What is the cause of the north-south divide? Colonialism?

What is the cause of the north-south divide? Colonialism?

Melanin

IQ

Mysterious all the blue parts were either directly colonized by Europeans or controlled and influenced by them massively (Japan and South Korea). South America doesn't count since they're mostly still natives mixed with Europeans and negroes.

That map is bullshit and the concept of the North-South divide is for brainlets.

>iq
Not science.

>That map is bullshit and the concept of the North-South divide is for brainlets.
Why do you think that?

Because it's simplistic and assumes there are no rich countries in the so-called "global south" which is wrong. It erases the differences between southern states and paints them all with the same brush, while ignoring cases of south-south colonialism, south-south immigration or south-south exploitation. Bangladeshi immigrants exploited in the UAE don't fit into this narrative for instance.

As for the map being bullshit, you simply have to compare it with the HDI map I posted.

Literally almost all of the red countries were also colonized by European powers.

I think the question is how come the southern hemisphere never had colonial endeavours into the north. All the high HDI states in the south highlighted on your map are late relinquished colonies of the north

You understand " Bangladeshi immigrants exploited in the UAE" fit very well into the narrative behind the map. It fits well in the Marxist worldview.

Is it not truth that the global south is exploited by the north? The only exceptions you can say are countries like South Korea, which was literally founded as a nation due to US imperialism.

>South Korea is north
>North Korea is south

What exactly is this meme map trying to show? Which countries are more European?

>You understand " Bangladeshi immigrants exploited in the UAE" fit very well into the narrative behind the map.
No it doesn't. The UAE is part of the Global South despite being a wealthy magnet for immigrants. The map is arbitrary.


>It fits well in the Marxist worldview.
Marxism is not a valid economic theory.

>Is it not truth that the global south is exploited by the north?
No.

>The only exceptions you can say are countries like South Korea, which was literally founded as a nation due to US imperialism
This doesn't make sense.
What about the exploitation of Eastern Europe by the Soviets? Much of Eastern Europe is very poor yet they are part of "the North".

Not him but it lacks nuance. The Gulf States are some of the richest countries in the world, China acts as an economic great power, the Asian-Pacific "north" states aren't north, etc. It seems like an oversimplification of first/second/third world model, which in itself is an oversimplification.

I can't think of a more meme index than HDI. It was invented by some Pakistani communist using utterly arbitrary criteria. For example measuring quality of education in mean years of schooling is brainlet tier. It also doesn't account for things like infrastructure, air/water/food quality, corruption, crime rate, taxes etc.
Especially Latin Americans gobble that HDI shit up like it's gospel for some reason. Probably because they're fucking retards.

How is Chile a recently reliquished colony? Independence was in 1813. Wealthy society with European culture.
Wealthier than "Global North" Turkey or the Balkans anyway.

Stop defending your meme map.

Pick whatever criteria you wish, OP map is bullshit and arbitrary

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I wasn't talking about that, I was talking SPECIFICALLY about HDI. Idiot. Unless you have anything to say about that, don't reply to me.

Probably the equator.

>Being this butthurt
>Posting a non-sequitur and complaining I'm following the thread topic
KYS

Nothing you said had substance to it. Look at the state of the world. It's very clear that colonialism has left entire continents like South America ripe with problems, especially economic ones. The map is accurate and shows the damages of capitalism, sure their are exceptions, but generally speaking, no.

>following the thread topic
This should be a bannable offense and I mean that sincerely

>Much of Eastern Europe is very poor yet they are part of "the North".
Poor as in poorer than the west, which still puts them in the global upper half. Not Africa tier poor (with the exception of Ukraine which should really be nuked).

>Nothing you said had substance to it.
Not an argument. Say why.

>Look at the state of the world.
It is objectively better than ever.
See pic.

>It's very clear that colonialism has left entire continents like South America ripe with problems, especially economic ones.
The only ecobomic crisis bordering on famine in South America is Venezuela which can be blamed squarely on a communist regime.

>their are exceptions
When 1/4th of the "South" is wealthier than half of the "North" in your map I'd say the exceptions are big enough so as to disprove your aribitrary divide.

>the damages of capitalism
Prove this claim or fuck off leftypol memester

>Poor as in poorer than the west
No, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, the Balkans, Belarus (that is, "much of Eastern Europe", like I said) are objectively POOR by Global standards.

See

But much of Eastern Europe is less poor than China or the Southern Cone. Hell, all of it is poorer than the GCC.

Our point is if you try to divide the international system in two groups then you are losing a lot of nuance, to the point where discussion is useless. Which is typical of Marxist interpretations of geopolitics.

Twentieth post best post

>the Balkans
That's not a single country you fucking retard. Slovenia, Croatia and Greece are just fine. Well, Greece is insolvent but still better than anything in Africa.

Only Serbia, Bosnia and Ukraine are poorer than China.
>Southern Cone
I don't even know what that is.

>argentina is as poor as africa
someone should tell this to the bolivian illegals so they stop coming here

north-south divide is bogus

at least flip russia and the gulf states

Not everything is about economics you retard.

Your graph doesn't disprove the inequalities that has basis in the systemic nature of capitalism. It also doesn't address the issue of the third world. Imperialism.

Then give us a definition for the OP map so I can prove to you it's arbitrary and retarded

Moldova

>Imperialism
I thought imperialism made South Korea wealthy... you just said so... at least be consistent with your Marxist ramblings

Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina.

Gulf States definitely have close cooperation with the West.

no/pol/, but do we really want hundreds of millions of shitskins not dying each year?

the union of soviet socialist republics put a man in fucking space a decade after suffering the worst calamity ever visited upon a country that required the greatest effort of collective heroism in all of history, and elon musk put a car in space after decades of failure

marines + engineer brigades...

The Soviet Union also killed 20-40 million of its people. Not an argument.

You think Africa and India were never colonized by Europeans?

Argentina and Uruguay are both whiter than the US and relatively wealthy, Chile, the Gulf states, Malaysia, Singapore are also relatively wealthy, despite being non-white, non-european.

OP map is just bullshit with no source. Typical /r/mapporn/ reddit shit.

western propaganda

Why are Ukraine and Albania blue but Chile and Saudi Arabia red? I would guess that it's showing northern countries, but they have Israel blue and North Korea red, which shows that this map clearly isn't just North and South countries. I would assume that it's countries with strong Western or Northern influences, but that doesn't explain why nearly all of Latin America is red. This map is a meme

Yes it is, its reliable and predictive; that's all that's required to be scientific.

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