Russia

Russia is not 3rd world.

European Russia is 1st world.

Russia is by definition second-world.

t. Russkie in denial

Nice try samefag. Russia is 2nd world. It's a paradise compared to true shitholes in Africa, Middle East etc.

What a shitty map, specifically the coloring chosen.

Gradient can either go

R>O>Y>G>B>V

or R>G

not thing R>G>Y>V>B shit.

gorbachov and Yeltsin did it

the economy relied on communism for so long that it collapsed when gorbachev stepped down

germany and the UK's unemployment rates are 3.7 and 4.2%, respectively

>hating on the most successful economic policy in history

So successful US real wages haven't improved since the 1970s.

>not counting growth in fringe benefits

(((oligarchs))) bought all the infrastructure pennies on the dollar

t. Yank that gets all of his information from maps and wikipedia

The USSR couldn't make the necessary reforms to boost its economy in the 80' and spent way an astronomic amount of its GDP on the military buildup.

Then it fell and the state crumbled, its remnants being taken by oligarchs who became billionaires in a savage capitalism society.

Now Russia slowly rise again even if it is somewhat the sickman of Europe.

with the massive alcohol problem Russia will always be 30 years behind

>What happened between 1980 and 2000 in Russia?
millions of people died

I'v heard that situation was so bad that people were got their salary in barter, ie. whatever their employer produced. There was an understanding that the employers will sell the stuff themselves.

It sucked to work in an ice-cream factory.

My mother actually got paid with some kind of food once during early 90s. She thought that at least she can give it to little me but it turned out that I was allergic to whatever that food was. Yeltsin killed millions.

To be fair, that was the effect of breakdown of supply chains due to the breakdown of USSR, rather than Yeltsin's policies.

The retarded hard-liners like Yanayev are therefore more to be blamed.

>being this much of a corporate cuck
>what is materialism?
No one with half a brain gives a shit about 'fringe benefits' because 'fringe benefits' do not improve your material conditions.

Replace jews with "people who sincerely believed in Friedman's theories" and it's actually fairly accurate.

This but unironically. What obesity/heart disease is to americans, liver disease is to russians.

De-communization went very, very badly. Read The Shock Doctrine.

>Read The Shock Doctrine.
Veeky Forums is too high on ideology to read anything as well researched as that.

Oh look, I have one bad example which TOTALLY negates all other good results.
ImSoSmart.jpg

Yeltsin crashed the economy with no survivors.

Russia went to shit too, and Greece, and every country that embraced neoliberalism... faggot

That's what niggers in Africa and spics in Latin America believe.

>Greece and its huge welfare system
>ruled by the social democrats in PASOK
>neoliberalism
What kind of leftard are you?

that's what racemixing with finns does to you

doesn't 2nd world literally refer to former soviet nations?

...

I like saudi, but even then
>saudi
>high HDI

the collapse of the soviet union didnt help

>third world country

These have been going down retard. Medical care is better, but it's only been a small increase in life expectancy since then.

Meanwhile pensions disappeared. So benefits suck now more too.

>the white nationalist USSR
You mean the multinational country that consisted of Russians and Ukrainians feeding hundreds of different types of shitskins who thanked them by beating the shit out of their kids in the army?

(((Bolshieveks)))

>At the time of Gorbachev’s visit to China in 1989, few people would have guessed that a decade later Deng’s policies would look smart and Gorbachev’s reckless. In the late 1980s, Gorbachev was widely hailed for his liberalizing policies. He won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1990 for reshaping the Soviet Union and ending the Cold War. Meanwhile, China’s decision to crush the Tiananmen protests was not only condemned worldwide by governments and media; it was also interpreted as evidence of Beijing’s backwardness.

>But by his death in 1997, Deng’s decision appeared vindicated, as world opinion had turned decisively in his favor. Deng had seen enough of Russia’s tumultuous politics to know where he stood: sacrifice political liberalization for stability’s sake, because the alternative was chaos and collapse. Chinese analysts of Soviet politics continue to fault Gorbachev for abandoning central planning too rapidly and in a disorganized fashion. Rather than liberalizing politics, they argue, Gorbachev should have focused on the economy.

>Today, top Chinese leaders cite the Soviet Union as an example of why China’s Communist Party must keep its fist clenched on power, even as it casts off the last remaining vestiges of the Maoist economy. Jiang Zemin, who succeeded Deng as China’s leader, argued in 1990 that the Soviet Union’s main problem was that Gorbachev was a traitor like Leon Trotsky. In December 2012, Chinese President Xi Jinping explained his analysis. “Why did the Soviet Union disintegrate?” he asked a group of Communist Party members. “Their ideals and convictions wavered,” he explained. “Finally, all it took was one quiet word from Gorbachev to declare the dissolution of the Soviet Communist Party, and a great party was gone.” Yet it is Deng’s logic that has come to dominate most interpretations of the Soviet Union’s collapse. “My father,” reported Deng’s youngest son, “thinks Gorbachev is an idiot.”

Social democrats and a welfare system are hallmarks of neoliberalism. That's why in nost (European) countries you have two major parties, center-left and center-right, who keep switching in power without anything significant being changed.
>inb4 immigrants
Merkel's Christian Democrats are a center-right party.

Gorbachev was truly an unbelievably incompetent, spineless idiot. People keep making up excuses for him, but the reality of the matter was that he single-handedly destroyed a superpower. Standing in 1985, the USSR's collapse was entirely avoidable.

youtu.be/fgm14D1jHUw

>1980-2000
brainlet poltards

this but ironically

my boyfriend who went to study in russia during "90 '91 says that communism was over and that people were slowly getting used to capitalism.

i think it's been trying to recover from all the post traumatic stress of bread lines and shit.

America had bread and fuel lines in the 70s, too.

>It was always a third world country
Good to see the brainlets on Veeky Forums don't actually know what the 1st, 2nd and 3rd worlds even meant

Economy collapsed and then all the state property was looted by jewish oligarchs

>Teach all your citizens to do only what the government tells you
>Have the entirety of society run by the government
>Government collapses
Gee, what a mystery

>pretending.jpg

The play by play is as follows...
> Late 1950s take up a lot of long term economic obligations to support other countries.
>1960s make very bad decisions on long term agricultural planning.
> 1974-1978 food production reach crisis levels. In order to not have a another great famine they import a lot of food using foreign capital & gold reserves. Even at the end of it they are still having to import a lot of food and have a trade in balance because of it.
>1975 NATO finally starts to get its act together again. USSR will have to invest a lot in armed forces modernization for itself AND for its allies because they will not to it themselves.
>1979 The costly Soviet–Afghan War starts. It will last for ten years.
>1982 US & six other key parts of NATO increase military spending strongly over a single year. USSR has to follow suit or be let behind.
>1984 USSR starts cutting foreign aid to save its last bit of gold reserves. To little, To late.
> Late 1984 in the less well liked parts of the USSR things start getting a lot worst for the general public. Chechen is one of those places.
>1985 Mikhail Gorbachev takes power and try's to fix the USSR. Some of his actions back fire. For details ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
>1991 USSR finally ends, what follows does not know how to fix its old problems in a timely fashion. a lot of corruption above what was already going happens.
> 1994 Chechen makes up its mind and said "I want out!" Two wars follows...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

Modern Ukraine is literally a white nationalist state

Successful for whom?

>complete social and economic collapse
>why did it become third world?

>Standing in 1985, the USSR's collapse was entirely avoidable.
Nope

white nationalist state controlled by Jewish oligarchy
woah

Yes.

Even North Korea is still standing after losing 1 million people during famines in the 1990s. A dictatorship can survive through sheer repression or even thirve through economic reform, but glasnost was a mistake as it put the carts of free speech before the horse of economic reform.

Even the worst case scenario of doing nothing would have been better for the Soviet leadership. Imagine a hardliner opposed to any reforms, like Grigory Romanov, came to power instead Gorbachev, you'd probably still see the Soviet Union abandon Eastern Europe or cutting aid to other socialist states out of sheer economic necessity, but the union itself would still be standing.

t. Nazbol

False comparison. China and North Korea are ethnically homogeneous; the USSR was 50% Russian.

The combination of Jewish privatization, breakup of the USSR, Chechnia War, and oil prices plummeting.

Who took over Russian industry, banking and media? Hodorkovsky, Abramovich, Prokhorov, Khan, Vekselberg, Berezovsky, Fridman, Malkin, Gusinsky, Rotenberg, Deripaska, Mikhelson, Aven, Abramov, Nevzlin, ALL KIKES.