Nationalism probably killed way more people than before, with the sole exception of some Chinese conflicts. It killed more than when Europe were just the affairs of the aristocratic elites in the West. Neither did it arise from the Enlightenment, as it had risen from some braindead Romanticism and the early modern equivalent of wewuzism that is called primordialism. Yet, it just took advantage of the state apparatus the Enlightenment had produced, except without the dictum of Reason behind it. Nationalism substitutes Reason with the mystifying notion of Authentic Culture and fleeting feelings towards the vagueness of it, that is susceptible to change according to whatever whims of their fanatic poets (among other factors).
How did then Europe, at the heights of its civilization, produce such barbarity? Where erroneous customs are sometimes even fetishized and celebrated, despite being fundamentally irrational?
Liam Ross
>this thread again
Matthew Lee
Good post
Jackson Bailey
>more population density >more deaths in conflics Look what the thirty year war did. None of the world was compares to the sheer amount of dying in the supply viscinity of armies per capita.
Caleb Hernandez
Nationalism was invented by Napoleon.
Grayson Rivera
In what sense?
Easton Sullivan
In every sense.
Carson Morales
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say the French Revolution created Nationalism, and Napolean's successes permeanently solidified Nationalism as a sociological fuxture in Europe for the next Century?
Owen Morgan
Was it nationalism OR imperialism that plunge Europe into a state of total destruction?
Brandon Russell
The fuck are you on about, nationalism killed a couple of million at most in the past two centuries, and that's being generous Compare that to socialism which has killed over 180 million in the last century alone
Jeremiah Richardson
>The "socialist" regimens weren't nationalistic.
Daniel Fisher
>nationalism You mean human nature, its human nature for a massive tribe to form a state that serves only their purpose. Globalism is nothing more planetary nationalism you fucking shill.
Kevin Moore
>Le human nature argument
Landon Sullivan
Neither, it was capitalism and communism.
Elijah Foster
Most ethnic-based states only emerged in the 19th century.
Bentley Ward
Every fucking country in history was an ethnic state formed by an immense tribe.
Eli Gonzalez
No.
Isaac Martin
I'd like to point you to Austria Hungary in the past and almost every nation in the American continent now.
Daniel Sanders
The only nationalistic socialist regime was Nazi Germany, and even they didn't kill that many people with the exception of the war of self-defense against Russia
Christopher Johnson
aka their common denominator: materialism
Lincoln Nguyen
>Have natural in-group preference >build society around in-group preference Why is this wrong?
John Diaz
Who is the flag bearer for great Britain supposed to be? I see him in a lot of anti british propaganda posters.
Justin Watson
John Bull
Carter Gutierrez
Because you can't conquer other peoples without opressing/genociding/secondclassing them like you could in feudal times.
In a world without wars there would be nothing wrong with nationalism, but we don't live in such a world.
