5 min rests between sets in SS

>5 min rests between sets in SS

Wtf am i supposed to stay in the fucking gym all day long? How the hell am i supposed to add some isolation exercises to this routine.

Can i just rest between 2 or 3 min or will i collapse on the next rep?

train legs meanwhile

Would smash / 10

There is no set in stone rest period length. Rest as long as you need to in order to complete every rep of every set. This goes for SS, and all pure strength training. I do Texas Method as a crappy powerlifter and I will seriously rest more than 10 minutes between the last few sets on volume day because 5x5 with 470 lbs is goddamn hard.

If you're doing something for conditioning, or accessories with the main goal of size increase (which you shouldn't be doing on SS, or as a beginner period), limiting rest in between sets of whatever you're doing can be a good idea.

And don't fucking add accessories to SS. Squats, bench press, OHP, deadlifts, power cleans, and chin ups are all you do. It works best that way, and Rip has never said ANYWHERE that one SHOULD add stupid bullshit to it.

>And don't fucking add accessories to SS. Squats, bench press, OHP, deadlifts, power cleans, and chin ups are all you do. It works best that way, and Rip has never said ANYWHERE that one SHOULD add stupid bullshit to it.

What if the guy doesn't want fridge mode?

Why does he have a 70 page section of "useful assistance exercises" in the book?

In the beginning you can get away with 2-3 mins, but sooner or later you're gonna start to take longer rests, whether you like it or not. This is for squat by the way, on bench, OHP, rows/cleans you don't need 5 mins.

Because it's a book about strength training, not just the program.

Why is he doing a powerlifting program designed by a fat redneck then?

Checkmate Atheists.

Confine all your SS questions to one thread faggot

This shits starting to get a little too close to comments fat chicks say

>I don't wanna lift heavy because I don't wanna get too big

People do SS for beginner gains and for a short period of time. If someone becomes a fridge it's because they were destined to look like a fridge when they put on fat. You won't accidently gain 40 pounds of pure muscle on SS that forms into a rectangle.

If you're putting up less than 1/2/3/4, you shouldn't be taking 5-minute rests. Any more than 45 seconds is wasted time at such a beginner stage.

Did you even read the book?

>45 seconds
what the fuck are you trolling about nigga?

Rippetoad specifically states on his forum that you should be taking up to 5 min between sets when necessary.

Do you have any thoughts on doing SS on a deficit? I've been doing it for past 9 weeks and aches and pains are killing me. Should I switch to weekly progression?

When necessary doesn't mean when you're still that weak.

When necessary means whenever you wouldn't make the required reps otherwise. Idiot. It doesn't matter if you need 10 minutes because you're weak, because you've underslept or because you're repping 405 across. If you need 10 minutes you take 10 minutes. KYS.

Personally I like to do other exercises while I'm resting on my main lifts. I'll do lateral raises while resting for bench, OHP while resting for squats. Usually don't do anything while resting for deadlifts cause they tire me out.

>If you're putting up less than 1/2/3/4, you shouldn't be taking 5-minute rests

post body

>powerlifting program
Please don't

i know that feel. my rest times for squat and ohp are already up to 7 min

He specifically says that those are exercises that might prove useful LATER, when the trainee is past the novice stage.

What? It is.

He can't. His rest periods are only 45 seconds.

"non"

Stop embarrassing yourself, user.

5min resting is a meme. I used to rest up to 8 minutes because I thought it might help me get the 5 reps for the next set. Wrong. Just rest 2-3 min. The difference in restored ATP is so minimal, it's not enough to make you fail a rep if you wouldn't have gotten it anyway.

>what is general strength
It's supposed to give you a base which will help in any sport and will be the foundation if you want to move on to oly lifting or powerlifting, which will require different routines. Alternatively, you can stick with the general strength approach.

Nice counter-argument, faggots.

Why would you train for strength if your only goal is aesthetics?

So that you can lift heavier weights to get bigger muscles...

You don't need to lift heavy to get big, you just need volume.

Mark Rippetoe's words himself: "Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general."

If all you care about is aesthetics, by all means, there are other approaches to get big. For a beginner having a linear way to progress with very few key movements that train the whole body is very useful though. A strength base is very useful regardless of whether you're trying to get aesthetic or strong.

>Mark Rippetoe's words

He's a fat loser, who never achieved anything of note, nor that he ever train anyone successful. Why would you ever listen to him?

There he goes again

Prove me wrong, dyel.

If you really care about it, I'd read one of his books or look at his channel or listen to one of his podcasts. He knows a lot when it comes to biomechanics and training. He's a former powerlifter, now strength coach who used to train people in olympic lifting, so it's not like he or any of his athletes could swoop any medals that way.

kek

>tfw no gf like op's pic

>He knows a lot when it comes to biomechanics and training.

Then why hasn't he or any of his trainees achieved anything worth talking about? He didn't even invent SS, he just cannibalized Reg Park's routine.

>Then why hasn't he or any of his trainees achieved anything worth talking about?
Multiple reasons imo. General strength doesn't have a sport. He's too adamant in sticking to his base program and doesn't allow his athletes to change it up to fit individual differences and there's probably more. Doesn't change the fact that his advice is good.
>He didn't even invent SS, he just cannibalized Reg Park's routine.
You're actually right, but did reg parks write a book to describe how to do all the movements correctly? Didn't think so.

He was a mediocre powerlifter that trained under a mediocre coach - Bill Starr. The original idea behind Starr's approach was to bring back the strength levels of his football players after the summer vacation. Starting Strength was a success when it came out in 2004 because we had spent the late 90's doing splits, DC training and Pavel's stuff. We had some hypertrophy, we knew how to do the movements and the program peaked our strength levels. Nowadays I see kids with stick arms asking questions such as "Why is my OHP/bench stuck." and receiving absolutely inane answers such as "Eat more" or "Sleep more." while failing to address the obvious problem - the lack of muscle on the trainee.

If he wanted to build "general strength" he would have done a conjugate program which is focused on building that general strength. SS is a squat-specialisation routine. For athletes that want to gain weight - WS4SB.

very long rest periods and gomad are the worst of Rippetoe's suggestions. I wouldn't go beyond 3 and only that much after you've already reset once and you're trying to push it.

Keeping rest periods limited is how you avoid bad powerlifter stereotypes of having no cardio and no hypertrophy.

Look man, I think SS sucks but if you are going to do the program, at least do it as intended. You will be squatting some heavy ass weights so take your time. Yes, I think it's bad, yes you won't gain hypertrophy that way, yes it will fuck you up in the long rung but it's the program.

You're kind of right, but the only reason its a problem is because spergs do the routine for way too long.

If you take a skinnfat skelly and throw him on a bodybuilding routine, he's not going to be able to move enough weight over the course of the volume to get jack or shit out of it.

If you throw him on a quick ~4 month dirty bulk and hit something like starting strength (only with some assistance work for god sakes. (Dumbell bench, dumbell rows, curls, and skullcrushers would be ideal since they hit the neglected areas without throwing much extra intensity)

By the end, his legs, back, and delts should have some legitimate size increase and more importantly he's going to be baseline strong enough to do a higher volume routine with more than just the bar.

I don't care if it's the program man. I'm not trying to be Veeky Forums snarky or anything, but I've been lifting a long while, am pretty strong, and actually have experience with sports.

3 minutes is still a long rest period, it's in fact longer than anything other than competitive powerlifters are ever going to use.

If you intend to care at all about cardio, hypertrophy, and a well rounded system, 5 minute rest periods is as bad of an idea as GOMAD for anyone but an absolute skelly trying to make a highschool football team.

if you think you don't need to rest for 5 minutes, then don't

I guarantee there will come a point when you're gonna fail if you don't.

Can't you do calf raises? Do it without barbells and then work your way up to Metro Man tier calves.

>spergs do the routine for way too long
That has been the biggest problem with this shit. You do it until it stops working, you don't "milk the linear gains" for fuck's sake.

>skinnyfats
They should cut if they are after aesthetics. Yeah, they will look like a twig but it's better than having stick arms with a belly and love handles.

>accessory work on SS
No. It's a sucky program but at least do it the way it is intended to be done.

I think that rank beginners can handle a lot more volume because they can recover faster. If I were to design a training program for someone new, it would be a 6-month upper body specialisation focused on rack pulls, rows, benches and side delt work as the primary exercises plus a buttload of assistance work built around them.

You and I know it sucks and we can agree that it sucks but SS is not a "well rounded system" and it never was - it's a crash course in squatting that hinges on the trainee being able to make rapid progress on the squat.

I swear to fuck, everything you say sounds like you're alex from alphadestiny.

>t. never actually set foot in a gym

What're your lifts?

Short rest periods have no effect on hypertrophy.

SS IS A FUCKING MISTAKE.

stop trolling

> How the hell am i supposed to add some isolation exercises to this routine.

>Can i just rest between 2 or 3 min

Either do the routine or don't. If you want to fuck around with it, do something else.

I've watched some of his stuff and it's nothing new desu. Partial reps for lifts have been used since the dawn of time to help lifters learn the technique and put on muscle. I think a lot of the old stuff has been forgotten or pushed aside with the advent of raw lifting for some reason.

"Conjugate" (I use that term VERY loosely) was how we used to train back in the day. We used to rotate our assistance and sometimes even our main lifts when they got stuck. DC preaches this and the brotastic term "muscle confusion" is what we stuck with. Conjugate training was developed by the USSR to prepare young weightlifters i.e. to develop a base of general strength before heavy specialisation in the clean and jerk and snatch. Old Soviet lifting manuals were stuffed to the brim with GPP. Heck, Sheiko's programs for new lifters are nothing but variation and sports to ingrain technique, build muscle and develop mobility/flexibility.

If you train in a gym in Eastern Europe these beliefs are still carried out by the old guard who preach high volume, VERY strict form on the main lifts and an encouragement for the younger guys to do sports. Heck, 13-15 year olds are sent to do calisthenics and go play football/basketball.

Beginners can train and should train more. You can hardly overtrain when your squat is below 100kg. Lots of sets of 3s, 4s with sufficient weight is the way to go. The assistance is there to help out with muscle mass.

GOMAD is intended only for skinny underage twinks

>5 min rests between sets in SS

Work in sets for other exercises in between

Who is this semen demon?

>back in the day. We used to
How old are you?

>You won't get bigger by being able to do more volume over time and progressively overloading muscles
I bet you do a bodypart split.