>The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.
>The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.
>It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.
>The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.
wtf i want all people on planet earth to be genocided except blacks now
Ayden Peterson
ridiculous
Luis Barnes
>People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population. How come researchers in this field are always so far behind the current consensus? It's been established for a while now that British people draw very little of their ancestry from Mesolithic British hunter-gatherer populations, and yet people continue to spew this shit. This goes for other Europeans as well.
Also: >Tom Booth, an archaeologist at the Natural History Museum who worked on the project, said: “It really shows up that these imaginary racial categories that we have are really very modern constructions, or very recent constructions, that really are not applicable to the past at all.” >Yoan Diekmann, a computational biologist at University College London and another member of the project’s team, agreed, saying the connection often drawn between Britishness and whiteness was “not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will change”. Fuck off.
Levi Jones
of course the original British were BLACK kings and nobles while the wh*Tes were bred as weaker, less fertile worker drones.
Ian Williams
of couse they were look at jean d ark
Matthew Brooks
>pol
>I only support Alt-Right approved science.
Luis Richardson
and this in ancient times achiles? black of couse
Dominic Miller
>pol chimpsout
Samuel Parker
is the logical conclusion they have falsified medieval times next ancient times and now prehistory jews have not shame at all
Gabriel Lee
JEWS STOP PROJECTING
Thomas Thompson
>I only support Alt-Right approved science. Actually, the Alt-Right would probably be a fan of the idea that Europeans have been genetically the same for tens of thousands of years. It doesn't exactly suit the /pol/ narrative that Europeans mostly descend from invaders that came only in the LN/BA.
Owen Nguyen
>pol embraces we wuz
lol
Modern science doesn't support there being a White Race that long ago.
Thomas Jackson
It's a lie.
Science today and especially everything dealing with the origin and development of Man is heavily politicized and subverted. All academic sources of "knowledge" today are inherently untrustworthy. They only exist to further destroy the white race and our history. You don't even have to be right wing in any capacity to see this in action.
So I'll repeat again - it's a lie. They're lying. They are being paid to lie. Every single anti-white "discovery" coming from academia is false.
Owen Phillips
>(((Modern))) science doesn't support there being a White Race that long ago.
Of course it doesn't. That isn't its purpose.
Cooper Clark
>Says don't trust modern science >Doesn't say how it knows any of this
Jace Taylor
>Modern science doesn't support there being a White Race that long ago. Perhaps, but my main issue was with the statement "It has always changed and will change" in regards to British "whiteness". This isn't true, since the British have been unmistakably "white" even in a modern sense since the Bronze Age, and the only reason the British are becoming less white in recent decades is because of mass immigration from non-white countries which was by no means inevitable. What he said is simply a lie, and judging by the tone of the rest of his comment it's quite obvious the message he's trying to push with such lies.
Jaxon Howard
why is everyone responding to this pathetic b8 thread?
this thread belongs on /pol/
Matthew Rogers
I think it has been proved that eastern hunter gatherers had the mutation for fair skin before the anatolian farmers got there
Jackson Cruz
>British cucks make a parody of a reconstruction
I rather trust the Iberian one, as they are not politically cucked like Br*tish.
Jose Cook
That's a reconstruction of a completely different individual, though.
Nolan Mitchell
>fair skin >White Race
Next you'll be calling MENAs and Orientals Whites.
David Phillips
>Nordicist nonsense P-lease
Jack Stewart
Man, they can't even hide their agenda for five minutes, can they?
Mason Price
>casting doubt fair skin making something be in the White Race makes me a Nordicist.
Sure.
Eli Nelson
Is Mr Bean not white?
Carter Diaz
wenster hunter gatherer where the same all across europe so someone is lying here reconstruction of greek whg
Brayden Parker
and this is estonian girl with 40% of their dna being the same as the that picture
>up to 10% of modern Britons descended from people like this >calling him a migrant >saying things like "the race of Britain has always changed and always will change"
This is a steaming pile of political propaganda and about ~20% science, if we're feeling generous. They at least made a passing reference to the inhabitants that had much more northern heritage, even if they referred to them as insane brutes.
Jack Turner
sardinian girl 92% dna of early farmer
look like mediterraneas doent it?
Thomas Kelly
Looks like a kike
Nathaniel Scott
europe is the mixture in different grades of this 3 people
Gavin Jackson
>Western Hunter Gatherers weren't Darkies
Sure.
Noah Miller
>darker skin >this means they were coal black, african-looking people i fucking hate this country, they'd call alfred the great a sub saharan nigger if they thought they could get away with it
Carter Stewart
so i would bet my life this is pure bulshit
Evan Wilson
white race=caucasian race/caucasoids
persians are caucasoid but are darker skinned than mongols, who are not caucasoid
Joseph Hughes
Western Jews have a lot of South European ancestry.
Jordan Myers
Both of these were Western Hunter Gatherhers. Explain me how the one in Iberia has brown skin, hair and blue eyes whereas the British reconstructed one looks like a pitch black blind Papoean.
Joshua Roberts
>african looking >only niggers can look like that
Brayden Ortiz
close enough pham
Sebastian Evans
looks like a white woman smeared in shit
Austin Powell
so yes european looked nearly the same 10000 years ago the genetic distance is the same as han chinese to the mongol
Jackson Russell
That's still a bit of an exaggeration though, if the British one had the same skin tone as the Spanish one it wouldn't be too bad. Honestly I'm surprised that they gave him as European a nose as they did, and didn't puff the lips right up.
Jordan Richardson
atlantic baltic is the blood of whg and yamna the rest is anatolian farmer
Joshua Thompson
no*dics on suicide watch
Jace Diaz
why?
Ethan Wilson
>Both of these were Western Hunter Gatherers. Cheddar Man is from 10,000 BCE, the "Spaniard" you posted is from 7,000 BCE. I think it's reasonable to assume that the genetic mix of "Western Hunter Gathers" would change over some 3,000 years.
Jackson Parker
97% european ancestry this is how they looked
Carter Bennett
>Egyptians were white >Britons were black What the fuck is going on
Jace Scott
>pretending Euros are as homogenous as Orientals
Jaxon Phillips
the distance from a mongol to a han chinese is the same as a italian to finnish people so no im not lying
Nathan Gray
japanese to chinese would be like germans to france people
Logan Flores
how they play with ignorance of the people
Eli Davis
They were dark like other WHG. They weren't black. I think black skin actually evolved just like light skin (I remember reading some studies about that). Original humans were dark but not black.
Michael Flores
Didn't know scots were Germanic, I thought they were Gaelic
Angel Lopez
The natural conclusion is that we should take in more immigrants :^)
t. Schlomo
Bentley Sanders
Only Highlanders. Lowland Scots are Germanics larping as oppressed Celts.
Aiden Bailey
yes that the only one, and the land dont have any perpetual owner
Josiah Myers
What's the difference between Picts, Caldeonians and Gaels?
Adrian Nguyen
Picts were the original (probably Celtic) inhabitants of Scotland. Caledonians were a confederation of Picts. Gaels were Celts that came to Scotland from Ireland during the Early Middle Ages and assimilated the Picts, eventually coming to inhabit most of Scotland except for the Lowlands in the South-East, which was Germanic.
Zachary Gonzalez
Because they’re different indivuduals, that’s why you look like shit even though there are probably good looking people from whatever your ethnicity is
Caleb Rodriguez
>10k years ago >Mesolithic
Also would you prefer if they had said "it really shows us that the nationalist myths of common descent are really very recent constructions, that really are not applicable to the past at all. The racial stock of the British Isles has always changed and will change."
Evan Cruz
Cor, We wuz Wite 'n shieeet, gov. Innit?
Zachary Martinez
>10k years ago >Mesolithic Correct.
And no, I wouldn't prefer that. The "racial stock" of the British Isles has been essentially unchanged since the Bell Beaker period of the Bronze Age and there is nothing to say that it has to change. Migration from non-white countries was a choice, not an inevitability of history.
Joseph Rogers
Both are wrong, skin color is supposed to be more like Indian brown. You like the Spanish one better because it just looks like a white dude with a heavy tan, but he didn't have white skin so he would have been swarthier than that.
Oliver Scott
>Cor, We wuz Wite 'n shieeet, gov. Innit? You are aware that what I wrote has been genetically proven? The vast majority of British people are descendants of populations that migrated to Britain during the Bronze Age.
Caleb Ross
reeeeeeee
Connor Lee
People who lived there before Beakers were also caucasians, so the race hasn't changed at all.
Eli Scott
>The bronze age collapse led to a total shift in populations, with black and brown europe migrating to the middle east and africa and white Afro-Asiatics moving to Europe.
AT LAST I TRULY SEE
Ian Moore
I imagine myself in Britain, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop wh*Te Anglo-Saxon dogs from advancing. We mow down wh*Te dogs but they keep coming. I shoot wh*Te dogs but I run out of arrow so I draw my sword and begin slaughtering wh*Tes, since wh*Tes are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn’t fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. wh*Tes were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see DU TARV (Belatucadnos) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in Somerset, my homeland. My BLACK Celtic brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven.
Adam Perez
>You can tell skin colour by genes >but race is a social construct
How do people believe this shit
Ian Rodriguez
>he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.
How many blacks have blue eyes?
Ethan Foster
This thread is fucking retarded. We've known that WHG had dark skin for like half a decade now and it would have been a huge surprise for everyone if the ones in Britain were pale. Pale skin comes from EHG(Eastern Hunter Gatherers) who were from Russia but also lived in Norway because of post-ice age settlement patterns.
Ayden Edwards
Brown skin does not match Britains cold climate.
A brown skinned person would likely suffer from vitamin D defeciency especially during the ice age
Elijah Thompson
Yeah they do, pic related
Matthew Lee
>Scientists believe that populations living in Europe became lighter-skinned over time because pale skin absorbs more sunlight, which is required to produce enough vitamin D. The latest findings suggest pale skin may have emerged later, possibly when the advent of farming meant people were obtaining less vitamin D though dietary sources like oily fish. Please read the article that this thread is about before you post in it.
Blake Evans
Exactly. How can you be so retarded to defend a "scientific" finding that violates such a basic human adaptation.
Adrian Cook
...
Jack Hernandez
Yes, they were from southern refugia like Portugal, Italy etc and had only recently arrived to the barren north devoid of life because it had been buried under ice for thousands of years. Maybe they would have adapted to be lighter over time but they were replaced by Neolithic farmers similar to Sardinians around 4000 BC who were already a bit lighter and more in the range of modern British variation which prominently features individuals with a Mediterranean complexion.
Dominic Lewis
How did they determine the exact tonality of the skin?
Sebastian Perez
Are you implying that evolution only takes 8000 years? Wew WE WUZ people are utterly retarded
Jeremiah Watson
From association studies. They lacked genes which are almost fixed in modern Europeans(>97%) and which correlate with lighter skin in mixed race individuals.
Nolan Torres
Look at people of mixed race and tell me that it should take more than a couple of hundred years for your descendants to have a completely different skin tone than you do. Now factor in changing environmental and dietary factors. Grow a fucking brain.
Adam Lopez
Doesn't that only tell us that they are not white? Did they found the genes for chocolate brown too or is the darkness mostly a guess?
Gavin Reyes
I don't think you understand how evolution works.
Xavier Reed
>EHG CHG already had alleles for light skin.
Gavin Scott
Well yes, I suppose if you put it that way they did. They had the ancestral alleles shared by for example Papuans and Nigerians while modern Europeans have the derived alleles. That doesn't mean they were quite as dark as Papuans and Nigerians however it puts them outside modern European variation.
Anthony Rodriguez
>Early man wasn't white when he rapidly made his way from Africa into Europe >People are chimping out over this
Jason Phillips
Interesting
Are they the ancestrals of modern britons or have they been completely replaced?
Jaxson Sanders
Well that was obvious. Isn't the agreed theory that whiteness happened over time?
Nicholas Perez
I get that Mesolithic Europeans probably had pretty dark skin, like hunter gatherers in general, but I don't get why the did the reconstruction with this chocolate colour. They weren't tropical ffs! They were Eurasians living at a high latitude, surely say, Native American skin tone would be a better approximation than black like a tropical Sub-Saharan African or Dravidian.
Also the hair and beard are fucking ridiculous. Just do either clean shaven or a proper beard rather than this patchy pubescent goatee. As for the hair, either show it natural or show it groomed, not with messy trimmed fringe like a college feminist. Primitive people across the world put effort into grooming - so if you do a good reconstruction with any grooming at all, do it well ffs! Or let it natural, not this half assed shit.