The roman empire

>the roman empire

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They were in pretty steep decline by then.

Please don't bully Byzantium

Rome was a beautiful empire. Then Constantine had to be a nigger.

This

Constantine made the empire more beautiful by building Constantinople

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>Roman empire
>don't control Rome

Manzikert makes me unironically ree.
The fucking successor of the Roman empire being replaced with goatfucking Turkish tribes because of a feigned retreat and a family feud

>empire can be overthrown by basically anyone and if the Senators/Praetorians in Rome and/or the generals accept him, he's the new legitimate successor to Augustus
>also if a German or Turk does the exact same thing all the other emperors did than they're not real emperors lol
what did Byzaboos mean by this

>successor of Roman Empire

lol
also 1 Turk worths 200000 fake Romans (Byzantines)

So the Roman Empire ended in 751 in your opinion?

All the emperors from Augustus to Constantine XI lived, served, and ruled in the same state. The HRE and Ottoman empire were both different states who claimed to be the Roman Emperor

>successor of the Roman empire
It was not the "successor" it *was* the Roman Empire

no it wasnt. it was the Eastern Roman Empire, which was the successor to the singular Roman Empire after it was divided in two

one of the two successors*

R*man """"""""""civilization""""""""" everyone

It was never "divided in 2" it was just 2 administrative divisions of one empire. Complete continuity.

>the leading institutions of Rome proclaim a German guy Emperor of the Romans
>the leading institutions of Constantinople proclaim a Turkish guy Caesar of the Roman Empire
>this doesn't count because there wasn't a continuity of state, but Odoacer's continuity of state doesn't count
what a mess

Odoacer abolished the empire in the west, and proclaimed himself "king of Italy" that' why his state doesn't count.

I've gone so far

>Byzaboo delusions

It did though brainlet, look up Justinian

Cry harder Mehmed

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Wouldn't that make it only 50% Rome then?

lmao """roman"""""""""""empire""""""""""" everyone

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look at OP's map retard

Adrian Goldsworthy calls it a lesser successor.

>Some nobody says something wrong

>a renowned rome historian is some nobody

No matter how renowned he may be, he's still wrong on that

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barbarians not welcome

What is it about some people that has them personally invested in how 'long' and how 'continuous' a political entity was.

They treat it as a personal affront on their sacred honor if ________ ended on X date instead of Y.

Will Durant even went as far as called Byzantine Greek empire in his book

Manzikert was a disaster thanks to Byzantine infighting, not because muh KARA BOGA BLACK TURKISH COCK