HOW MANY NAZIS

how many neo-nazis and white supremacists are there actually?
have they suddenly emerged in huge numbers in the trump age, or are we just seeing a moral panic about the racism boogeyman?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=TePRNGdMPIw
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Bush
youtube.com/watch?v=xqWxgCZ1TQE
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups#Black_separatist/nationalist
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Seeing someone as holding a view as acceptable hardly constitutes support for that idea.

>deadly racially-charged violence which erupted at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville

It says DODGE on the car, ya gotta DODGE!

The infestation is nothing new

The more people are butthurt about nazis the more people join them. It has worked that way with every subculture in history and im surprised people have not figured that out.

...

If you were older than 30 you'd know libcucks were always calling everyone a nazi. Before Trump it was Bush, and before Bush it was Reagan and Nixon. Even George Wallace who actually fought against nazis was called a nazi.

this tbqh

i remember back in the 2000's when i was a young lib and thought dubya was a christo-fascist that was gonna declare marshal law after 2008. I cringe when i think about it.

Wallace didn't fight Nazis. He went on bombing raids over Japan

If by Nazis you mean racist Americans, they've always been pretty much the same number. It's just that the Internet allows them to be more vocal. Especially the younger ones who can't yet find their place turn to a seemingly contrarian ideology to find a belonging. That's why the most vocal supporters of racist shit on this site are ~20 year old losers. For most of them it's going to be a phase and they'll be embarrassed in ten years when they realize how dumb they acted.

I hate these sensitive little bitches, you can be nazi even if you refuse to buy black bread

back to r*ddit

I remember the liberals saying he's gonna create concentration camps for all the muslims and gays kek

>muh reddit

youtube.com/watch?v=TePRNGdMPIw

Hippies at one point thought that Governor Reagan would re-purpose the Japanese internment camps as dissident camps.

Why are you idiots acting like nazis have a patent on racism and if you're racist you automatically must be a nazi? Most white Americans who fought against nazi Germany in WW2 were racist too, and so were the Brits.

Man those 25 years since 2017 sure did fly.

Where did I even imply that you idiot?

I know because i was one of them. i used to go to iraq war protests with my gf and listen to edgy anti bush music. It was cringe bro but honestly nothing compared to the cringy shit democrats do today.

Veeky Forums was a lot different back then too. it was very leftist which is kinda funny when you compare it to today. But it was always full of social rejects and i was one of the few normalfags who browsed back in the day.

>If by Nazis you mean racist Americans

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Bush
Do you also remember this shit?
>The band Propagandhi decided not to participate when Fat Mike requested that they change the lyrics of a song critical of George Soros that they wished to contribute.
kek

>Veeky Forums was a lot different back then too. it was very leftist

More leftist than people shilling communism on Veeky Forums at every time of the day?

>Veeky Forums was a lot different back then too. it was very leftist which is kinda funny when you compare it to today
Veeky Forums has always been contrarian. Someone should tell the autistic Trumpshits.

>Is there a resurgence of white nationalism in the US today
Yes
>Are most of them nazis
No
>Are there many of them?
Not really
>Has trump caused this?
No, rather they were both caused by the same thing. Which is the left going insane.
>Is there a moral panic?
Yes, people want to feel oppressed, they want to feel like they're fighting for civil rights.

First of all you equate racism with a political ideology which was unique to Germany.

Secondly you only consider whites to be racist.
Thirdly if you actually followed any social media you would see which group of people is involved in most hate crimes

If by "leftist", you mean "hates Dubya".

I wouldn't say Veeky Forums was leftist but it was heavily anti-Bush. Then again most of the people who shat on Bush on /b/ were Eurofags who also shat on everything American.

It's just panic since social media and internet give them unparalleled visibility and organisation. Actual active neo-nazis are tiny fucking fringe.

There are more Afro Centrist black supremacists than there are white supremacists.

Several incidents happend involving black supremacists mass murdering white people, for example the guy who attacked police and another black man who specifically targeted whites

Then there is a case of a disabled teenager being kidnapped by racist blacks

>Southerners
>White

If you can dodge a car, you can dodge antifa

>how many white people recognize that they are under attack from their government and a certain psychopathic tribal banking cartel and multinational corporations who care not for borders and flood white countries with third worlders

You guys were doing literally the same shit over Obama

You mean the muslim socialist thing? At least he had a muslim dad so there's the connection.

>this revisionism

explain

I was here, you weren't.

Pretty much every white person.

No, they were literally putting Hitler mustaches on Obama and unironically calling him Hitler and the anti-christ. You /pol/tards are so ridiculously self-oblivious and completely lacking in self awareness. You think self awareness means occasionally admitting a bad thing then coming up with 20 excuses for it.

Clearly you weren't. You might have been around 2008 at the earliest.

>Americans support nazis
>David Duke gets only 60k votes in one of the most racist states
Explain that

2006 actually. /b/ was always more libertarian than anything else and other boards didn't matter.

There are zero people that self-identify as "Nazi" seriously

You have to give a definition of what you mean by "Nazi" to get an accurate answer to your question.

Among many examples. There was a PAC even that made it a major part of its campaigning.

>thinking trump (the neocon Zionist) is pushing white separatism

Anarcho-edgy. A /b/tard would have tread all over your shit and violated the NAP as long as he could do it anonymously without repercussion.

>Anarcho-edgy
So, libertarian.

and what about those opinions that he was just puppet of jews?

thats just every person in the establisment.
Including the great saviour DJT

I always found that republicans are by far the bigger crybabys. Liberals are crybabys, yes, but republicans even cry about that other guy crying, and how that other guy shouldn't be allowed to cry.

this

>War on christmas
the absolute state of the american right wing

Not in the current American usage of the word, which implies right-libertarianism. It was no more right-libertarian than it was left-libertarian. /b/ certainly didn't believe in property rights, or even expression of an identity to which individual property rights could be attributed and each post was more or less judged by its own merits unless you were a tripfag attentionwhore.

You might be mistaking modern PC liberalism for leftism in general, in which case old /b/ seems like the anti-thesis of it.

and do you sometimes watch (or see somewhere) photos or videos of Angela Merkel giving speeches? You can see jews sitting behind her as she blames germany for everything, even for 6mil deaths in death camps and familiar lies... how can't one see how they are really controlling everything?

>It was no more right-libertarian than it was left-libertarian.
Nah, stop making shit up. /b/ was literally always making fun of poor people.

if jews are always controlling everything, how come they need to sit behind her?

I see the US president and prime minister of India talk about how India and the US are natural allies, and my parents remember the USS Enterprise sailing into the Bay of Bengal ready to declare war on us.

>muh genocide muhfugga jooz be puttin the (56%) white man down

They were also making fun of rich people. You're clearly one of those faggots who thought because people said NIGGGERNIGGERNIGGER on /b/ they were proto/pol/ and completely ignored the fact that they made fun of rednecks and literally anyone.

>Veeky Forums is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect.

So what exactly was leftist anarchist about /b/ you fucking retard? Leftist anarchists want a social revolution, abolition of classes and equality. Tell me again when did /b/ stand for that?

I dont know, few weeks ago I didn't even give a shit about that, but I always was interested in ww2 and history and read all books from Timothy Snyder... but then came across those holocaust denials and deniers and tried to figure out why would they do that? Back then I didn't believed their rumors, but then saw few documents from Cole and Zundel, finally came to Mrs Haverbeck and her explanation of hooton plan and CLAP everything seemed to give sense and I don't know if I fell in their trap, or realized the truth?
I'm basically trying to find someone with familiar attitude and feeling..

This. old /b/ where a bunch of little shits that would do anything to piss anyone off

retards like this only see's the world in a sociopolitical context and dose not get that old /b/ was bunch of edgy retards looking for attention.

>There are more Afro Centrist black supremacists than there are white supremacists.
source?

Then stop chimping out when I mention /b/ wasn't particularly leftist.

>wanting to live in an ethnically homogeneous country free from racial issues is an unacceptable view
wew lad

>they've always been pretty much the same number
and what is that number?

>Leftist anarchists want a social revolution, abolition of classes and equality.
Raids, forced anonymous and hating everyone with no exceptions. It's pretty much the same except with the utopian parts removed.

then stop pretending it was particularly rightist.
you /pol/tard in denial.

I wasn't even doing that you fucking mongoloid. I said it was libertarian which doesn't have to have a left/right political affiliation, while the other retard keeps insisting it was leftist.

>raids and forced anonymous = leftism
Make it more obvious you're just a /leftypol/ tourist posing as an oldfag please.

>implying /b/ was an egalitarian politically correct anti-racism utopia
/b/ is randian as fuck, a bunch of independent actors all screaming for (you)s

Make it more obvious that you're /pol/ who is pretending to be an oldfag even though you never were actually there and only knows tertiary sources about how Veeky Forums used to be.

>(you)s
>old /b/
Get out

Libertarian has a right-wing skew in modern usage.

Is this bait? I can pick out a half dozen things from this post alone that show you're a newfag.

>Veeky Forums was leftist! Fox News told me so!
>literally nobody on Veeky Forums gave a shit about class politics, wealth redistribution or literally anything even remotely leftist
>edgy humor that was mostly racist or homophobic in nature
>b-but true left HATES EVERYONE teenage angst and edginess is true leftism xD
I also love how you arbitrarily set 2008 as the cutoff point since Ron Paul was running for president that year and there were Ron threads everywhere on /b/ and /k/.

Yes. Fascism, national socialism, comunism, etc... are left wing.

Yet people here keep pushing for the opposite notion.

This is the antithesis to a globalised world. A natural reaction, and equally natural is to stamp it out once more as our fathers did.

Could you strawman and harder? Keep thinking (you)s existed in 2006 and think anyone but /pol/ will take you seriously.

The Neo nazi pissbabies on this board make me want to puke, go back to your containment board you racist fucktards. Communism will win

I never said (You) existed in 2006 you fucking imbecile. You likely don't remember refreshing each thread manually or what noko did let alone the side menu on the left.

>>implying /b/ was an egalitarian politically correct anti-racism utopia
>/b/ is randian as fuck, a bunch of independent actors all screaming for (you)s
Ok, pretty sure you're now just desperately googling things hoping to make yourself look like you know what you're talking about.

>randian
>not stirnerite

youtube.com/watch?v=xqWxgCZ1TQE

Look in the comments

according to the SPLC there are 917 hate groups in the US
450 of those are white supremacist
130 of those are KKK
the KKK has an estimated 5,000-8,000 members
8000/130 = 61.5 members per group on average
assuming the other white supremacist hate groups have the same member count, we get
450 * 61.5 = 27,675 white supremacists in the US

>/b/ is randian as fuck, a bunch of independent actors all screaming for (you)s
That wasn't me. You were replying to two separate posts in

Whats a "general hate" group?

/b/

That's fucking moronic though because even assuming all those groups genuinely were white supremacists the VAST majority of the people who push the same ideas online aren't registered with a group or straight up view those groups as controlled op.

then what % of white supremacists would you guess are actual members of those groups?
do the 27,675 make up 10%? 1%? 0.1%?

Do you have any better statistics that estimate how many actual white supremacists there are?

FUCK DRUMPF NO KKK NO FASCIST USA THIS IS AN r/leftypol r/socialism COLONY GET OUT BIGOTWEENIES *opens mouth*

Now you're going to post a screenshot with the other (you) shopped out

>le everyone I reply to is a samefag
Okay schizo retard.

I have no idea. But of the younger generation i would say almost none of them.
The closest you could get is looking at the number of visitors on popular ar websites like the right stuff, alternative hypothesis or amren. Even then you only measure the amount of people who are very engaged, the average poltard doesn't even know his own talking points (which they would if they went to these sites)

This thread isn't history or humanities. It belongs on /pol/.

Your newfaggotry shows through all your posts. Especially your fundamental lack of understanding how things worked back then and your desperation to try to drop trivia about back then in an attempt to add validity to your claims. It's pretty clear you're probably an underage b& because you think leftism means PC LGBTQWERTY liberalism.

White nationalism got debased the same way everything else did in America. In the 90s you had skinheads, preppers and people bombing shit, right now it's people like the fat fuck soyboy with Jewish heritage Mike Enoch screaming dated /pol/ memes on his shitty podcast, or a commie zionist Richard Spencer LARPing as a right wing leader.
And obviously then you have actual /pol/ which is full of 20-something shitskins and jews from major cities posting merchant memes on the internet to be edgy.

Fuck off already leftist faggot, you're not fooling anybody.

it's more like social science

>The more people are butthurt about nazis the more people join them.
This.
Hitler loved the street clashes between nazi and commie thugs, since he could claim their opponents openly want to opress, kill and silence them.
>christo-fascist
Speaking, what was with the american liberal obsession that the religious right was gonna institute a fundie fascist theocracy and take all our feminist tree-thinker right.
Even Margaret Atwood said her cringy anti-erotic novel is firmly in the stuff that might happen camp.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups#Black_separatist/nationalist
Notice the increase