Is commodification the best form of censorship?

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cool meme image, but it still doesnt change the fact that critical theory was a neo-marxist idea born out of the frankfrut school. This is all just the logical conclussion of marxism to expand the class conflict into the race, gender, cis, tranny, ect conflict.

>produces alternatives that people would want
>doesn't take away alternatives that other people may want
As long as they're profitable.

youtube.com/watch?v=D8-yGo4z7pU

Reminder

Not him, but woldn't still be better to make it class? The middle class is disappearing with more people becoming lower class every year, and the upper class is getting more powerful at the same time. I find this race/gender/anti-science/LBQT whatever letters they have now/etc conflict to distract the real problem and divide the people. Call me a retard, but I believe this shit is being pushed by the rich to divide the middle and lower class. They can keep racking in millions a month, while the middle class disappears into the lower, and all the poor motherfuckers are distracted by this stupid crap.

>The middle class is disappearing with more people becoming lower class every year, and the upper class is getting more powerful at the same time
no

Sounds like a bunch of spooks to me.

An unsourced projection is not an argument.

>It's not us guys, it's the capitalists who are decadent

ehh, the whole argument against the class hierarchy is that the bourgeoisie class leech of the labour of the proletarian class, how the hell is any of this applicable to race, gender, orientation

>but I believe this shit is being pushed by the rich to divide the middle and lower class.
it isnt, its being pushed by neo-marxist academics. Marxism made sense in western europe in the 1800s when most people were working class in factories with horrible conditions and next to no pay, but by the 1920s, that all mostly changed for the better. And by the post war years, it became outright irrelevent. Because of this, they had to expand their appeal to all people since the working class appeal didnt work out for them. And once again, that appeal to say blacks facing racism made a lot of sense in the 1960s, but it doesnt really make that much sense today.

Although I would agree with you that if Marx saw this, he would hate it. that meme of stalin looking down on the SJW going "wtf?!?!" is pretty accurate

brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/global_20170228_global-middle-class.pdf

literally
>source: My Ass

its all about "liberating the oppressed" in their eyes. Its really just marxism dying out and then trying to rebrand itself to stay relevant.

i don't need to refute a claim that is made without any evidence in the first place. in fact, it's common knowledge that the opposite is true. however as you can see here tl:dr
>There were about 3.2 billion people in the middle class at the end of 2016, 500 million more than I had previously estimated. This implies that in two to three years there might be a tipping point where a majority of the world’s population, for the first time ever, will live in middle-class or rich households.
>The rate of increase of the middle class, in absolute numbers, is approaching its all-time peak. Already, about 140 million are joining the middle class annually and this number could rise to 170 million in five years’ time.
>At a growth of about 4 percent in real terms, the middle-class market is growing faster than global GDP growth, but not as fast as it did in the 1960s and 1970s, the boom years for the middle class

Gookmoot should ban amerimutts from Veeky Forums

>REEE STOP QUESTIONING MY UNFOUNDED NEO-MARXIST DOGMA!!!
no

>liberalist think tank funded by Bill Gates, JPMorgan Chase, ex-Goldman Sachs chairman, some billionaire who went to the Chicago school when it was shitting out Friedman-bots, and fucking Qatar
Yeah I think their projections are legit and based on real developments instead of wishful thinking.

>NICE ((((SOURCES)))) YOU FUCKING KIKE SHILL!

This is what you sound like user

tbqh I don't really get the point. Are you saying the capitalist pig is "censoring" something by "drowning" it through financing even more critical art?

>the concept of opression originated from marxism
imagine being this much of a brainlet

Marxism is all reorganizing the process of production, if an ideology doesn't deal with this, it's not marxism, period.

middle class is shrinking because more of them are becoming richer
forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/06/21/sure-the-middle-class-is-shrinking-30-of-americans-are-too-rich-to-be-middle-class-now/#25e8ed2b21c8

I never said that. You really do need to calm down and come to terms with the reality that all SJW that has completely infected and dominated the left is out of neo-marxist ideals.

I would assume the pig is dumbing it down into a parody of it's own self, basically compare rock, hip-hop etc. nowadays to back when it started out.

but mainstream shit doesn't get top ratings from these hipster sites.

One isn't exclusive to the other.

What makes you think capitalists can't adopt marxist ideas, especially if they fit globalist agendas?

You'd be surprised.

>seriously implying that the russian revolution wasn't a farcical repeat of the french revolution

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You do realize societies used to have racially based slave classes. Marx sent Lincoln a letter congratulating him on his election and abolitionist agenda.

>One isn't exclusive to the other.
the point is that this SJW shit objectively has its roots in neo marxism, and whenever leftypol tries to blame it all on capitalism, or neo-liberals, or liberals, or whatever else, its very obviously blame deflection.

"Neo-marxism" doesn't mean anything. You're either a Marxist or you aren't, and Marx was against identity politics.

>guys, capitalism doesn't commodify other ideas or concept for gain! It doesn't work like that! You see, all the SJW stuff was originally a neo-marxist concept, modern popculture and entertainment just adopted it for gain!

Now that's a stellar argument.

not an argument

>muh antidote about marx proves that none of this is my sides fault!
you guys do this shit a lot, where you claim cultural marxism cant be because one time marx whistled wagner or some other completely irrelevant trivia. Neo-Marxism does mean something, as it has completely taken over traditional marxism in every conceivable way. the thing is that you know this, but are choosing not to see it. I want you to go to some left wing marxist get together and tell everyone how fundamentally stupid SJW shit is, how retarded and needless third wave feminism is, how transexual advocacy is a giant facre and anti-science and see what sort of response you get.

>all the SJW stuff was originally a neo-marxist concept
it is and none of you have been able to prove otherwise. Critical Theory is directly responsible for all of this, and you all advocate for SJW shit anyway. The only thing is that you have overplayed your hand, have become annoying assholes, and now, SJW are a despised joke movement, so you are desperately trying to distance yourself from it.

>I want you to go to some left wing marxist get together and
Irrelevant. Those fags are "marxists" like neo-pagans are pagans. By which I mean, they have nothing to do with the former except for taking up the same name and some of the symbols.

>Neo-Marxism does mean something, as it has completely taken over traditional marxism in every conceivable way.
Only in capitalist countries. In poor countries, there are actually traditional Marxists left, and they outnumber the western SJWs.

>Irrelevant.
no user, you miss the point. You cant place the blame for this on the capitalist boogeyman when even you yourself admit that marxist circles are completely and utterly infested with it. We both know what would happen if you actually said that stuff to them.

>Only in capitalist countries.
you need to read up on the frankfurt school. They werent insider communist. They evolved outside the USSR, and were actually critical of it. Even the third worlder types you mention are infected with this antifa shit. You are being reactionary. How are disputes over industrial work in the late 1800s of western society relevant anymore?

Well yeah no, it's not responsible. Any idiot can come up with a stupid idea. Spreading it worldwide because it's marketable, with no regard to the harm it causes is a whole different thing.

>every study i dont like is biased, paid for, and dishonest!!

>every study i like is fair, balanced, transparent and rigorous

using this argument and not attacking the substance of the report automatically tells me you're too stupid to read it

They seem to be speaking of stagnation/widening inequality in developed countries, not the growth of the middle class on a global level.

>Any idiot can come up with a stupid idea
yeah, and those idiots were marxist, who spread those idea, and now, pretty much all left wingers follow it. Again, you arent putting forth any argument otherwise. Critical Theory is a neo-marxist idea user. deal with it.

>cultural marxists ignore marxisms core aspect, the economy

I-its totally marxism guys. Marxuse was a CIA agent? Oh haha just disregard that. Truth is the capitalists pretty much found the ultimate weapon against workers movements, turning it into faggotry with the help of a few pseudo communist academicucks.

Reminder that over 90% of artists identify as Marxists/socialists/commies

90% of trannies identify as the opposite gender of their physiology.

source?

neat, still doesnt change the fact that SJW evolved out of critical theory, which was a concept that marxist philosophers derived from the writings of marx.

Early/middle capitalism is good for workers. It's late capitalism that's a problem. The world isn't really in late capitalism with so many developing countries.

I don't have any idea what you or this image is trying to say.
It's like you've gone so far down an ideological rabbithole, that you don't even see anything mad at all amongst the jabberwockies and the hatters you've surrounded yourself with.

Right, however marx literally said himself that changing capitalism from within is impossible and that it will be capitalism that changes you, hence the need for a revolution.

Also, the frankfurt school were CIA agents, thats also a nice little fact nobody can change.

>still doesnt change the fact that SJW evolved out of critical theory
Alright, then from now on we'll stop calling birds, bird. Instead we'll call them neo-reptiles, and then blame the dinosaurs for the shit that they take on our cars.

>marx said
what part of NEO(new) Marxism do you not quite understand user?

>he frankfurt school were CIA agents
no they werent. The CIA did not even exist when the Frankfurt School (really just part of the Institute for Social Research founded by marxist Felix Weil) was first formed in 1923.

you realize you are wrong and desperately reaching and grasping for straws instead of facing the hard reality that this is the end conclusion of marxism and NOT the evil capitalist.

yeah, youre done. F

Evola is right in his own way.
If only there were some sort of third path. A way to believe in the common transcendent dream of a people united by their common bonds to get them to work together in common interest, while still recognizing and accepting the natural hierarchies of production and niche that arise through market processes and pareto distribution. hmmmm.

>source: me
lmao

>the end of marxism has nothing to do with the actual economy itself and goes against the core principles of marxism.

What part of "they left out core marxist beliefs" dont you understand you mongoloid? Go on, write neo marxism 10 more times, it really doesnt change a thing about my statement.

Herbert Marcuse did in fact work for the OSS and after the war for the CIA. Its a well established fact.

>it really doesnt change a thing about my statement.
youre statements are just pouty whiney shit. youre just angry at me for destorying your attempt to blame your movements faults on those of your detractors.
>Herbert Marcuse did in fact work for the OSS
good job moving the goalpost after yet another one of your lies and excuses was called out. And btw, I keep repeating neo-marxism because you are really stubborn and this is the only way I can educate you, by beating you over the head with it. I do the same with stormfags btw.

Still doesnt change the fact that they ognored the core aspect of marxism. Go on, I think this thread can take a few more neo marxisms.

What goalposts? You conviniently left out the CIA part in your greentext. Besides, the OSS was the predecessor of the CIA. But here, Ill repeat it again for you. It is a fact that he worked for the CIA after WW2 and for OSS during WW2.

>hurr durr doing things that aren't censorship is censorship therefore censorship is actually okay

No him, but do you really believe this shit? You can blame progressivism instead of marxism if it makes you more confortable, but the truth is all this identity politics horseshit came from socialist and generally anti-capitalsit circles.

The funniest thing to me is that socialists tend to blame liberalism for everything when both are progressive movements. For your views to be fully consistent you'd be promoting some ultrareactionary monarchist or teocratic agenda.

>Still doesnt change the fact that they ognored the core aspect of marxism.
they didnt. Every single memeber of the frankfurt school knew more about marxism and were better read on it than you are user. What you are doing is basically saying that ISIS arent real muslims and misuse the teachings of islam.

>What goalposts?
when you claimed that the frankfurt school were CIA agents (lol) then had to move the goalpost to saying Herbert Marcuse, 1 guy, was in the OSS during WW2. This is you desperately searching for an out to not accept the truth of the situation that this is all marxists doing

>how the hell is any of this applicable to race, gender, orientation
Because marxists like Adorno and Gramsci figured out that Marx's "inevitable rise of the proletariat" wasn't happening because the proletariat was too attached to things like nationalism, religion and family to become class conscious and behaved against (what they percieved) their own class interests by aiding the elite in their world wars and accepting capitalism.

The idea was that the only way to achieve a truly classless society was to destroy these traditional identities.

That makes it better, not worse. Why would I resent someone from getting stuff they want, if they are offering something for trade?

This is partially correct for Gramsci and incorrect for Adorno.

Neomarxism doesnt exist. Its just regular liberal bullshit.
Also read a book faggot.

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>marx say: no identity politics
>minority faggot goes to the street with a bombastic autistic sign
>somehow this retard's autism is Marxism's fault

>Neomarxism doesnt exist

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>neomarxism
D O E S N T E X I S T
>lberalism
^ this is what you are talking about.

>literally mixing every ideology under the sun and calling it neomarxism
Wew lad; your retard is showing.
Hell you even snuck in the fucking furries lol.

>china's general standard of living starts to overlap with low middle class standards
>"capitalism works"

Post the "the economist" analysis of how incomes have progressed. There are big winners and losers of this decade; and you are ignoring them.

Who the fuck are you talking about?

>"Sounds like your sources are biased; please find other better sources; which shouldnt be a problem if what you are saying is true"
>reeeeeeeeeeee
That is how you sound faggot.

>Marx creates ideology
>Ideology appeals only to retards
>Retards fill the ranks of Marxists
>Somehow Marxism is totally not retarded you guiz

>>neomarxism
>D O E S N T E X I S T
it does exist. youre just really mad and really stupid and cant handle the fact that all of this shit is the fault of marxist

1989 happened for a reason, and it wasn't due to "democracy," but rather "wage rates."

Its is a well know fact that the "postmodern" trends of art are literally marketizing of ideas carried out by professionals; with little real focus on meaning; sense or actual work.
Actual trends of aestheticity and a return to beauty are systematically ignored because it sells much more to smear shit on a canvas. Or make furry porn.

this

btfo

I know, those stupid kike jdif shills think they can brainwash me but it wont work!

Old commie
Young liberal
Different things.

Again you fucking nigger; neomarxism doesnt exist; its a made up term.

>trust me mr marxist; i know more about marxism than you
dunning-kruger in effect

>confusing antifa with anarchistic groups and revolutionary organizations
Can you even be more american?

>still doesnt post another source and deflects with whataboutism
A classic.

Neo-Marxism has a meaning in international relations and in socilogy, but a bit different than you might think. It´s a term for methods and frameworks, it doesn´t refer to a coherent ideology.

You niggers just wont understand.
Neo-marxism doesnt exist. Its classical liberal stupidity.

So what?
Also source?