This is going to sound really stupid, because it is. I know very little history about England beyond what I read on here which is obviously biased because it's either frenchman shitpost or englishman shitpost.
I see in History that England was invaded by vikings, invaded by celts, invaded by french, invaded by Dutch. Well, not always invasions but mass influx of those people especially for rulers.
Is English really English in the sense that the people from there make up the country or are the best of England a combination of all those others who invaded? People say post-norman britain is the best britain which suggests to me that England and France are obviously linked in that way.
But, again, I know very little so would love to learn.
Go back far enough and you can question any cultural identity in this way.
Jose Perez
I just get confused though, because when English people talk about themselves as though they are inherant different to everyone else when really it looks like most of the best of their leaders and times come as a result of someone else coming and taking over. This really doesn't seem right, though.
Camden Murphy
You almost had me going with the OP but you came on too hard now. Is there a reason Frogs are choosing to shit up Veeky Forums of all places?
Alexander Lewis
I'm not trying to shit it up. I don't see Normans as proper french really but that's probably bias from me. I'm just genuinely curious about the makeup of England. I have an english friend who says scottish royalty ended up on the throne because the english ones died out but that seems like a fucking lie too.
I maybe not explain it as well as I could, I don't mean english are shit and their foreign inavders are better but rather is England really as linked to france and all that as these people will make out or are they just angry that englan dbeat them?
Ian Harris
You know how when you mix yellow and blue together it makes green? It's kinda like that.
Also the Normans don't matter after the Angevins took over from them.
Lincoln Jones
People are mostly welsh, but also partially german. The Romans left little to no genetic make up of the average englishman, same goes for the Norse and the Normans. In answer to your question: yes englishness exists and are a mixture of the homogenus welsh and the german invaders.
So you say that England IS a mix of both native and foreign men/makeup but rather than "england is just france" or "england is just a better dutch" it's more that a unique people came from a result of these conquerings, and those are who british consider themselves to be?
