Infamous prison camps

Whenever we talk about Nazism and Communism, the conversation always (for understandable reasons) drifts toward the concentration camps and gulags and the horrors within them that even today stir outrage in many of us. Both had a penchant for throwing masses of mostly innocent people into glorified hogpens that reached a point where it became intertwined with their respective governments in the eyes of the world. When you talk to people about National Socialism or Communism, their thoughts are quick to drift to the horrors of the camps.

But we don't really ever talk that much about prison and internment camps as a phenomena outside of those two. So I decided put up a thread about it.

TL;DR post prison camps throughout history that by accident or design became synonymous with squalor, misery, and death. One rule, avoid posting ones from Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union (that means no Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, or Gulags), all other countries/governments are allowed though.

I guess I'll start with one I've actually been to myself, Andersonville prisoner of war camp. Built in 1864 to house Union enlisted soldiers captured by the Confederate States. Rapidly became overcrowded to nearly four times its capacity after prisoner exchanges were halted. Disease, starvation, and violence swept through the prison, ultimately killing 13,000 out of 45,000 inmates (or nearly 1/3rd). Although it was hardly the only POW camp where such suffering was prevalent, it became the most infamous. The horrors of the camps remain one of the most emotionally explosives issues on the Civil War in American society today apart from slavery.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Penitentiary,_Marion
loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/weyler.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zgoda_labour_camp
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel
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Damn is this the narrative you people at Veeky Forums live in? Making threads specifically about things white people did and acting like it was just talk about out of nowhere?

You can post about prison camps from Asia or Africa if you want to diversify it.

Nah just here to call out narratives being pushed. Veeky Forums is hardly a place worth placating myself with first world luxury of ignoring everything happening in real life.

Also, this thread has nothing to do with race. It's about the phenomena of killing large numbers of people by warehousing them in a squalid Hell. Examples of which, you can find all over the world.

the Yanks deserved worse than Andersonville desu

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jeeze man, put down the paranoia goggles

Redpill me on being a faggot

What about american prisons?

>highest prison population in all the world
>highest degree of inmates with non-violent offences
>rape and gangmurders common(?)

ITT

land of the free lmfao

I dunno, theyr full of scum so dont really care.

>>rape and gangmurders common(?)
this is a serious mis-conception
these are only common in high-security level facilities, which represent a minority of the overall prison population

>high security
>the prisoners can murder and rape each other

>Emily Hobhouse tells the story of the young Lizzie van Zyl who died in the Bloemfontein concentration camp: She was a frail, weak little child in desperate need of good care. Yet, because her mother was one of the "undesirables" due to the fact that her father neither surrendered nor betrayed his people, Lizzie was placed on the lowest rations and so perished with hunger that, after a month in the camp, she was transferred to the new small hospital. Here she was treated harshly. The English disposed doctor and his nurses did not understand her language and, as she could not speak English, labeled her an idiot although she was mentally fit and normal. One day she dejectedly started calling for her mother, when a Mrs Botha walked over to her to console her. She was just telling the child that she would soon see her mother again, when she was brusquely interrupted by one of the nurses who told her not to interfere with the child as she was a nuisance. Quote from Stemme uit die Verlede ("Voices from the Past") - a collection of sworn statements by women who were detained in the concentration camps during the Second Boer War (1899-1902).

That School in Cambodia which the Khmer Rouge turned into a death camp for """"counter-revolutionaries""""

>being this defensive and paranoid about fringe racial beliefs you literally only hold in Veeky Forums and nowhere else

>Internment is the imprisonment or confinement of people, commonly in large groups, without trial. The term is especially used for the confinement "of enemy citizens in wartime or of terrorism suspects". Thus, while it can simply mean imprisonment, it tends to refer to preventive confinement, rather than confinement after having been convicted of some crime. Use of these terms is subject to debate and political sensitivities.

You generally only wind up in American prisons after being convicted of a crime. Whether or not your conviction was warranted is another story though.

The only good thing about this film was the music.

Andersonville was bigly hellhole back in the day. They recreated parts of it and turned the land into a memorial/park.

Tuol Sleng

>Both had a penchant for throwing masses of
I read that as pinochet...

The GULAG also had a lot of actual criminals. Does that justify what happened there?

If Solzhenitsyn is to believe, actual criminals like convicted rapists and murderers were privileged in gulags and were oppressing the political prisoners.
My understanding is that Russian empire was extremely harsh towards violent prisoners and lenient towards political prisoners, while in the USSR it was the other way around.

I hope the nurse who tried to stop the other one comforting her died of something awful.

>that one time a Jewish member of the Aryan Brotherhood murdered two guards for fun

lmao

>let out of his cell for a shower, (((Silverstein))) used a ruse to get Clutts to walk ahead of him and positioned himself between Clutts and other officers. He stopped outside the cell of another inmate, Randy Gometz. Gometz passed a homemade prison knife, known as a shank, to Silverstein and unlocked Silverstein's handcuffs with a homemade key. Silverstein then attacked Clutts, stabbing him several dozen times. (((Silverstein))) later claimed that he murdered Clutts in retaliation for Clutts' deliberately harassing him. Among other things, Clutts was accused of destroying paintings by (((Silverstein))).
>A few hours later, (((Silverstein's))) friend, Clayton Fountain (also an Aryan Brotherhood member) used the same strategy to kill another correction officer, Robert Hoffmann.
>USP Marion was subsequently placed on an indefinite lockdown, which ultimately lasted for 23 years. Following the murder of Clutts, (((Silverstein))) was transferred to the United States Penitentiary, Atlanta, where he was placed in solitary confinement. His security status was recorded as "no human contact." The events surrounding the murders of Correction Officers Clutts and Hoffmann inspired the design of the federal supermax prison, the United States Penitentiary, Florence ADX (USP Florence ADX) in Colorado, which opened in 1994 and was built to house the most dangerous inmates in the federal prison system. (((Silverstein))) and Gometz are both currently held at ADX Florence. Fountain died at the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri in 2004.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Penitentiary,_Marion

t. NBF

dude you seriously need to take a walk outside and realize the whole world isn't out to get you.

I'd say the acting was pretty spot on.

This is a D&C shill
t. /pol/

This helped start the Spanish-American War

loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/weyler.html

Bump for interest

High security more just means it's harder to break out.

But to get to a high security you have to be the worst of the worst.

I remember hearing a story a few months ago, this hitman got sent to a level 6 facility (the highest possible) it shouldn't theoretically be possible to touch other inmates. Well this dude ended up somehow strangling someone to death, despite being under guard and in a literal cage.

He wanted the death penalty, which is why he did it.

actually Pinochet used soccer stadiums

Aren't you supposed to say "Andersonville didn't happen but it should have," Johnny?

It was the Dirty Warriors in Argentina who used helicopters, right?

no they used cargo aircraft, helicopter flying time is more expensive

>He wanted the death penalty

He could've just forced the guards to shoot him by trying to jump the fence or attacking an inmate with a knife in the open..

The "Salt Pit" in Afghanistan was a notoriously cruel prison for detainees where torture was common-it also happened to be the place where many ISIS members first radicalized and organized.

Is run by a big guy wearing a mask by any chance?

God shut the fuck up you retard....

This is your brain on fox news and fluriode.

Prisons are a privatized business in the us thats why they are so fucking full.
A lot of the "scum" is in for retarded charges.

The famous Polish concentration camps. You can go to jail for using this term, but there were actual Polish concentration camps such as Bereza camp or after the war Polish communist camps for Germans and Volksdeutsche.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zgoda_labour_camp
This was the worst one.

>Run by the NKVD
>AK members incarcerated as well

Wouldn't that make it a Russian camp?

Bump

Andersonville....I believe the commander there was the only person to be tried as a result of hte civil war

>t continued to be used until November of the same year, under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Public Security of Poland. It was one of several camps of this type in Silesia (the central camp was the one in Jaworzno).
This guy was the commandant. He was a Jew.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel

Another deadly camp was in Łambinowice.

>Jewish member of the Aryan Brotherhood

One of two, the other was Champ Ferguson, who unlike Henry Wirz, was almost certainly guilty of most if not all of the crimes he was accused (Wirz was convicted of charges such as personally murdering scores of prisoners despite having a badly crippled arm that made it impossible for him to use a firearm). Ferguson, by his own admission, killed nearly 100 people and was so brutal that the Confederate authorities had him arrested at one point.

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Birmingham.

Krauts had it coming. Obviously the whole thing was done in a botched way, as expected from communists

Sounds like your typical /pol/tard LARPer

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Aryan Brotherhood isn't a white supremacist or white nationalist organization, it's just a fucking prison gang. So they accept kikes, Mexicans, Arabs, all kinds of non-whites.

GULAGs should be brought back and established in every country.

If only Americans didn't mutilate their babies it would be pretty easy (especially in a prison environment) to see who is a Jew or a Muslim.

Calm down Alex.

Theyre not political/ideological for the most part, its a gang

>implying your country doesn't have a gulag
>implying my country doesn't have a gulag

We've all got gulags, user.

Yeah but the Soviet ones are cooler than ours.

Back in the 30's we got a lot of German, Polish, Italian and other European immigrants, most of them were escaping post war regions or escaping fascism. Our president in 1940, while not a Nazi, did a lot to appeal to the German government, banned the Jews from coming to the country, took citizenship away from Poles, etc.

Most groups of German immigrants or descendants were actually against the Nazis and constantly attacked his government for the laws they passed to appeal to uncle Hitler. When Germany declared war to the USA, out president being the parasite he is, did a 180° turn and declared war on Germany.

He also used this as a way of getting rid of all those anti - fascism groups, most of them made up of Germans and Italians. So the government built concentration/prison camps for Germans and Italians, using the war as an excuse, but basically they sent there anybody who complained about the government or pointed out how months before they were sucking Adolf's ass.

The camps were soon beyond capacity, a lot of people died, mostly of cholera, tuberculosis and hypothermia.

What country are you from?

Argentina I imagine

which country?

Cuban historybros give me the straight dope. Were the reconcentration camps really that terrible or was it all a bunch of lies made to stir up support for American intervention?

You think our prisons are bad? Just wait until you see the jails.

Since I started this thread using an example from the American Civil War, I'll all post another one, Libby Prison. If Andersonville could be described as a squalid, open-air Hell. Libby would be the exact opposite, a claustrophobic Hell.

>"Thus we have over ten per cent of the whole number of prisoners held classed as sick men, who need the most assiduous and skilful attention; yet, in the essential matter of rations, they are receiving nothing but corn bread and sweet potatoes. Meat is no longer furnished to any class of our prisoners except to the few officers in Libby hospital, and all sick or well officers or privates are now furnished with a very poor article of corn bread in place of wheat bread, unsuitable diet for hospital patients prostrated with diarrhea, dysentery and fever, to say nothing of the balance of startling instances of individual suffering and horrid pictures of death from protracted sickness and semi-starvation we have had thrust upon our observation."
>"Libby takes in the captured Federals by scores, but lets none out; they are huddled up and jammed into every nook and corner; at the bathing troughs, around the cooking stoves, everywhere there is a wrangling, jostling crowd; at night the floor of every room they occupy in the building is covered, every square inch of it, by uneasy slumberers, lying side by side, and heel to head, as tightly packed as if the prison were a huge, improbable box of nocturnal sardines."

That last one is an account from a pro-Confederate newspaper by the way.

A successful mass escape involved tunneling through an abandoned section of the prison that was completely infested with rats.

>Major A. G. Hamilton, a leading founder of the escape party, pointed to the dilemma of the rats: "The only difficulties experienced [were lack of proper tools] and the unpleasant feature of having to hear hundreds of rats squeal all the time, while they ran over the diggers almost without a sign of fear."

The number of POWs who died in prison was pretty much even on both sides during the ACW, although the Confederate ones get looked at the harshest.

Why the fuck did you write this like you're writing some essay for sociology?

It's only occurring to me now, but it's incredibly obvious that Duncan isn't really that tall, unless he just has really long legs. His proportions are around the same as the guys around him.

You're actually right. Duncan was 6'5", Tom Hanks and David Morse (the actors portraying the two guards standing abreast to him) are 6'0" and 6'4" respectively. James Cromwell, who played the warden, is actually taller than Duncan at 6'7".

This is the most horrible thing I have read today.

>>highest degree of inmates with non-violent offences
Define "non violent".

Cause California considers and classifies sexual assault as "non violent"

>This is your brain on leftist propaganda
8.5% prisoners in the US are housed in private prisons. If you break it down further, only 6% of people are housed in private facilities on the state level (which is where the overwhelming majority of prisoners, and funding, go to).

The main private facilities are USBOP contracted facilities, which hold mostly white collar offenders.

This whole PEOPLE GOING TO PRIVATE PRISONS CAUSE OF AN OUNCE OF WEED stuff is absolute 100% bullshit spewed by leftists. Don't get me wrong I don't think corrections should be privatized, but it's not a national conspiracy by ebil corporations to throw people in prison for profit.

In fact private prisons as a whole only have $6-8 billion in profit a year, which is insanely low for government contractors.

>died
She was an Anglo, she was never truly alive.

This

If you want to find examples of entire industries colluding with the government to rip off the American people, look no further than the military and the higher education system.

>8.5% prisoners in the US are housed in private prisons.
That's still like 200 thousand people.

It's for protection. People join gangs in prison to be apart of something secure.

These. The AB began because established black and Mexican gangs in the California prison system were outright bullying white prisoners when prison got desegregated in the 1960s, so they had to organize and create a gang on their own. All those swastikas and shit aren't really ideological, they're basically just gang symbols like any other.

Prisons really are the one place in America that should remain racially segregated.

>you have to actively commit crime to be imprisoned
>you had the right to legal defense and counsel
>there is no comparison to your love-rival writing a letter to your boss, calling you a "wrecker", and then arresting you in the middle of the night, depriving you of food and sleep in an ice-cold cell, naked, beating you, and forcing you to sign a false confession
>you were not arrested because you attended university
>you were not arrested because your father was a priest
>you were not arrested because you were a Jew
>you are given three meals a day, and no forced-labor, let alone in -20f, for 14hrs a day

"Muh incarceration rates, muh incarceration rates!" Don't sell drugs, don't rape kids, don't act like a nigger.

Depending on the state, some of those don't hold true.

Louisiana, IIRC, has such shit funding for public defenders that a public defender tends to get about 5 minutes of prep time per case. Lots of states also rely on prison labor for a whole bunch of things, and often the labor is coordinated in such a way that it's definitely coerced (although obviously not gulag-level).

There's also issues with unlawful arrests and long pretrial detention. There's plenty of bullshit charges you can be arrested on (like resisting arrest), but ignoring all of those, we still have half a million people in prison who are awaiting trial. That itself is a symptom of a bunch of other problems (bail, public defenders, etc).

This

>Nazis are such cheap fucks that they spent money on guards, food, and clothes forcing slave labor to carry heavy stones rather than just building a conveyor belt or mining railway

Does South Vietnam's Strategic Hamlet Program count?

Sure

>fascism
>bad
>killing krauts and slavshits
>bad
>reddit spacing

>using paragraphs is reddit

Mau mau concentration camps.
>kill and torture at the very least 150k people
>after Nuremberg nonetheless
>destroy documentation
>sit on moral high horse
Britain in a nutshell

Hello r.eddit now gtfo

You forgot
>one of the highest recidivism rates in the world
which is probably the most important statistic

US criminal justice system is notoriously poor at rehabilitation, always has been.

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VERY PROGRESSIVE

I like how stormfags unironically idolize Man in the High Castle when the Nazis largely see Americans as borderline subhumans who are too numerous to be worth the effort of exterminating so they're relegated to the state of expendable slaves/conscripts or at best, second-class citizens in their own homeland instead.

That's complete bullshit and you know it. *Nglos were considered Aryans.

>Adolf Hitler personally declares Americans to be a "mongrel" and degenerate people
>thinking Nazi Germany would have extend Aryan status to a nation that they regarded as their ultimate foil in the long run

Madjenyank never existed, but it SHOULD have