Who was the better commander?

Who was the better commander?

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Alexander's empire collapse immediately after he died. He didn't know how to manage his empire. He just wanted to conquer more and more lands.

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Alexander.

Seleucus I Nicator

Commander?
Alex

Hard to manage anything when you're dead.

Both were puppets of the Jews.

left: conquered the world
right: conquered some ooga boogas and kangz

>why didn't this dead fucker do a better job of managing things

Are you guys stupid? What he's saying is that he should have focused on managing his empire instead of looking for more lands.

What exactly does that have to do with the thread? OP is asking who's the better commander.

And he was getting to that as he died.

It's not like he died after a long life of nothing but conquests. Caesar lived more than two decades longer than Alexander.

Alexander was perhaps the bravest king to ever live, he is the prototypical “warrior king” that every king after would be compared to. Are you leading your heavy cavalry at the literal point of the wedge in every single battle? Alexander did. Are you charging directly at the enemy king through thousands of awestruck soldiers and making him flee the battlefield in the face of your absolute lack of fear? Alexander did that. Are you the first guy to charge across a river UPHILL into an enemy that is waiting for you on the other side? Alexander did that. Have you ever been the first motherfucker up the ladder in a siege as the motherfucking king and basically shame your entire army into following you? Alexander did that. Have you ever charged alone into fucking elephants when your entire army is on the verge of breaking and once again shaming them into attackinf and eventually winning the battle? Alexander did. that. shit.
Caesar was the better commander Tyron a strategic and logistical perspective but Alexander was the bravest king to ever walk the earth and risked himself more than any soldier in his army, you have to imagine the absolutely insane amount of respect his men had for him, if there were stats on a real battlefield then the presence of Alexander would add a “no fear” bonus that makes them impossible to rout, and if Alexander falls then all your troops go into a bloodlust, become unbreakable and charge to their king without any care for their own lives whatsoever.
Alexander inspired more bravery and fearlessness than Caesar could ever hope for being a more traditional battle commander. Being in a cohort is one thing, leading the wedge of a cavalry charge in over 30 fucking battles and surviving every single time is the stuff of legends and it’s no wonder people legitimately believed he was the son of Zeus.

>my ancestor :)

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good god roman hairstyles were fucking awful

>conquered 1000 little tribes of gaulniggers

or

>conquering the largest empire of the ancient world in pretty much 3 battles

you tell me

This

>"gaulniggers"
>A single man waging a private war with a handful of legions against a massive coalition formed among an advanced warrior society that inspired much of the arms and armor of the Romans, with a sophisticated degree of military organization.
>"largest empire of the ancient world"
>Launching a panhellenic crusade and using tactics and weaponry your daddy designed that was pretty much playing with fucking cheat codes in the ancient world against an empire beset by regional/sectarian unrest and dissatisfaction with the ruling class with literal nigger tier troops who for the most part were wearing pajamas and wielding wicker shields

Yeah I'll tell you, it was Caesar

>conquered Iran
>somehow praised as an epic warrior for that

Yeah honestly this. Despite the massive numbers advantage the majority of the Persian army was vastly inferior in terms of training, discipline, and equipment. This is why after Guagamela the rest of Alexander's time in Persia consisted of squabbling with measly hill tribes and bandits.

He actually put himself at risk in those battles, of all the companions Alexander himself was the craziest and most daring, half his troops would be on the verge of running away until they saw Alexander charging in and leading by example, it’s a different kind of leadership than Caesar’s. Admirable and a unique and dangerous way to tackle the issue of slow command structure during hectic battles. You don’t need to tell your cavalry what to do when they’re literally just following whatever you do, Alexander was a fucking badass and there’s no denying it, Caesar had the benefit of a more professional army that was easier to command and had much more independent middle ranks. Alexander had to literally shame his troops into charging by putting himself at more risk than anyone else, many of these battles simply would not have been won if Philip had been leading that army instead of Alexander. Philip lead the phalanx and always gave the cavalry to a sub commander, which was Alexander himself when he was old enough. Alexander led his army from the cavalry, which is a totally different hierarchy and puts the king at much greater risk at the benefit of having a much more decisive and organic cavalry. Alexander’s secret was that he was fearless and he inspired fearlessness in his men, if you take him out of the equation I don’t see some random subcommander finding that gap at gaugamela or sieging tyre or any of the absolutely insane shit he did during his campaign. Alexander was the best warrior king ever, Caesar was potentially a strategic and tactical mastermind but he was not a warrior king, Alexander is quite literally a mythical figure in his own category of leader, no king in history would even come close to the personal danger that Alexander put himself in as a fucking King ffs

What you described, charging in headlong and rallying troops on the brink of a route, is literally what Caesar did at his most notable victory at Alesia.

>conquering a bunch of sheep shaggers

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>conquering the people who created the largest empire at the time

Hmmm

He was definitly the greatest Slav that ever lived

He did it once, Alexander did it over 30 times in every single battle. Also being at the tip of a wedge formation is far more dangerous than being on foot in a cohort

the generals infighting afterwards isn't something he could have prevented is it?

Choosing better generals I suppose

So what you're saying is that Leeroy Jenkins is the greatest general of the modern world?

Julius Caesar was certainly at the forefront of battle more than once in his lifetime. Keep in mind he was a lot older than Alexander during his exploits, naturally meaning he wouldn't be as physically capable as Alexander who was groomed from childhood to be a soldier first and foremost. Regardless you're absolutely right about Alexander's M.O. being the brave charge into the fray that wins the battle, but this shit often got him into a lot of trouble and he was constantly wounded and nearly killed. I want to say this occurred in India along the Gagnes but in one instance he hopped the walls of a fortification and, alone, was surrounded and his men desperate to help him followed suit.

Even when he got wounded or in a bad situation the net result of these actions was always that his men go into a bloodlust and end up winning the battle as a result. It’s the purest form of leading by example, and every time they thought he died they pushed themselves beyond instinctual limitations and gave their lives to the cause after seeing their King so the same. Sure it’s dangerous and potentially stupid but it’s also extremely effective. Caesar only went into danger when his army was in danger of breaking, Alexander was always going into danger by default; caesar’s bravest exploit is Tuesday for Alexander, that’s the caliber of man we’re talking about.