Five Good US Presidents

5 best:

1. Obama
2. Nixon
3. Johnson
4. Adams
5. FDR

Kennedy was a warmonger who got thousands of young Americans killed in an unwinnable conflict

Everyone after blames Johnson and Nixon who were both better presidents because it wouldn't be polite to pin the blame on that pos Kennedy, fuck that

>Reagan
>Neglected engineering inspections on a space shuttle and cried crocodile tears when the astronauts serving their country for science got fucked
>Told gay people with AIDS they could go fuck themselves and die

yeah ok no

he also let thousands of bad immigrants in in his 2nd term which is the reason Trump now has to build the wall to prevent that shit in the future

>Polk

In an alternate timeline, would the US southwest be doing better under Mexican rule? Really gets the noggin joggin.

>>Told gay people with AIDS they could go fuck themselves and die
>implying that's a bad thing

Not true. The ministery of health recognized and offered help as early as 81

Washington, Tyler, Arthur, Cleveland, Cooodge

Washington
Lincoln
Teddy
FDR
Reagan

Depends if the USA enforces its Monroe doctrine or lets foreign powers fuck with Mehico

>most americans are poor working class types who hate big business and lean left
>great depression happens
>FDRs new deal happens
>all these americans love him, and a generation of New Deal Democrats is born
>Republicans usually just get BTFO, exception for Eisenhower just for how well respected he was
>JFK is elected, but is assassinated
>hippies happen
>all these new deal democrats look at the left and say "what the fuck is this stupid shit?"
>they all panick
>Jimmy Carter gets elected and hes basically a worthless soyboy
>Reagan comes in, promises to make america great again, and to stop all this post-vietnam American shame/New Left dogshit
>EVERYONE loves him, especially the new deal democrats
>even now, American politics is held in the Reagan Matrix

How accurate is this quick assessment?

In no specific order:
>Polk
>JFK
>Truman
>Eisenhower
>John Quincy Adams

Jimmy Carter was great though. Just not the rightperson for modern showlitics

Nixon, Jefferson, Wilson, Roosevelt and Obama, in this order

Lincon caused a civil war, Reagan finance de-regulation lead to 2008 crack, Clinton going to china destroyed what was left in US industries autonomy, Kennedy did Cuba and Nam

>Reagan finance de-regulation lead to 2008 crack
source? Pretty sure it was the shitty subprimeloans for poor minorities

yeah, that was more Clintons fault for making it illegal to deny loans to poor dindus

youtube.com/watch?v=FzrBurlJUNk

it talks the long story of de-regualtions tarting with reagan

oh yeah, then all the Southwest US would look like Juarez or Tijuana. Genius.

No offense but could you link a more credible source than what seems to be a trailer for a hollywood flick?
Or better yet just statethe arguments that convinced you that Reagan deregulations caused the 2008 crisis.

Jefferson - helped the nation grow twofold, had the Louisianna purchase explored, cut beauracracy, beat the Barbery pirates, and overall kept the US true to the federalism in the constitution.
Cons: probably was too busy owning slaves to do anything about it, but atleast he worked to end the slave trade.

George Washington - was an independent, normalized relations with GB, put down the Whisky Rebellion, stopped the proposed coup plan, and stepped down despite being popular enough to rule for life, thus setting the two term precedent.
Cons: did little to nothing to stop the impressment of US sailors and created the Bank.

Abe Lincoln - kept the union together, proposed a reconstruction plan that would forgive the south, did the amancipation proclamation, 13th amendment, and ended slavery.
Cons: kinda was becoming a tyrant, suspending habeas corpus and declaring martial law.

Eisenhower - had the balls to do operation Wetback, gave us the highways, lowkey civil rights hero, kept US military industrial complex in check and no wars to my knowledge.
Cons: i dont think he did much against redling and he did the Iranian coup.

Herbert Hoover - saw the great deppression and didnt become a massive socialist like FDR, balanced the budget, and cut taxes.
Cons: bad rep in history.

I shook Jimmy Carter's hand once. His handshake was soft and week, a dead fish. Much like he. Iran hostage crisis, inflation, prime interest rate in the 20's.

Trump, Jackson, Nixon, Reagan and Bush Jr.

No he was probably the worst president this country ever had.

oh okay sorry

Obama is

>herbert 'the bust' hoover
Okay he was dealing with a pretty unpresidented situation, but his response was just 'lol theres no deficit, what do you mean you dont have a job?'

We should have a thread called "Bad President but Good Man" or alternatively"Great President but a rotten Man".

>Bad President but Good Man
FDR
>Great President but a rotten Man
Blonald Hrumpf

Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, Taft, Eisenhower. Those were pretty good and didn't really have major failures that I can think of. I'd give the fifth to a more divisive president like Lincoln, FDR or LBJ, but I'm not sure which.

That is a weird group.

it's a well done documentary

Disclaimer: i know next to nothing of pre civil war presidents

Frenklin 'i can be president for life' delano 'and its still a democracy' rooseveldt
Face it, he makes the list just for winning elections, never mind wars and essentially beginning the nuclear age

Dwight 'if you really knew wars you wouldnt start them' Eisenhower
The last republican who didnt fall for rampant populism.

Barrack 'literally sastan according to his opponents' obama
First democrat in almost 100 years who didnt fall for rampant populism, also cut us oil consumtion i half saving everyone from dependemce on the house of saud

Theodore 'why be president when you can hunt elefants' rooseveldt
Busted the trusts and started the us on the road out of the rampant corruption of the gilded era

Abraham 'the union exists because of me' lincoln
Requires no explanation

lincoln didn't cause the Civil War. He baited Jeff Davis into starting it.

>people unironically listing recent presidents

The last good president was FDR. Prove me wrong.

Very good. The two political giants of the last 100 years were Ron Reagan and FDR.

>dude if the economy isn't running we don't need oil
thanks obama

>ends the recession
>halves unemployment
>sustained growth throughout 2 terms
>'dude the economy isnt running lmao'

JFK

New rule: the president(s) you list CANNOT be Rothschild agents sent to destroy the United States from within. This rules out FDR and Obama and both Bushes and Wilson forever and ever.

The Trump crowd doesn’t use facts and statistics come on we know this by now.

1)That one who died in 32 days after election
2)Drumpf
3)JFK
4)Al Gore
5)Roosevelt

>lincoln didn't cause the Civil War. He baited Jeff Davis into starting it.

The Rothschilds stirred up all the trouble. There were British agents infiltrating the South just as there are today. The confederate constitution was created to fail. Who on earth thinks God is really going to endorse slavery quite explicitly like that?

Lincoln created the greenback so he wouldn't have to use their debt-creating currencies to fund the war. They killed him in revenge. JFK had the exact same fate for the exact same reason.

Nope, he expanded public works and didnt do a new deal which really didnt fix the economy. The president has no constitutional duty to ensure people have job nor they have welfare. If you disagree, then site the Article, section, and clause of the constitution where it explicitly says he does.

>prove me wrong
He was a socialist.

In no particular order (other than chronological)

Jefferson
McKinley
Teddy Roosevelt
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Nixon

IIRC FDR wanted to curtail the socialists with his policies so people wouldn't want to turn to them

Which is why his later New Deal policies dealt with industry and job creation vs welfare

>we all know the Trump crowd doesnt use statistics
>makes a large ASSumption about a group saying they dont use statistics
>does site statistics to prove his point

Have you ever heard of Sargon of Akkad. Well sourced, peer reviewed, and logical af. Oh and also part of the Trump crowd.

> doesnt want people to turn into socialists
> does socialism so they wont have to go to others for it

Social Security, welfare checks, government work programs, and other form of Doles is welfare.

1.Trump
2.Trump
3.Trump
4.Trump
5.Trump
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>his source is an alt right youtuber
>who doesnt even link his sources in video descriptions

Baby level shit

Tommy J, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, JFK

>the constitution doesnt obligate me to do this
>therefore i can just neglect to do anything im not forced to as presidemt and not be criticized

True the new deal didnt really fix the economy but that doesnt absolve hoover for doing even less

t.

Wrong and dumb and also crazy

Truman, JQA, Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR

Work programs not really

He started distancing himself from welfare when it turned out to be unpopular

Roosevelt wanted Democrats, not Socialist. Keep in mind this is the same era of Huey Long, Father Coughlin, more socialist intellectuals than you can count, and even the Nazis starting up in Germany. Roosevelt wanted to avoid all that starting up in the USA, so he hoped that the New Deal would curtail that by placating the (particularly voting) populace.

Also this is the era of Stalin's industrialization programs in the USSR. The death toll hadn't been made public, so all the West was seeing was Soviet propaganda boasting all these large factories, dams, and other industrial facilities across the USSR. This made Conservatives and Liberals shit their pants and emboldened Socialists and Communists (as Stalin probably intended) to cite that as proof that "Communism works!" This partially explains FDR's emphasis on Industry building (to outdo the USSR)

Eisenhower, Jefferson, Jackson, Nixon, Coolidge

In no particular order
Teddy
Madison
Washington
Kennedy
Jackson

There were no good presidents

Me

Washington
Adams
Teddy R.
Eisenhower
Nixon

You're not even trying.

Teddy
Monroe
Polk
Eisenhower
Washington

Lincoln
FDR
Teddy
Washington
Jefferson

Lincoln
Ted Roosevelt
Grant (because fuck the south)
Wilson
John Quincy Adams

>Have you ever heard of Sargon of Akkad. Well sourced, peer reviewed, and logical af. Oh and also part of the Trump crowd.

>Buchanan

Five good presidents:
>Jefferson
>Teddy Roosevelt
>Cleveland
>Monroe
>Polk
Five bad presidents:
>Van Buren
>Buchanan
>Wilson
>Adams (first one)
>Johnson
"I can't decide if they were good or bad" presidents:
>Lincoln
>Nixon
>FDR
>Obama
>Jackson

>hoover
>literally used mustard gas on a bunch of wwi vets protesting for their gi bill hoover was too much of a cheap ass to give

Agreed.

youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58

Above all, the guy was honest, and that's not what people want.

>iran hostage crises
If this is the only example you have, I'd say that's a pretty damned good presidency. In the grand scheme of things, this was a tiny event that didn't even end up that bad. The calls that were made were not bad calls. Things beyond anyone's control happened.

>inflation
>interest rates
This is not the president's job. This seems to be your issue. You seem to want a tyrant to rule you.

I got asscancer reeding did XDDD

> there are people who unironically call Obama a great President

Obama did almost nothing as President. Obamacare was his one major legislative accomplishment, Dodd Frank was the only major bill and he had very little to do with it. His foreign policy was unremarkable (not as bad as some would say).

Most of the accomplishments we associate with Obama were just the people in his administration. Valerie Jarrett was key (Obama himself said he didn't make any major decisions without her). Obama was lazy and for this reason you get the IRS going rogue on conservatives, Eric Holder defending Fast and Furious, Ben Rhodes making the Iran deal, and all sorts of odd incidents because Obama was not in command.

What did we get for it? Slow growth and huge debt, ISIS, war in Libya, more political and racial tensions, all mixed at best. Putting Obama up there with the greats like Teddy or Washington or Lincoln is so wrong that I think I'm being trolled.

>Jackson

literally why

>Lincon caused a civil war

washington, embodied the spirit of the united states
teddy roosevelt, cracked down on rampant oligarchy and trusts
clinton, his autism over the economy saw a budget surplus that hasn't happened since reagan fucked everything up, too bad his bitch wife couldn't control his libido
FDR, for not fucking things up during ww2 and not fucking things up too badly during the depression

>most of the accomplishments we associate with Obama were just the people in his administration
It should be implied in the post that when we talk about the best presidents, we are talking about the best president administrations. If this were truly about the president and the president only, then this would just mostly devolve into a popularity contest

it should be implied in OP's post*

W. Harrison
Coolige
Washington
Polk
everyone else is tied for last

>had the balls to do operation Wetback
I wouldn't say that this was a good thing. Officials had the distinct tendency to just pick up Hispanics who were full citizens off the street and dump them back in the middle of mexico with no chance to grab their papers from their house or prove their citizenship. Then there was the thing about america encouraging their migration in order to fill labor shortages and then tossing them aside like a used cum rag the second they weren't as useful. The two facedness of the operation as well as the indiscriminate nature of it is the primary reason people don't trust immigration control today. Where I live when Trump was elected people weren't worried about him deporting illegals, they were worried about completely legal citizens getting pulled into it.

Teddy, LBJ, Bill Clinton, Washington, and Ike

Eisenhower
Garfield (Taken from us too early)
Lincoln
FDR
Kennedy

Show the full article in the video with title in full view, then precedes to read it off clearly. Gives exact names.
> complains about sources not being citedin the form of copiable text
> is too lazy to listen/look and type them up
> calls me a baby
Kek

it is the President's duty to only do what is in the Constitution. Same for any other federal official, to do anything more or less than what the Constitution obliges is a breach in that sacred compact Ergo treason and punishable by nothing less than death.

Ronald Reagan
JFK
Eisenhower
Calvin Coolidge
Teddy Roosevelt

FDR is quoted as saying he admires what national socialism has done in Europe. He was a socialist in his programs were socialistic. End of story.

Obviously don't agree with the porting legal immigrants let alone citizens of the United States but what you fail to mention is that companies encouraged many more illegal immigrants than legal immigrants to come over to the US. The US must stay ethnically American and not any other nationality otherwise we don't have a nation state.

Washington
Lincoln
Eisenhower
Quincy Adams
FDR

Honorable Mentions:
Teddy Roosevelt
LBJ
Jefferson

>Hamilton
Polk
Lincoln
T. Roosevelt
Nixon

> Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington et al. were just good because of the people in their administration

Eat shit niglet

There is a major difference between great men leading others and being lead by your cabinet. George Washington lead his men through the winter of Valley Forge, Abraham Lincoln carried through a plague of bad generals, Obama showed up and let everyone else run things. Don't pretend that they're the same thing.

> If this were truly about the president and the president only, then this would just mostly devolve into a popularity contest

This is the only reason people are picking Obama. By all objective measures he was very mediocre, but because he was cool and hip and wore sunglasses everyone pretends that he was really great.

You know as well as I do that in 50 years people won't talk about Obama in the same breath as America's great presidents.

t. cuck

Obama
Clinton
Lincoln
Eisenhower
Washington