2 months into SS

>people still fall for it

What's your goal? Becoming athletic, building balanced muscle for aesthetics or just be able to squat 4 plates and look like shit?

Depending on your goals you should choose your programming.

Yeah that's not the program. Just a brief intro article. Read the actual book or just do some more fucking research online.

You were meant to run accessories like dips, chin ups, & hyperextensions from week 4, to prevent exactly what has happened to you. You fucked up.

None of which needs to be considered or makes fuck all difference while still in the noob lifting progression.

Once you get to intermediate progression on the weights sure then specialise. SS if done correctly with the accessories from week 4 will produce pretty much the exact same results as every other BEGINNER routine.

These routines are only meant to be run for about 6 months before doing proper lifting routines depending on your area of specialisation ffs, yet Veeky Forums continually fucks even this up. This is the worst lifting community on the internet. Even Misc are less retarded. This is /r/fitness levels of fail.

My goal eventually is to look good, however being strong should also be part of that. The only lifts I really enjoy are deadlifts and overhead press. Deadlifts because I can see the importance of being able to lift heavy things off the floor, and same for over head press (even though it's really a bitch to progress on, but when I do I get really happy, and it happens, just at a much slower pace).

I will read the chapter on accessory lifts, even though to be honest with squats, deadlifts and bench press/ohp on the same day, I feel too exhausted to do anything at the end of my workout. But If I have to, I will.

>didn't read the book
>blames the program

youtube.com/watch?v=rTaDksFBwLM

is good to listen to

being a phd student my sleep schedule is fucked, and I can't enough. Fortunately I am getting the keys to my new place tomorrow which is located 5 minutes from work and gym, so I ll have better control over that.

>6-12months
Far too long. 6 months of basic SS progression will take you to 215kg (ish) on a lift, if you started with the bar.

May be possible for the deadlift but the squat and bench are out unless you're genetically destined to be strong as fuck.

For those that did SS or SL or GSLP, how many months did it carry you for, and when did your newbie gains run out?

How many pullups do you do? Double them.

took me 6 months to run out but then again i did some sports before that so that might be why

is newbie gains a meme
are the first 6-12 months some magical time period of potential that could be missed if not done correctly or is it just referring to an area of strength that people usually get to before more serious routines are required?

>2 months in
>has visible progress
>complaining

most noobs don't get any visible progress at all (unless they start taking creatine)

What were your before as after, after 6mo?

I have completed 6 weeks of GSLP. In eating well, pic related.

Bench 130 to 175
Press 75 to 120
DL 185 to 265
Squat 95 to 155 (technique difficulties)
Row 95 to 135

I generally double increments because I can. I'm 6'2, 215, 25% bf. Weight has not changed in the last six weeks.

Pretty happy so far, but in feeling I'm going to need to go to standard increments soon.

No but the time frame is a meme.

It's simply the first 5-10kg (or whatever the case may be) of muscle mass your body gains and holds up easily.

It doesn't matter if you completely fuck around the first 1-2 years in the gain and gain absolutely nothing. If you start training seriously and have proper nutrition on your 3rd year, you can still make your fast "newbie gains".

started as 5'8 at 154 (around 71 kg 10-12% bf)

first workout finish weight (everything is 3x5)
>squat 50 kg
>bench 55
>deadlift 60
>ohp 30
>bw chinups
>bw dips

after around 6.5 months and stalling for the 3rd time (around 77 kg) (3x5 for everything but deadlift)
>squat 145
>bench 92.5
>deadlift 172.5 (1x5)
>ohp 65
>chinups 30
>dips 40

like i said, i did some sports before that and also fucked around with bw exercises so i wasn't exactly weak, just never lifted weights.

most of the progress was done when i didn't do anything but sleep for 10 hours, eat and workout. once i started working again the difference in recovery was like night and day.

You're doing the recommended weighted pull-ups, chin-ups, dips, and pushing hard for BP and OHP right OP?

pretty much this, although 6 months is already a bit on the high end imo

Question for SS fags. I'm not doing the program, but figure you know the lifts.

I finally switched from Planet Fitness to a real gym, so I'm finally incorporating deadlifts into my routine. My plan was to start light with lmao1pl8 to build good form while increasing the weight each workout. Today was day 1. I could've lifted more, but even so I was sweating like a monster. Is this normal?

Also, I've read deadlifting is great for glutes and hamstrings, but I primarily felt it in my lower back. No pain or discomfort, just more activation. No noticeable activation in the hamstrings. Normal?

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It has nothing to do with time and there is no way to "miss out" on newb gains. Its based on the fact that gaining muscle has diminishing returns, the first year of training will gain you more muscle than the second, and the second will gain you more than the third and so on and so on assuming you maintain the same training efficiency.

sweating: yes
no hamstring: shit execution

Could it not just be an issue with only lifting lmao1pl8 to start? I set up each to to ensure my back was straight, bar over middle of feet, and sat back into it, flexing the glutes as I came up. Could you be more specific?

I give up trying to help people who do """""Starting Strength""""" but don't actually do it

read the book or bust

you're currently trying to make your own version of starting strength and it will do you no good whatsoever, on the contrary it might even hinder your progress

if you're doing the progress as it's intended to, that is

How much should someone be lifting before they move on?

you should feel your hamstrings be activated before you even pull. if you don't you are not engaging them. basically, your entire body should be tight and your hamstrings should be loaded and ready to explode.

try doing standing pike to see how it should feel. assuming you aren't as flexible to do this easily, you should feel it in your hamstrings. this is how they should feel just before you explode up from the starting position.

everyone will be lifting different amount. once you stalled at least 2 times and can no longer progress every workout you are done with SS and you should move to a weekly progression program like texas method (just an example, there are better ones out there).

Yes it makes a difference. A beginner can lift 6-7 days a week. If you do some low volume 3x per week meme program like SS, you'll not only develop imbalances but also progress more slowly.

@everyone shilling SS here, post your bodies please, I could use a laugh. Inb4 squatting n plates.

If you don't seem something after your first 2 weeks of lifting you're doing something wrong, if you see no results after 2 months you should see a doctor.

Oh look, another guy who can't be bothered to spend $10 on the Starting Strength e-book (Kindle/Amazon).

More than half of the volume for Starting Strength ends up being upper body:

Bench/Press + Chin-ups + half of the deadlift/power clean

Don'tcha know, StartingSTRENGTH is the only way to achieve a non-strength goal

>If you're skinnyfat/fat just do SS while on cut
>then do PPL or Allpro on a bulk after getting lean
Simple