I haven't had sex, or even a kiss or handhold with a girl for over three years now. I'm dying inside. All I do is work...

And when you do talk to these girls none of them sounds interesting and appealing.

forgot to add: haven't lifted in a few months.

I'm sure it will. I'm sure I won't wake up one day on my 50th birthday still being alone and telling myself, it's sure to get better soon...

I'm 5'8 and I get laid pretty much whenever I want, even before lifting

You're doing exactly what I expected- making up excuses

27 y/o kissless virgin reporting in.

Was talking to some drunk qts in the club but couldn't even make the move to kiss them or go dance.

I'm way too narcisstic and not confident in myself so I can never make a move in fear of rejection, even if a girl is obviously interested.

>I can't remember the last time I truly enjoyed something.
Try heroin

Look man, lifting is a solitary hobby. This might be controversial but have you considered dropping it and getting into a new sport such as surfing or climbing?

Get into an activity with a more social aspect, like a running club, crossfit, BJJ, or judo. Maybe you won't meet women there, but you can meet people who can set you up with someone.

Not Soul Cycle or yoga though. No men, but the type of women who do those are truly shit-tier.

The fuck can I do?
I just can't. I even tried looking into this PUA crap. Read Models by Mark Manson and that Book of Pook shit. Made me feel better for a week but still haven't actually approached. I can't bring myself to do it and that makes me hate myself, it's a vicious circle.

Also for the manlets ITT I went to a the other day and at 5'9 I was taller than 75% of the dudes in there, and they were still cucking me.

Any decent looking fit tall dudes, move to Pittsburgh and you will be a king, it's the city of ugly dwarves.

I tried going to a Muay Thai club. Some asshole kicked me so hard he broke my ribs. Haven't been since, it's been like 2 months and it still hurts if I move the wrong way.

>The fuck can I do?
Literally talk to different girls in real life and ask them for sex as soon as they show interest. Instead of pretending your height or X Y Z are to blame.

>I can't bring myself to do it and that makes me hate myself, it's a vicious circle.
If you can't talk to other human beings you're going to have a shit life. Deal with it or stop complaining on the internet.

You've got a few options as far as friends go. Find a quiet bar you like, become a regular. Join a club for a hobby or even a vague interest of yours. Hell even Craigslist has a strictly platonic section where it's not uncommon at all to see postings by guys who have just moved to the area and are looking for Bros. Just get out there man.

Can you just go out and talk to girls you don't know? Girls here will think you are a weirdo or something. Have you actually ever done this?

>Purely so I can understand it, why don't you guys talk to girls and have sex with girls?
I don't know about other people but for me at least I talk to girls a lot. I'm in 4 dancing classes per week. Obviously I have to talk to a lot of girls there. I also study but my courses are a huge sausagefest so not to many girls there. Still I found friends there, including girls.

Anytime I hit on a girl I got rejected. Everytime I tried to invite a girl out to do something they invite other people along. Pretty much no idea what I've got to do. One girl told me that she'd have gone out with me if I had asked her. But when she told me she had a boyfriend.

That's Muay Thai for ya. I honestly have no idea why more MT, MMA, and competitive kickboxing practitioners aren't injured all the fucking time.

I do BJJ at a place where the sensei puts big emphasis on technique and safety. You can still injury yourself (I once sprained my LCL landing on my ankle weird while sparring), but if you do it right, you shouldn't be injuring either yourself or your partner.

It's weird. Is it possible to be relatively good looking but utterly unattractive?

Do what you enjoy user. The girls will follow soon after. They love a man with direction. Sounds like you're lacking it.

>Can you just go out and talk to girls you don't know?
Yes, but it's harder and involves more social skill and nuance.

>Girls here will think you are a weirdo or something.
Girls already think you're a weirdo. You are a weirdo.

>Have you actually ever done this?
I lost my virginity when I was 16 which is fairly late by todays standards. Talking to strangers is a normal part of social interaction for normal people and I'm fairly normal, yes.

Then at least you're trying and I can somewhat empathise.

I'd suggest you're either
>Socially inept and asking the wrong way
>Not asking enough girls
>Just plain not confident enough
>Setting your standards too high

Without knowing you I'm literally just guessing though

You are probably weird as fuck, brother. I am not Chad Thundercock, but only 30% of women reject me when I approach them. And it's mostly my own fault, because I did't choose the right moment etc.

What the fuck has this to do with fitness, you imbecile?

Go to r9k to whine about your stupid life problems.

I'm the guy above you but I just wanted to agree with
>but only 30% of women reject me when I approach them. And it's mostly my own fault, because I did't choose the right moment etc.

Social skills are learned over time by socialising with lots of people and you pick up when the right moment is, but you only get there by failing.

And I still get rejected by something like a quarter of the girls I think are interested in me and ready to romance or fuck.

Virgins are almost always too scared of failure.

>Do what you enjoy user. The girls will follow soon after. They love a man with direction. Sounds like you're lacking it.

I do. I always have. Even when I was a kid and they asked me what I wanted to be, I didn't know. Now I'm an adult and I still don't know. All I feel is apathy and emptiness.

>Yes, but it's harder and involves more social skill and nuance.

It's called practice. Do it enough and you'll be good at it. Expect to fail, sooner rather than later you will suceed

>Girls already think you're a weirdo. You are a weirdo.

Everyone is a weirdo. Girls or Boys.

>I lost my virginity when I was 16 which is fairly late by todays standards. Talking to strangers is a normal part of social interaction for normal people and I'm fairly normal, yes.

Well that's a lie. Clearly still in high school.

Here's some advice. As long as you're not some land beast with a wacked out face. Chicks will digy our confidence and status (money can buy you that). All you have to do is say hi.

>average Veeky Forums poster

Then give yourself a target.

Like a promotion at work. Find ways to achieve it.

When you go out. Talk to girls like human beings whilst being an arrogant prick. A sense of humour helps. If you don't have one you're fucked.

Now, im no cassanova, but I get my fair share. It's just confidence and practice. You'll get rejected, so what? do you have have to see them again?

God speed user.

You're replying to the wrong person, I get laid pretty much whenever I want and was replying to his autistic questions.

Also girls don't necessarily dig money (though some do) but money facilitates confidence and safety of mind and therefore is great for getting laid. Common mistake trust fund bunnies mistake.

You're probably right. I'm here because I'm trying to not lose touch for good with lifting and I'm trying to motivate myself to get back on track asap.

>You are probably weird as fuck, brother.
As far as I can tell not moreso than the people around me.
>
Social skills are learned over time by socialising with lots of people and you pick up when the right moment is, but you only get there by failing.
Usually after doing something for a few years I expect to be proficient in it. I cringe when I think back at some of the stuff I did when I "started" but success just hasn't come yet despite what I'd consider improvements.

>You're replying to the wrong person, I get laid pretty much whenever I want and was replying to his autistic questions.

I talk to lots of girls but I always get rejected

Ah sorry man. Read your replies and got on a hype senpai.

People need to just man the fuck up and get involved with the gayldem

Just go on Tinder.

Even if you're ugly you can get matches with 4s and 5s because not many guys talk to them. Try different openings and convo's to see what works and what doesn't. Improve your Tinder game and meet some girls.

Then start dating those 4s and 5s, get comfortable with dating and talking to girls in real life. Next step is banging them (although chicks on tinder are really easy so it wouldn't be a suprise if you fuck one on the first date). Again, see what works and what doesn't and improve your game.

Your confidence will rise and you will start to get more comfortable with better looking girls.

Nothing will change if you don't put in the time and effort and overcome your fears. Just like getting Veeky Forums.

>and please don't say "because it's hard or I'm ugly"

Why?

sort yourself out

>Or should I just kill myself?

If you wanna joke about suicide, just fucking do it.

because making up excuses is fine for yourself but when you expect other people to tolerate your nonsense you're just being an asshole

Haha I know right. Everyone knows what they need to do they just want to complain and bitch about how they can't get any. It's the exact same mentality fat people have who don't workout