Fascism

Mad aesthetics

rank them

Because it was an alternative to liberalism and communism which incorporated more traditionalism than the other two.

Austrian > Strasserist > Fascism > falangism > hitlerism

though desu i'd qualify Italian Fascism as authoritarian and not totalitarian

how was it next?

Hitlerist National Socialism is National Capitalism

Austrofascism > Italian Fascism > Falangism > shit > Hitlerism and Strasserism

From best to good
>Falangism
>Fascism
>Austro-Fascism
>National Socialism
>Strasserism

>national socialism not dead last
Objectively the worst system.

Most of what has been posted already, with one important addition: a lot of returning veterans were very fucking angry with what they came back to. It's not hard to see why the veterans felt their opinions mattered more than those of coddled, infantile people with no experience of life at its 'realest'.
Also, of course, you had the Jungers of the world, far more than you'd think, who were fucking loving the war by the time it ended.
This is something unappreciated now. Most people assume that all the men who fought hated the trenches and the war, that it broke nationalism in Europe, etc., when it seems to me that this is a retrospective projection.

TL;DR introduce barbarism to millions, get hundreds of thousands of Conans.

>implying Strasserism is better

>hitler
>national capitalism
*tips millions on welfare*

I may need to look into austrofascism now

Fart > Shart > Shit >Diarrhea > Colon Cancer

spoiler alert: It lasted for about 1 year

I'm sure someone as butthurt as you has extensive experience with all of these.

Communism was still less of a failure than fascism in the long run.

One left Germany in a ditch. The other would have created a Central European/Eastern European Power Bloc to resist Anglo-American hegemony.

by what standards?
communism has higher death count
also next to no produciton of wealth. slav countires are still piss poor while Japan and Germany are raking in the dough

DAMN

Japan and Germany were steamrolled by liberal and communist countries. Also China will overtake the US as the world's pre eminent economic power within the next few decades.

you are making a wild guess, there is always someone to chimp out

>communism has higher death count
no it doesnt. the numbers are highly contested
also equally important is that fascists killed a huge amount of people in a shorter span than 75 years of communism.

Modern China is communist only in name

>implying a workers state can't incorporate elements of state capitalism
>implying China is ruled by a bourgeois class

It's government rules due to a workers and peasants revolution which makes it a "workers state" albeit a deformed one which tries to coexist with international capitalism

I fucked up my previous post but if you are denying that China is a booming capitalist market you are lost my man.I don't hate them anyway.

Yeah, because nazis killed the leader of the state.

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>mao sends his entire population to work on steel instead of farming
>2 years later they all starve
>45 million dead
yeah this is highly contested

It's part of the international market but overall the countries resources and infrastructure are owned publicly, not by a capitalist class. This disqualifies it from the label capitalist or even state capitalist which implies it's owned by a bourgeois class.

also 45/6 = 7.5
mao is personally responsible for 7.5x the amount of deaths than Hitler
4.5x if you count gypsys and faggots

>raking in the dough

I guess user meant some other standards

strasserism>fascism>austrofascism>>>falangism>national socialism

t.socdem

Strasserism is a form of National Socialism you brainlets.

Strasserism contains the socialism aspect, while the national socialism of hitler did not. Strasser was pretty open about his affiliation with the left.

Where is Peronism?

nobody cares about your shitty dictatorship you mexican subhuman. Let the westerners talk.

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>2 countries go fascist
>hurr why was fascism so popular

It was pretty big during the early 20th century up to the end of WW2. Lots of movements in every Western countries.

Kek

>early 20th century
you mean 1919 onward
>up to the end of WW2.
so 20 years or less?

What was
>Spain
>Austria
>Romania
then you turbo faggot

>2

So you're willing to attribute the most inflated death tolls to communists but hitler is only responsible for 6 million deaths? Hitler is responsible for at least 40 million deaths.

million dead
where are you pulling this number from? on wikipedia even only 15 to 30 million are dead. still a shit ton of people, but caused unintentionally because of poor coordination, bureaucratic secrecy and over eagerness and self delusion. hitler intentionally killed millions and millions of germans died to carry his sadistic vision out.

"But for an ephemeral semblance in an epic containing the births and sunderings of gods, the dust settled and the numberless shattered pieces of that great calamity ceased their cacaphony. In that instant lay the foundation of all life. Expiated as they were, there was nothing left to do but to witness in silence, and what a time it was to witness! So beautiful it was for the mind to digest the basis of an eternal era. Order over disorder; that holy visage of a universe finally conquered.Lo' the braying returned.
It did not end.
It did not end.
It did not end."

>Japan and Germany were steamrolled by liberal and communist countries
>Implying this is relevant to ideology
>Also China will overtake the US as the world's pre eminent economic power within the next few decades.
>Implying China is communist

WW1 vets came back from the war fucked in the head and wanted to change the world.

First they turned to socialism but then most turned to fascism.

The original fascism with il Duce was the only good form of fascism. Everyone else was a retarded poser reactionary.

How the fuck does that contradict what I said? Protip: Strasser brothers never called their ideology "Strasserism". They called it - you guessed it - NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

Strasserism > Falangism > Fascism > Hitlerism > AustroFascism

>Internationalist communism was a failure
>after WW1

Jesus Christ, bro, crack a book.
Internationalist Communism had never even been attempted. The USSR wasn't even formed until 1922.

Falangism = Fascism > Austrio Fascism > SNS > NS

Because man tuns horribly irrational when he thinks he has nothing to lose.

Will it ever recover?

Austrofascism was a retarded idea
Over ninety percent of Austrians wanted unification since 1918 until they were forbidden, there was nothing holding up that state when Hitler came into power

Look at the liberal movements and republics set up during the 19th century. A shift right was only expected for Central Europe.

You are Wrong as fuck. Natsoc is not national capitalist and its not palingenetic, Falangism is anti-clerical but christian and is not racialist

who cares what austroniggers thought? fascism is just as much an elitist movement as it was populist. all it took was a leader to make the austrians see how good they really had it as a sovereign nation under strong catholic principles. of course historically it was a fuck up but joining the 3rd reich did not IN THE LEAST solve austrian problems. In fact, Nazis tried to destroy austrian identity by erasing its historical borders. Not to mention the Nazis plundered their gold reserves entirely for their own war economy.

>there was nothing holding up that state when Hitler came into power
on the contrary, the austrians remained independent for about 6 years until hitler made any moves, and that was only because the geopolitical balance of power changed rapidly and Mussolini decided to yield its sphere of influence to Hitler. Austria's fate was entirely tied to this fact. Hitler might well have wanted to take Austria (even though in 1938 he actually intended to keep austria seperately and simply get elected as president as a step toward eventual unification) but it was the negligence of the other Great Powers that doomed Austria, not any inherent pangerman sentiment, which played little part except serve as an excuse for Hitler to justify his actions.

fascism =/= national socialism

nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

tl;dr formerly well-off and proud middle class men felt humiliated and emasculated by defeat in WW1 and the poverty of the great depression, so they latched on to an ideology that promised revenge against their enemies, prosperity at home and glory in battle.

>Spain
>fascist

>poor as shit
>communism constantly trying to overthrow your fucking government
>monarchist sentiments but forced into liberal policies because of the upheavals
>already nationalist as fuck
>saves from the humiliation of WWI
>didn't like the jews anyway

take your pic

The economies of Europe were desimated after ww1. The axis countries were hit the most because
>Germany had to pay shit ton of reparations to France
>Italy and Germany didn't have big daddy arms dealer Dmerica to help build them up

In italy, the ruling class of Bourgeois was falling apart. Capitalism in itself was dissolving. In it's place, Socialists and Communists began to organize to take power. The Bourgeois were in no place to resist the leftists. However, the petite bourgeois (minor land owners) organized and supported right wing militias which hunted down and killed union demonstrators and the military wing of leftist parties. These petite bourgeois are what brought the fascists into power.
Fascism wasn't really that popular in Italy. In fact, Communism was the preferred direction. After ww2, the Communists were polled to easily win the Italian elections. The US didn't like this though, so they used their international secret police, the CIA, to spread propoganda and convince the Pope to announce that all Communist Catholics would be excommunicated.

Germany was a bit different. The major left wing force in Germany was the Spartacus league who lead a failed revolution against the capitalist Weimar republic. The communists didn't play ball in elections very much, so after the defeat of the Communists in the uprising the Nationalist party and the Nazi party were able to dominate the congress through support from the petite bourgeois. One day, the Weimar burned down. Hitler blamed it on the Communists and used that as an excuse to take full power.

Spain was an outright civil war between anarcocommunists in the eastern cities and fascists in the west. Franco won because he had Hitler on his side, and Stalin stopped sending supplies to the anarcocommunists because of the nonaggresion pact.

It was militant in nature. After the World War, the military was seen as prestigious.

And when exactly did fascism start to gain traction again?

>Germany was a bit different. The major left wing force in Germany was the Spartacus league who lead a failed revolution against the capitalist Weimar republic.

I would say that SPD was left-leaning too, just not radical like DKP. On top of that, DKP didn't have THAT much support, even back in 1919-1920.

The only fascist country to have ever existed was italy

Germany is weird. Even the monarchists were for a welfare state. Germans love their communal statism.

At exactly the same time, you fucktard.
They were competing ideologies. For the record, the USSR lasted 5 times longer than any fascist state, so guess which one failed harder?

It has always been

That's my point you retard. I'm not defending fascism. Fascism is a reactionary ideology versus (usually) communism so including communism in the equation is entirely valid. And both the bolshevik revolution and the German communist revolt happened RIGHT after WWI.

>my entire understanding of interwar Europe is derived from a pamphlet Leon Trotsky wrote from the US

Really activates my almonds.