Communism is go__

>OP is always a fa____

To be fair not only is this better than what many of the German girls got near the end of the war but also something the japs deserved more, lucky bastards

Fascist?

>Americans know geogra__

>implying that internet commies aren't motivated entirely by the chance to carry out their sadistic fantasies against normies.

They did something similar to women in prisons for protesting the right to vote who went on hunger strikes.

That's one North Korean paintings which displayed American army as barbarians who did nothing but tortured and killed people. And those pictures posted by op, they are made by soviet dude based on prison folklore, he wasn't actually convicted. Not sure what the point he tried to make, yes, Soviet prisons were hell, yes, convicts would kill each other all the time, but that's pretty much why they ended up in prison?

Shit I’m a Brainlet who has trust In posters here, also I’m not American

They did the same thing in Britain to suffragettes

>the CIA said these things so they must be true

wtf iam communist now
>equall punishemnt for everyone is opression of women

>tfw no Baltic gf

Ants have sex

pictures were made by Baldaev Danzig Sergeevich, he actually worked as guard in prison but wasn't anywhere near GULAG(his prison was located in Leningrad). some of pictures are true, except for most bizarre ones like the dead kids one, that slit eyed retard was son of "enemy of the people" as well yet somehow he managed to live all the way to 2005 and worked in police

The nose knows

So, you are telling me.
They spent 16 years feeding them, basically assuming a lot of expenses
Just to shoot them when they were 16?

How can you believe that shit

>sunk cost fallacy

the guy killing them didn't spend a dime on them. He stole all their shit on a daily basis.

How can you.
Type like such a fucking

Colossal faggot?

THICC

he has no eyes, how could he see anyo f those things?

Here is the actual unedited drawing

Have some more of these.

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England did this to a few suffragettes who wouldn't eat in prison.

communsim sure is fun...

One of the most fucked up i've got.

youtube.com/watch?v=JwSIlzFSTpc

>thugs in prisons are thugs
>because of that a whole ideology is bad m'kay
That's like if the evidence to prove that the federal constituin delenda est were pictures of faggots buttraped in american prisons

THICC

>hey, just because this ideology arrested people on ideological grounds and put them into meat grinder prisons (really concentration camps) were they were tortured and murdered doesnt mean the ideology is bad!

>I mean, even in america, they arrest people for committing actual crimes so I guess we are all even, right?

why do you choose to be this retarded user?

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You do realise that tons of Gulag prisoners were arrested on accusations like "political enemy", "enemy of the people", "intellectual", "people Stalin personally didn't like", lots of these kind of prisoners were often falsely accused. All of this can be considered ideological crimes, which communists loved to arrest people, so putting ideology to blame is just.
Just to put you in perspective: by your logic, entire soviet space program was anti-worker thuggish achievements and entire space travel concept is "enemy of the proletariat" since most of early russian space/rocket sciencists and theorists like Korolev and Glushko were Gulag prisoners...

If you wanted to compare american similarity to this, you could've put example of "violation of the Smith Act" where communist party members were arrested for simply being communist...

>anarcho-communists
>supporting the USSR

You seem confused

Every prison is based on ideological grounds, the "right to property" which causes theft to be considered a crime is an ideological ground, just as the justification for arresting someone for being a kike was ideological, or the justification for arresting someone for murder is ideological or the justification for flogging people for lying is ideological.

It is all based on the current underlying ideology, i.e whatever society decides is a such a powerful threat to itself that justifies punishment.

Any sort of moral condemnation of gulags or prisons or concentration camps is the result of you applying your morality spooks to another society.

That means that you can't argue that they "shouldn't be arrested in the first place" because you can literally do mental gymnastics to say that of every prisoner ever.

fuck off, Stirner

>Every prison is based on ideological grounds

complying about whataboutism is complying about someone using your own argument against you, you are a nigger if you have problem with it

>neolithic society arrests a local serial killer psychopath
>"Comrades, that serial maniac was an early stage of capitalist spy!"

>hey pal, using a false equivilancy and what aboutism is perfectly acceptable argument!
no it isnt you retard.

Watch this
>Be [ideology]
>Kill people brutally
>"Guess [ideology] doesn't work fellas human nature I spose"

WHY DO YOU FUCKS CONFUSE THEORY WITH PRACTICE EVERY TIME

MY GUESS IS YOURE NOT CONFUSED, JUST DISHONEST

Theory is irrelevant, only practice matters.

Anarcho communists and syndicalists were sent to the gulgag you massive retard

is property
just a spook?

People were put in prison for drinking alcohol in the US around this time, no justice system is perfect. Besides this stuff happened as a result of Stalin, whose ideas were actually contrary to those of Marx and Lenin on a multitude of issues.

>getting this butthurt after you constantly shill for the soviet union on this board
fuck off.

Only yours.

>muh shills

Lenin is the one who created the gulag system you uneducated jackass. This is what Marxism is user.

Did you get that from the GULAG Archipelago?
Lenin provided the foundations of it. Stalin was the one who made it larger than ever before and used it specifically for forced labor and massive scale repression.

Yeah but it was originally only for criminals and terrorists. Stalin enlarged it and made the conditions much worse.

Lenin and his Cheka just thought of idea and utilized the first prototype of Solovki prison camps.
Trotsky and Yagoda were the ones who created the system.
Stalin and NKVD were the ones to perfected the system.

>Lenin provided the foundations of it.
already moving the goalpost are we?

try studying history instead of jerking off to shitty leftypol memes
academicresearchjournals.org/IJPSD/PDF/2014/June/Pipes.pdf

if it was just stalin, then how come Lenin, Mao, Kim, Castro ect all have secret police and concentration camps? What did Marx mean when he called the implementation of communism despotic inroads?

>Yeah but it was originally only for criminals and terrorists
you guys sound more and more like stormfags every day lol. And what "crimes" were people sent there for exactly?

First, let’s look at the facts. Here the moralist Solzhenitsyn begins with an enormous fraud. In dozens of pages he lays out a detailed description of the red terror.But not a word about the white terror that came first and that led to the Bolsheviks’ response!

Not a word about thegenerosityof the revolutionists in October, November, and December, 1917, when they freed most, if not all, of their prisoners; like General Kaledin, for example, who quickly responded by unleashing a wave of terror and assassinations against the proletariat in power! Not a word about the thousands of communists, commissars, and soldiers traitorously murdered throughout a country put to the torch and drowned in blood with the aim of reestablishing the rule of the landlords and capitalists. Not a word about the armed attacks on Bolshevik leaders – not imaginary attacks, like the ones the victims of the Moscow trials were accused of, but real ones, like the assassination of Volodarsky and the attempted assassination of Lenin! Not a word about the intervention of foreign armies, about the invasion of Soviet territory on seven different fronts! Solzhenitsyn the “moralist” and “nationalist” is singularly reduced in stature by presenting such a one-sided analysis.

>Pipes
Into the trash it goes.
That being said, Stalin and Mao were probably the biggest offenders when it came to labor camps. North Korea is a runner-up. Castro, Lenin, and many other communist leaders don't even come close.

>bitching about whatbaoutism
trashed. fuck off you holocaust denier

The white army wasn't a bastion of human rights like people pretend it was. They did pogroms of minorities and executed mercilessly anybody who contributed to the revolution.

I'm just answering the question.

>literally can not argue with Stirner because he was right
Why do Hum*ns are so SPOOKED by the EGOTIST MAN?

V.V. Oldenberger, an old apolitical engineer who was chief technician of the Moscow waterworks, was persecuted by a communist cell that wanted to remove him because he was so apolitical. He was driven to suicide. Solzhenitsyn waxes indignant about the corrupt, ignoble, communist plotters in this factory. It’s not until you read to the end of Solzhenitsyn’s account that you find out that the trial he is talking about was organized by the Soviet stateto defend Oldenberger, a trial organizedagainstthe communist cell that had persecuted him, a trial that ended bysentencinghis persecutors, a trial that proved that the workers in the plant had been able to freely elect Oldenberger to the Sovietagainstthe unanimous pressure of the communist cell.

>jokes on you, Im not even going to read anything that challenges my conspiracy theory!

notice how the original claim was that it was just Stalin, but now you are already forced to admit that all those other communist regimes did the exact same thing?

Thomas Buergenthal, a man who was in Auschwitz, says north korean camps are just as bad as what he went through
washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-koreas-prisons-are-as-bad-as-nazi-camps-says-judge-who-survived-auschwitz/2017/12/11/7e79beea-ddc4-11e7-b2e9-8c636f076c76_story.html?utm_term=.3647e9fe3ba7

you also didnt answer my question about what Marx meant when he called communism despotic

Oh... so white army prisoners, orthodox clergy, social revolutionaries, intellectuals, "le richmen porky" are all criminals now?
>inb4 "but of course! They are all anti-revolutionary criminals! My ideology is justified!"

>again with the whataboutism
Nice way of proving user right...

>whataboutism

lets put it this was guys. Im arguing that bob is a piece of shit because hes a theif and a murder, and you are trying to convince me otherwise by saying "well tom robbed a store the other day!"

this, in no way whatsoever, changes the reality of what bob did. It doesnt even try to suggest he is innocent. It is a complete and total non argument.

You can't argue with a madman who considers arguing itself a spook practise.

Stalinist terror is the product of the victory of political counterrevolution in the Soviet Union. The fact that Stalin had to exterminate a whole generation of revolutionists who had led the October Revolution and erected the Soviet state is in itself sufficient to refute the identity Solzhenitsyn arbitrarily establishes between the executioner and his victims. This political counterrevolution in turn represents definite material and social interests: those of a privileged bureaucratic layer that while basing itself on the new property relations created by the socialist revolution, defends its own monopoly of economic and political control as well as the immense advantages that it draws from the prevailing conditions of prolonged scarcity.

Gregory Mandel

This is the crux of the argument.

All I was saying is that there was context for everything that happened.

To claim, as Solzhenitsyn does, that Trotskyists in the labor camps behaved in a sectarian manner and were incapable of waging hunger strikes for prolonged periods in order to win a series of demands is to insult the memory of the heroes, who numbered more than a thousand, who launched aneighteen-week-longhunger strike around a five-point program defending the rights of all political prisoners just at the height of the Stalinist terror.

Gregor Mandel

>muh conspiracy theories
I never said that other communist regimes did "exactly the same thing." The evidence available indicates that Stalin, Mao, and the Kims were/are in a class of their own when it comes to brutality. Nobody outside the far right nutjobs, propagandists, and Cold War ideologues like Pipes is claiming otherwise.
>North Korea is similar to Nazi Germany in regards to their camps
That's true for the most part. There is a lot of evidence of the brutality of the Kim regime's labor camps. The only thing that sets the Nazis apart is the more systematic approach to extermination via gas chambers.

>Nobody outside the far right nutjobs, propagandists, and Cold War ideologues like Pipes is claiming otherwise.
and you and most other communist when you claim that it was only Stalin that did that shit before I called you out on your bullshit. Notice how you said Stalin and Mao, and now you are forced to include the Kims along with them? Are you noticing a pattern here?

You still havent answered by question about what Marx meant by "despotic inroads" btw.

Go read up on UMAPs to
panampost.com/vanesa-vallejo/2016/12/07/fidel-castro-homophobic-dictator-forced-labor-camps/

>hey, there was a context for the holocaust, just read this nazi propaganda

Nigger tell me, who is worse? Guy that killed a guy for no reason or second guy that killed some guy for no reason? Obviously the second one, because first guy accused him first and saying they are the same would be whataboutism.

>diving into stupid hypotheticals since you have no real justification for the wanton slaughter committed by communist

>implying that internet nazis aren't motivated entirely by the chance to carry out their sadistic fantasies against normies.

I'm not a communist. I'm just someone who doesn't buy into Cold War politicized bullshit.

Because they're just cartoons.

>im not a neo-nazi, Im just someone who doesnt buy into jewish politicized bullshit
you really need to take a step back from this conversation and really think about what you are doing with your life user. Also, I've proven you wrong on all challanges to this supposed cold war "politicized bullshit"

you still havent answered my question about what Marx meant when he called the implementation of communism despotic

that's not what is says you moron. It says they killed the children because they /would/ become a threat to the system when they grew up

>if you dislike jews you must be a nazi

>Godwin's Law
About Marx, there are tons of fake and out-of-context quotes attributed to him. Quotes aside, he was primarily a theorist of capitalism, rather than an architect of communism.

>completely dodging the question
>all after your initial claim that it was just stalin who had concentration camps and secret police was utterly BTFO

I never said that only Stalin had camps and secret police. Stop strawmanning.

assuming you arent the person here
either way, this is a common bullshit excuse by clueless children who like to LARP as communist. You still dodge the question btw.

Why are e-commies so afraid to be exposed as misanthropic mentally ill tranny ultra-minority victims who want to practise sadism on the majority of society? Why are they all bourgeois rich kids who hate themselves bros?

Well, duh.

>communism is gommunism

According to reviews some of these are allegorical. Others look like they definitely could have happened.