Churchill was Britain's worst leader

Gallipoli was Hamilton's fault. He wasted too much time during the opening days of the battle and let the Turks seize the initiation. If he'd been more aggressive, he could have easily taken the high ground and pushed inland before the Turks could mount any substantive resistance.

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>what happened to legacy captcha REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>hurchill was the worst leader Britain ever had.
Pretty sure Lord North was worse because it was his policies that caused the American colonies to revolt.

Sure, a few of the more well known things.

>pushes through the development of the tank in WW1 giving the allies a significant advantage in the latter part of the war
pushes through modernization of the british fleet from coal to oil and the strategic seizure of african oil fields when realizing how critical oil supplies will be in future wars
>correctly anticipated that single-engine fighter planes would become the most valuable war machinery in the next stage of the war after France falls, streamlining production to the point the brits outproduced the krauts in fighter planes 3 to 1 during the battle of britain while the dumshit germans are still producing worthless heavy fighters
>fights tooth and nail against stalinism even when dying old roosevelt is naive enough to think Stalin would keep his promises if you gave him what he wanted
>made unpopular political decisions overruling military concerns because he saw sometimes the bigger picture is more important, like evacuating french troops from Dunkirk, attacking the French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir, reassuring the americans that britain would not sue for peace with Hitler
>ordered the bombing of Berlin to trigger HItler going full autismo and order the luftwaffe to switch away from strategic targets to cities instead
>postponing mainland invasion despite fierce protests of the soviets and americans until '44 so that troops and soldiers could get valuable experience in north africa and Italy, it has been argued that he okayed the disastrous Dieppe raid knowing it would fail because he was willing to sacrifice those men so the americans would back off their '42 invasion talk and avoid an even larger disaster
>was telling everyone that there was no way Hitler wasn't gonna plunge Europe into another war for like almost 10 years before it happened

Churchill fucked up as much as any politician will do but at the end of the day he got the job done. And his speeches were fine btw, they did their job.

It's also worth noting his choice of Templer for Malayan High Commissioner turned the Emergency around, he specifically look for a general who wouldn't just go full military on the situation

>pushes through the development of the tank in WW1 giving the allies a significant advantage in the latter part of the war

Germany was fucked from 1917 anyway. Granted tanks were of HUGE benefit in the 100 days offensive, but certainly not decisive to the war
>pushes through modernization of the british fleet from coal to oil and the strategic seizure of african oil fields when realizing how critical oil supplies will be in future wars
True
>>correctly anticipated that single-engine fighter planes would become the most valuable war machinery in the next stage of the war after France falls, streamlining production to the point the brits outproduced the krauts in fighter planes 3 to 1 during the battle of britain while the dumshit germans are still producing worthless heavy fighters
It's hardly as if Germany could've invaded Britain anyway. The battle of britain was a foregone conclusion.
>>fights tooth and nail against stalinism even when dying old roosevelt is naive enough to think Stalin would keep his promises if you gave him what he wanted
And retardly advocated Operation Unthinkable.
>>made unpopular political decisions overruling military concerns because he saw sometimes the bigger picture is more important, like evacuating french troops from Dunkirk, attacking the French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir, reassuring the americans that britain would not sue for peace with Hitler
Fair
>>ordered the bombing of Berlin to trigger HItler going full autismo and order the luftwaffe to switch away from strategic targets to cities instead
That wasn't intentional, but rather a response to the bombing of London.
>postponing mainland invasion despite fierce protests of the soviets and americans until '44
More of a what-if scenario. The allies had such a ridiculous advantage over the Germans in 44, it's hard to argue the situation would've been that different in 43, as well as the huge success they had Italy prior.

>was telling everyone that there was no way Hitler wasn't gonna plunge Europe into another war for like almost 10 years before it happened
This is true, in fairness, but his foreign policy was just incredibly hostile in general, I don't think that's because he was a great judge of character, but rather just because he wanted military force for Britain and France to keep dominating the continent.

Whilst you do bring up some good points on his foresight in regards to warfare, as well as his handling of malaya, it's hard to argue he was in anyway a net benefit for the UK, especially considering how disastrous his gold standard decision was, and his economic policies in general. It shouldn't be controversial to claim Churchill was a shitty peacetime leader.

...and that was the biggest fuckup in bong history, I'd put it beyond all of the Civil War insanity even, given the bongs foolishly pursued colonies on the other side of the world, following that fuckup, and that brought on the disasters starting less than a century later.

>fights tooth and nail against stalinism even when dying old roosevelt is naive enough to think Stalin would keep his promises if you gave him what he wanted
You what mate? It was that retard Churchill who signed the "dirty document" with Stalin. Lurk more, kid. You don't know very much it appears.

>germany was fucked anyway

Considering how many people died the last 6 months of the war alone, any new implementation of technology like that tank which hastened the end, is clearly a net gain.

>It's hardly as if Germany could've invaded Britain anyway.

We say that now with the benefit of hindsight, the Germans had just defeated the largest continental power in the world in a few weeks using tactics and technology like no one else could comprehend at the time. Had the Germans won the air war they would've been in a terrible position for the armistice negotiations, making decisive efforts to win the Battle and end up in a position of much greater strength was crucial.

>And retardly advocated Operation Unthinkable.

He didn't wish for that scenario to happen but he wanted to force Stalin to honor his word with regards to eastern europe and poland specifically, the reason the brits got into the war in the first place. Hardly a single General in the combined anglo/american forces backed Roosevelt on appeasement, nearly all backed Churchill's point of view.

>That wasn't intentional, but rather a response to the bombing of London.

Well if you're going to count the fuckups he did unintentionally, it's only fair to count the successes he did unintentionally. The difference is the germans fucked up and dropped on london, while the Brits did it officially sanctioned in bombing Berlin.

>More of a what-if scenario. The allies had such a ridiculous advantage over the Germans in 44, it's hard to argue the situation would've been that different in 43.

The landing at Anzio was nearly a complete catastrophe. Germany in 43, prior to the batlle of Kursk was still significantly stronger than in '44. Waiting made success more likely and cost the brits less lives, a net gain at the expense of the Soviet. Also, you cant really refute something by saing it's a what-if scenario, and make your counter-point another what-if scenario.

>pushes through modernization of the british fleet from coal to oil
Everybody did this around the turn of the century. This was no accomplishment, lad.

>believing the percentage agreement was significant

Which he then tried to reneg on when the conditions changed after securing Greece you brainlet.

Yet the government and Navy didn't really want to, not at the pace he did anyway, yet he spent political gravitas getting it through anyway.

Lord Palmerston

Pitt THE ELDER

Arhur Wellesley

I don't even need to know about his career, after years of seeing his pseudointellectual quotes plastered everywhere, you just know he's cancer.

While guys who were actually smart like Franklin get fake quotes made about them.

I consider Churchill the greatest man of the 20th century.

I can believe the bong military didn't want to go with oil fired boilers as they're mostly retarded, but the fact that they went the way everybody else did isn't an accomplishment, it's just a momentary lapse of the historical retardation.

Doesn't matter what did or didn't happen with any piece of parchment, brainlet. It's pointing out that the retard Churchill actually signed that piece of parchment with Stalin.

>has to be talked out of starting another pointless front in Yugoslavia
God I wish this happened. Gallipoli would be nothing compared to how angloshits and mutts would get slaughtered in Croatian crude coast terrain with ww2 weapons