Was WW1 a Pyrrhic victory for the French?

Was WW2 a pyrrhic victory for the Russians?

I think the gas probably that nobody can really pin down what it was about
Just an apocalyptic maelstrom of shells and trenches and knives all while dealing with air that kills you

the clash of the romanticized old world with the raw reality of the modern technical age.

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this.
shit's spooky.

It did spike. Massively actually. Bombers, mass deployment of tanks and other combat vehicles, semi-auto rifles, aircraft carriers, radar, etc all were huge parts of WW2. WWI was creepy because it was so strange and unknown, leading to all kinds of oddities and disasters and chaos. They had the industrial capacity for massive slaughter, but didn't learn how to use it or defend from it until WW2.

Plus, the majority of the fighting took place in conditions like pic related. Blasted hellscapes of mud, craters and death. Most of the non-urban fighting in WWII took place in relatively untouched countryside.

Yes, the bongs were a vassal state before Christmas 1915, but no, they never ruled the world.

Now, given they basically committed seppuku in August 1914, had they pursued peace at Christmas 1914, they might have had a chance to survive relatively unscathed, but they missed their final chance, and were on rations into the 1950's accordingly. But the diminishing was not sudden, and resulted from a long run of stupidity, well before 1914.

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yes

fuck off back to /pol

/pol/ isn't even pro-German anymore get with the times

It was a pyrrhic victory for almost everyone involved.
>Serbia lost a large portion of its population
>Poles gained their independence but hundreds of thousands of them laid dead and their country was in ruins
>Italians lost a million men with a lot more wounded for a small territorial gains
>Romania gained territory but lost hundreds of thousand of people and most of their oil industry in exchange
>Belgium was devastated and totally exploited by the German war machine throughout the entire war
>Great Britain lost hundreds of thousands and its status as a superpower
>France had most of their adult working population either killed or crippled

It is pro muh "diktat" and other forms of historical denial though.

>Romania gained territory but lost hundreds of thousand of people and most of their oil industry in exchange
They also lost the entirety of the state treasury due to the Bolsheviks. The kingdom's state treasury had been sent to Russia as protection against the German advance.

explain this mental abortion

For France, it was a terrible loss their last war we could say but it permited to fully establish the third republic . You have to recall that most of french were still royalist and without the WW1 the third republic would have been overthow . Add the fact that the republicanist ( left ) sabotaged the french army before the war ( affaires des fiches , affaires dreyfus , uniform outdated...) to kill the most french possible and fully anchor the republic . So for them it was a great victory but not for France

go back to /pol/ subhuman
No Kraut is my brother

Never post that terrible excuse for a "colorization" ever again

We are all humans brother

You stupid sack of human shit

It was the extinguishing of any lingering traces of romanticism from war. Previously the realm of small armies it was now a modern industrial enterprise. That plus the literal hellscapes it took place in. Literally nightmarish in a way no other war has been since. It destroyed more mens' minds than bodies.

>WE HELPED!

>Most of the french were royalist
[citation needed]

one of the worst wars to be in for the common soldiers
gas,trenchfoot,artillery,lices,rats,black death,black german and austrian snipers

America won an economic victory.

honestly lads ww1 is so depressing whenever I read about it I feel sad. an entire generation crippled by some stupid war no one knew how to fight

What

The Japanese and Americans were the only real victors, and that’s because both were spared from the vast majority of tragedies and the latter were war profiteers up until they dragged themselves into the war.

Uh, no, obviously the generation that fought ww2 numbered less due to the devestation of the generation that fought ww1 but this goes for germany aswell

>black german and austrian snipers

Why is a digit erased from the French casualties?

>[citation needed]
some day you need to start educating yourself, faggot

The most amazing thing is that France was even capable of entering WWII at all. They had two barn burner wars in such a short time frame. The Franco-Prussian War and then WW1. Every single generation in living memory had been tramatized by the Boches when they walked into WWII.
I'll never understand why the British thought France was an ally that could take another hit after how bad WW1 was on them. It just defies logic, France was utterly broken and the results showed in their performance, their entire command staff was tired old men from WW1 and Gamelin totally fucked them over.

kys

I never understood the posts where the put a * in it. Do they need to buy a vowel?

It did a reasonable amount to restore some of their pride after the disastrous war of 1870, but as others have rightly said, WW1 wasn't really a victory for anyone. Even the countries on the winning side were severely fucked from the end result. I suppose you could say it was a victory of anti-imperialists, but even then Britain was an empire until it fucked up with the Suez.

>one poster asks him for proof
>the other guy calls him a faggot and tells him to educate himself
never change french /pol/ack

What???
The French held, the Germans retreated and revolted against their own government.

French Republic is victorious, German Reich utterly defeated.

It's a trope of germano-freaks that they didn't lose WWI.
But it's a lie.

Yes but Germany still had a few million more than France in Popluation so they were still less war exhausted than France was.

France "won" a Pyrrhic victory but lost the peace extremely badly.

But Canada didn’t gain anything from the war.

Others have said it but I#ll just add to the obvious pile. The old order of Empires and Royal/Imperial Houses died in that war. The Ottomans, gone. The Habsburgs, gone. Romanovs, gone. The Hohenzollerns, gone.
While the German Empire collapsed but bounced back as a Republic under Hitler (when it comes to Military power) the rest never did. Granted that's if you don't see the USSR as Russia's continuation.

youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48

This. The bongs were retarded.

> The Dreyfuss affair was a republican plot to undermine the country

Wait, what?

Are you honestly retarded enough to side with the reactionaries in that affair?

In a way, yes, when you consider WW2.
French suffered such terrifying loses and so many French soldiers fought at Verdun meat-grinder (due to rotation) that a sort of ''pacifism'' developed, which compounded with political divisions and demographic issues made French extremely reluctant to fight another war.
This basically meant that Nazism in Germany consolidated its power without much hindrance, and combined with little evolution in military thinking (on account of being victors of WW1), it spelled French doom in 1940.