If this were an alternate timeline where the United States of America were to turn fascist and eventually ended up seizing control of Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Iceland, and the United Kingdom. What would life within this one continent empire be like and what would it mean for degenerate trannies such as myself both back then and modern day?
I would imagine that I would be either A) shipped off to some concentration camp where they would eradicate my infection once and for all, B) send me to a psych ward where I would either face savage treatment that would lead to my death or my inevitable suicide from being within an American insane asylum, or C) killed on the spot.
I initially asked /int/ this without realizing that this board existed even though I knew of its existence. What would happen to such a degenerate like me in the new Free American Empire?
>If this were an alternate timeline where the United States of America were to turn fascist Would never happen due to America's ultraindividualist values. >And ended up seizing control of Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Iceland, and Britbongistan They would likely be treated in a similar way as Nazi Germany's colonial gains during WWII. The regular citizens would most likely not be executed if they do not go against the state because it's the path of least resistance. >What would happen to trannies like me? You could try to hide/repress it though that might be difficult when the government has access to all psychological and physical health information. Gender dysphoria is almost incurable without transitioning so the most likely result would be C.
Landon Ramirez
You'd be shot as per traditional American custom.
Jackson Cruz
I thought America where the forties just locked up everybody in insane asylums and subjected to electroshock therapy? And didn't gender dysphoria not exist as a diagnosis and neither did the previous gender identity disorder? OP would have most likely been diagnosed as a homosexual which back then was considered a mental illness/disorder where the treatment was electro-shock therapy.
Grayson Young
i got hard just imagining this. My god I want this to happen so badly
Josiah Moore
How did fascism start becoming such a manly system of government? It's really the most emasculating system because it requires you to submit to the state and more specifically one particular leader. This literally means you are their property and their little bitch. Why do people get behind this system without realizing how big a cuck it makes them?
Dylan Murphy
Please just stop with this autism
Aiden Rodriguez
>Surgically turning your penis into an open wound cures gender dysphoria I'm sure that's why suicide rates are higher for post-op than pre-op
Jayden Carter
>I don't understand fascism: The Post
William Clark
>Gender dysphoria is almost incurable without transitioning so the most likely result would be C. Literally just taking anti-psychotics is better than "transitioning," look at their suicide rates. They get it done, realize that it didn't change anything but remove their lifelong companion downstairs, and regret it forever.
Jason Carter
Fascism isn't inherently discriminatory. Just cause Hitler did it doesn't mean America would.
Jacob Sanders
>If this were an alternate timeline stopped reading there seriously this alternate timeline bullshit should be bannable and expelled to /x/ or whatever
Ryan Jenkins
>alt-history please kill yourself autist
Mason Lee
That’s the thing it’s not a cure, they don’t call it one they call it a treatment it’s just appeasement
Thomas Long
>How did fascism start becoming such a manly system of government? It's really the most emasculating system because it requires you to submit to the state and more specifically one particular leader. This literally means you are their property and their little bitch. Why do people get behind this system without realizing how big a cuck it makes them? Probably the symbolism and ideals of the movement, and a tendancy to be a very militaristic ideology. If you look up Nazi war propoganda for instance you will see Strong Men either working or fighting as hard as they can. Perhaps this mass resurgance of Fascism is a reaction to modern day democratic ideas such as "Freedom" or "Equality"
Carter Long
[citations needed]
Christian Cruz
You know this very much happened in reality due to alternate universes. Learn how quantum mechanics work, plebs.
Austin Turner
I wasn't aware there were psychiatrists on Veeky Forums.
William Foster
>If this were an alternate timeline where the United States of America were to turn fascist and eventually ended up seizing control of Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Iceland, and the United Kingdom. This is such an unlikely scenario that the answer to your question is "whatever you want them to do to you", because at this point it's basically just your personal fantasy and not grounded in any semblance of reality or possibility.
Jaxson Sanchez
Just join the American equivlant of the Sturmabteilung and you'll be to as much of a flaming faggot as you want (at least until the Leader decides to side with the Army instead and has you purged).
Luke Martinez
let's have spiderman and batman threads because they can be real in alternate universes XDDD
Ethan Lopez
>If this were an alternate timeline where the United States of America were to turn fascist and eventually ended up seizing control of Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Iceland, and the United Kingdom
but the usa already controls those countries in our timeline + half the entire world
Justin Young
Can you prove that the universes we create here don't actually exist within the panels of a comic book?
Easton Jones
Someone has been watching the Fascist America video series by Drew Durnill, haven't they?
That guy is a pretty good strategist and it makes me question if he were actually leading the soldiers during such a time if such a global empire couldn't have existed.
Luke Baker
Someone on /tv/ already greentext the plot for Anne Frank x Magneto if that counts
James Howard
>tfw our timeline is just a Yankee LARP comic book written in another universe where the USA stayed east of the Appalachians and never became more relevant than Belgium
Benjamin Russell
Now why would they write us Donald J. Trump becoming president? Is this for the additional drama that it would receive?
Ian Gomez
not even close to fascist and this post is retarded
Evan Phillips
I've never heard these statistics but I'm open to hear it. I never claimed that sex reassignment surgery was a cure, it really is just a treatment.
Juan Gonzalez
This is the only acceptable answer.
Landon Thompson
That user is either A) someone who is insecure about themselves potentially being a tranny since only those who are closeted care about looking this shit up or B) some /pol/ retard like OP who came here to start a conversation about burning faggots.
Nathan Clark
>United Kingdom Nobody in the United States wants that shithole of an Island or wants it to become a territory. If we are taking over Mexico its going to be a purge of everyone in it because Mexico is a shithole that needs to be restarted from the ground up.
Charles Martinez
>colonial gains during WWII That was rightful German land. With a majority Ethnically German population that had been taken from them in the treaty of Versailles. What the hell do they teach you kids in school?
Owen Baker
>United States of America were to turn fascist and eventually ended up seizing control of Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Iceland, and the United Kingdom. How would this even be possible? For one the UK has nukes so invasion would just be suicide, furthermore this would draw in America's enemies like China and Russia resulting in mutually assured destruction
Blake Lopez
From the official philosopher of the Fascist party: >Gentile, rather than believing the private to be swallowed synthetically within the public as Marx would have it in his objective dialectic, believed that public and private were a priori identified with each other in an active and subjective dialectic: one could not be subsumed fully into the other as they already are beforehand the same. In such a manner each is the other after their own fashion and from their respective, relative, and reciprocal, position. Yet both constitute the state itself and neither are free from it, nothing ever being truly free from it, the state (as in Hegel) existing as an eternal condition and not an objective, abstract collection of atomistic values and facts of the particulars about what is positively governing the people at any given time.
It had been written by total Yankee patriots in the early years, but now it's written partly by blue-haired self-hating fags and by bald Yankees who think it's all gone downhill, and want to mirror that in the comic.
Michael Fisher
But you'd still be a mutt, and so would your compatriots.
Kayden Jones
Isn’t that a Slavic ethnic nationalist symbol?
David Parker
Fascism is a system in which different groups set aside their differences and live in semi-isolation. I like to think the black and white southern populations would be relocated so that proper ethno states could be established, of coarse all of these states would have to bow to the greater American empire (an entity similar to the British empire in its administration) so little conflict would occur
Isaac Thomas
no, that's the Black sun, what you're thinking of is the Kolovrat, which has straighter and less numerous spokes
Julian Robinson
>America's ultraindividualist values and yet Mexican-American war happened. Canada is already corporately owned by America, and an American vassal state. basically the only we haven't annexed them is that there's no reason to, but if something fucky starts happening(Canada reorienting itself towards China or such) the US will become more overt. I think the chances of the US annexing Mexico are decently high as well, depending on how militaristic the future is and how powerful the US remains. UK, Greenland and Iceland are pure fancy though.
>You're /pol/ for addressing the person who brought up sex change surgeries as a cure for mental illness in the first place >If you point out that mutilating genitals in order to appease mental delusion is wrong, you must secretly be mentally ill yourself I'm just going to assume this was an ironic post, because nobody is this unironically stupid.
>/int/ trying to call people /pol/ on Veeky Forums So that's where you idiots keep coming from. This is a whig board, take your retarded leftism elsewhere fag.
Xavier Lopez
>This is a whig board Veeky Forums is a monarchist board, you nut.
Gabriel Hughes
No, Veeky Forums is a whig board. If you want monarchism you can go to /pol/ or Veeky Forums, which tend to swing more your way.
Kevin Sanders
The whigs were left wing, you faggot. Also, I think you misquoted me.
>That was rightful German land Dude Alsace Lorraine, Austria and Sudetenland were the only ones even close to rightful German. >The Reich Commissariats being German.
Nathan Walker
Your interview does nothing to invalidate the data its gathered. The researcher merely concludes that since society 'bullies' these people after they willingly mutilate their bodies beyond recognition, it is society's fault. It's a pretty ludicrous attempt at apologetics.And your papers don't have anything to say about suicide rates, they're about self-reported quality of life. These people can claim till the cows come home that their lives have improved, but the suicide rates tell a different story.
Parker Gutierrez
Alt-his could fall under humanities as any good one will look at the societal impact/causes of the scenario
Luke Richardson
Alsace-Lorraine was French land, Austria was the rightful clay of the Austrian Emperor, and the Sudetenland, if anything, was Czech land.
Carter Wood
Not him, but it is so abundantly clear that you did not read the sources and are more interested in pushing your narrative.
Jeremiah Bailey
>Gender dysphoria is almost incurable without transitioning >transgender suicide rate before and after transition is 47% Mfw sick people are dying due to PC politics Mfw caring about this and pointing it out somehow makes me a biggot
Austin Roberts
Did you fucking read them? What did I say that is wrong? The irony in the post is astounding, where do you get off.
Jaxon Taylor
I'm the first guy who responded to you
>Your interview does nothing to invalidate the data its gathered What data was gathered user? That pre-op rates were lower than post-op? Did you know that the control group was made up of the general population, with none of them having gender dysphoria? Did you also know that this paper covers treatment done in the 70s-80s? This paper covers the issue that surgery is not THE cure to gender dysphoria but a good treatment that needs improvement in care afterwards to prevent suicide and harm. The rates for transgender suicide are high, and that is a fact, but I did not see any sort of number about the pre-op vs post-op and anything that discredits surgery as treatment in your posts, please give me something exact and source it.
Jordan Thompson
I've already spent 9 years fiddling with an alternate reality where the US and many allied states are neo-fascist
>1961 French coup in Algeria succeeds at first but their colonialist state falls in a French Civil by the 1970s. Survivors exile themselves to Madagascar and form "rival" right-wing French state >The Gang of 4 emerge victorious in the post-mao power struggle in China. Deng Xiaoping and Hua Guofeng are executed and Mao's nephew Mao Yuanxin takes control. China stays a north-korea tier isolationist state and never opens up >1991 August coup against Gorbachev in USSR succeeds >Group of angry Russian ultra-nationalists hijack a sub and nuke Boston with a nuclear torpedo before its sunk by a combined US-Soviet fleet >Aftermath causes far-right to swell in US that has a radicalized William Buckley Jr. come to power who absorbs the neo-con movement >UN puts sanctions on US >Small civil war breaks out in US that sees fascists win >US becomes expansionist state that absorbs most of the Western Hemisphere through invasion, proxy coups, or intimidation. >UK, Italy, Japan, Finland, Romania, South Korea, etc. fall to similar movements >Germany becomes Fascist again but is hardcore neo-nazi and a rival to US in influence >South Africa stays apartheid, Rhodesia reestablished >Israel goes full apartheid and forms apartheid tripartite pact with South Africa, Rhodesia, and Madagascar France >USSR still exists but is plagued by Civil War that has pro-German Baltic States become independent as Yugoslav-style confederacy >Milosevic wins Yugoslav civil war and forms greater serbia >Turkey, France, Sweden, Brazil, and other UN states are the main counterbalance to the US & Soviet blocs
I have profiles of countries all the way down to Guinea-Bissau and Nauru.
I'm pretty autistic
Jaxon Reed
OP is thinking of National Socialism, Fascism and Falangism are different than that.
Gabriel Hernandez
I'm curious on how Peru wasn't occupied by Greater America or the U.N., I'm assuming they they didn't follow Chile and Paraguay nor join the U.N. How well is that nation doing between two powers?
Nathaniel James
Well it certainly means no jews meaning its heaven on earth.
Hudson Reyes
Peru was still under the control of the Fujimori dynasty who went full blown dictator but had socialists overthrow him
They've reconciled with the US a bit but hate Chile (which is still under the Pinochet regime, albeit a new guy obviously)
Alexander James
>its a what if alternate history scenario
Evan King
There is nothing wrong with imagine what could have been. It's what drives history forward and allows for those to learn from the past to better improve the future. We learn from our failures so we could create a better world. This is what we need to do if we're going to gas the trannies.
Adam King
>What would happen to such a degenerate like me in the new Free American Empire? Give it a few years and you will find out
Oliver Richardson
What does this mean?
Nicholas Sanchez
Because trannies are the worse enemy the world has to face. Forget Islam or the Islamic State. We have to make sure these vile trannies are removed from the world.
Dylan Cox
I think the dude on photo was one of those that were purged during Night of Long Knives
Landon Wright
Was that when they killed the homosexuals among their ranks?
Logan Lewis
It was an open secret that Ernst Rohm was homosexual. However Hitler tolerated that for the most part, because Ernst was an important planner. His purge mostly had to do with Rohm's increasing influence of the party.
Landon Carter
He was later executed for being homosexual, right?
Was there some speculation that Hitler might have had homosexual tendencies himself or was that merely leftist Jewish propaganda?
Gavin Gomez
There was a long open secret about homosexuals in the army stemming back to at least the previous Kaiser. More practically, he had been around too long and knew too many party secrets. Hitler agonized over whether Rohm would be purged or not, since he had been a companion during the Struggle Period. But Rohm had used the SA to threaten the army, and that wouldn't do for Hitler's long term plans, nevermind its souring relations with the SS, which had since its earliest days been conceived as a true elite. Therefore, Himmler and others created false information of a putsch involving him directly. It did as they had intended and scared the Fuhrer into action, though it is likely that he only needed the barest nudge.
Lincoln Jenkins
>He was later executed for being homosexual, right?
No. Did you read the last part of that post? His was executed for more pragmatic reasons. For propaganda purposes it was because he was a gay.
Josiah Martinez
Hitler's sexuality will be a mystery for ages to come
Cameron Roberts
Seriously, was there anything Hitler couldn't do?
Owen Sanders
>If American cans became fascists they would invade Canada and Mexico, not fo hyper isolationist and dominate other countries economically >Every fascist country and ideology is Hitler's Germany Why are there so many alternative history fags obsessed with the Nazis and Confederacy, is there some YouTube channel I'm unaware of?
Blake Flores
>False accusations Is there any proof of this? As far as I'm aware he was purged because of his relationship with the Strasserists
Hunter Thomas
>Why are there so many alternative history fags obsessed with the Nazis and Confederacy
They are both very important but short-lived nations with very important consequences that fell in a very dramatic fashion (war). A match made in heaven for alternative history people.
Logan Martin
And nether of them took shit from degenerates or trannies. IF we had their outlook today the world would be a much better place for our future generations.
Wyatt Ramirez
I guess they should have won then, eh? You don't get to bitch from the losers bracket. That's why they were labeled losers. They lost. History is decided by the victor. That's all there is to it.
Brayden Stewart
>and the United Kingdom How?
Grayson Adams
>It would be hard to conquer Britain They don't even arm their police lmao
Andrew Garcia
Pre-WW2, the Royal Navy still was the largest in the world. It's doubtful that the US could pull it off without a powerful continental ally
Dylan Smith
You mean like nazi Germany, fascist spain, and fascist Italy?
Liam Walker
>powerful ally >fascist Spain and fascist Italy lol
Nolan Thomas
Well, obviously if the war in Europe happens the same as it did in OTL, then the US joining the Axis would be the death blow to the allies.
Nicholas Mitchell
>Near complete control of the Mediteraenan through Spain (now not neutral) and Italy >Not a big deal Lel
Oliver Perry
few people are alphas but the fascist state wants the men to be strong and be seen as strong so it appeals to the majority betas