise you for it.

It can't be helped. It's a pack animal thing. If there's a weird chimp the other chimps just kill it. The rest of the wolves abuse the shit out of omega wolves for fun. Its how we grow stronger as a group. Single out the weakest link and make an example out of them. Don't like it? Try being a team player next time.

Every bullied kid and outcast I ever met was a fucking weirdo. I knew plenty of fat or ugly guys who were treated perfectly well because they weren't socially retarded and knew how to react correctly if someone tested them.

>narcissistic con man
Is this natural progression from face gains?

im ugly and fat but im also pretty tall (6'6")
i dont think people treat me differently all that much, i'm just taciturn and when people realize this they stop bothering.
i don't think i'd be completely ugly if i lost weight and got my teeth fixed, but i'm too lazy to do anything about it

Well all I can say is I hope you run into someone like me one day who won't take your shit

You're probably good for that, to teach people not tot take shit from prettyboys

Hey man, sometimes I think I have it tough just cause I'm fat, but at least that's something i can change. I hope you get really jacked one day and pull loads of sluts. I work in retail and I see incredibly ugly people everyday and many of them are in relationships with decent looking chicks. There's hope for us all my dude.

didn't read any of your shit, but you're really emotionally invested what your 'inferiors' think, typing out all this shit

He looks beyond ugly, looks like a chimp attack victim

Why do Americans dress so terribly?

I get the 'dress to be your boss' mentality in the office, but women hate that shit anywhere else.

>the glorious feel of working in tech and getting to wear, literally, whatever the fuck I want

Nice trips. But yeah, you're right. I'm very emotionally invested in that Veeky Forums post I farted out in under five minutes. p disappointed you didn't deign to read it bredgewick.