Who else /depression/ here?

>So besides exercise and diet, what else has helped you?

mk 677, gives me godlike sleep and makes me feel refreshed every morning

Fresh air
Music
The occasional cigar

Can get it from any pharmacy or drugstore or vitamin store. Even many bigbox stores.
But I would suggest getting it from a place or someone who grows or gathers it themselves.

Watching Sam Hyde videos but that came before the lifting for me

> normies giving advice on depression

>It's pretty much established that the pharma Jew is a way to keep sheep in line

For a board that supposedly falls over itself posting scientific studies at the drop off a hat that's quite a statement. Real talk: a combination of medication and behavioral therapy are the best tools we have for combating depression. Exercise is just icing on the cake. Can you beat depression without any of those tootls? Yeah. But it's going to be a hell of a lot harder for most. Do what you want OP but if you're still running in place mentally by this time next year I suggest you rethink how you want to handle this fight.

It's helped me.

>Real talk: a combination of medication and behavioral therapy are the best tools we have for combating depression.
If you've got the time, after Norman Doidge published The Brain That Changes Itslef, TVOntario had him on The Agenda for a week to discuss topics relating to mind and its connection with the body
youtube.com/watch?v=z20jbPTFAdw
This is the first one

When I'm going through a rough patch I take up as much overtime going at work as possible - sometimes smashing 2-3/4 weeks in a row with no weekends.

Preoccupation is key. If I'm left to my own devices, I force myself to work the garden or pick up a game, or go socialise with the few home buddies I have. Naturally I gym too, but outside of 4 days a week that's about it.

If I stop I get depressed and getting motivated to start again is a pain in the ass, so I don't let myself stop, until I feel good enough to do so.

I refuse to take meds - people go through far worse shit than we do guys. Find a way to deal with it.

Check out mirtazapine, I've been on around 15 antidepressants and none of them showed anything promising, I essentially lost hope in pharmaceuticals. This pill has brought me sanity.

>walking meditation
Is that like actual meditation because I can't imagine myself having the level of observation to walk whilst meditating

>I refuse to take meds - people go through far worse shit than we do guys. Find a way to deal with it.
So what do you do besides "forcing yourself"? How do you "force yourself"?

I'm scared of ADs, TCAs, and anti-psychotics. The people I know have had diminishing returns and worse side-effects as time progressed until they relied on it just to function and going without for a day meant an episode

How does a pill actually:

1. get a good job
2. get a car / house / dog
3. get a gf / get your ex to come back
4. etc.

you get the idea, just improve your life and you will be fine without pills

the amount of ppl with "clinical" depression due to "signal substance imbalances" is an extremely tiny fraction of the population (i.e. not you). And this is even disregarding the fact that of course having a shitty life will result in lower levels of happy hormones.. you are supposed to interpret that as a signal to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, to achieve the things you want, desu

The way I remember it being described is that you walk while you let your mind wander and the thoughts and feelings that you experience while walking flow around and over you.

You think about each step as your thoughts and feelings and senses run around you over and through you. Never grasping them, only letting them pass.

Each footfall is a reminder. Each step tells you to concentrate on the now.

The last couple of posts are my feelings on it. I haven't done it exactly in a while and have just been using long walks as a way to work through some thoughts rather then calm my mind.

They should teach classes about this kind of stuff so I/others dont have to reinvent the wheel every fucking time.

This.

daily exercise and moderate DUDEWEEDLMAO is what helped me out of depression

It's in the water, user. and the air. We live in a sea of poison. The apocalypse is near.

>tfw you cured my depression

People learning basic health, fitness, and nutrition is bad for business.

There's a reason why good infographics "fell out of favor".

sort yourself out, for real. Don't make habits out of anything rewarding like vidya or fapping. re-sensitize your brain to real rewards and learn to enjoy small things. Don't drink or do drugs because you wont be happy the rest of the time, and you wont be happy doing them constantly.

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

Unlike most here, working out does not help me, and If I'm in a bad state of mind I cant work out.

I try to avoid alcohol, lean on my friends when I really need to and use what I learned in CBT.

Currently I tried going to CBT but I didnt find that it was working for "offense" just defense so I stopped going for now. I'm really against/worried about taking meds. I really don't want to deal with any side effects or being a zombie I cant afford that right now.

real question is
>who here NOT depressed?

i know what i need to do
i need to put myself out there
join some normie organizations or clubs
meet new people

but i just cant get myself to give enough shit to do it
yet i continue to watch normie people with normie friends and their normie laughters with normie gfs and i still do envy them

im stuck in this limbo purgatory where i dont give a shit enough to do what i need to do to make real relationships, but still human enough to crave them

This is going to sound edgy but hate, anger and rage is very useful to get you to feel alive and mask/cure the depression.

Anyone wanna share their experiences with CBT? I'm really interested

Yeah, I usually have this baseline and don't really deviate from it one way or the other

I read a really fucking cheesy self-help book called "The Teachings Of Abraham" by Esther and Jerry Hicks. The big idea is that each thought is either:

* In alignment
* Not in alignment

By only focusing on things that make you feel good (regardless of "truthiness") then that'll improve your mood. It sounds dumb, and it is. But hey if it works then maybe it isn't dumb.

So it's good that you feel miserable! That's a message from your inner being that what you are focusing upon is not in alignment with the true self. You need to release that negative belief and replace it with a better feeling one.

>I got that feeling somebody killed me
>I got that feeling zero feeling

anyone? plus soul crushing never stopping tension.

I'm 4 weeks in Lexapro. nothing changed. energy=low. yesterday added Wellbutrin. will wait few more weeks

train everyday. today went twice to a gym

Seek professional help and medication.
CBT.
Socialization.
Meaningful vocation.
Family.
Hobbies.
Conversation.

B12 (methylcobalamin) and folic acid (methylfolate)

Google "methylation protocol"

>depressed psychotic homeless communist refugee without a job gets gf
>meanwhile i'm still kissless virgin who gets nothing but disdain from girls

[desire to kill stacies intensifies]

No change at all with lexapro? I was prescribed it, but didn't wanna take it.

Reminds me, anyone read into this?
secondopinionphysician.com/five-biotypes-of-depression/

I find that morning/afternoon exposure to a bright light therapy lamp, evening blue blocking, and a low body fat percentage all have potent antidepressant effects. I feel better when I eat good food than when I eat bad food, certainly, but quantity seems to trump quality, at least for me.

Cutting back on my vices (caffeine, porn, vidya and junk food), getting more sleep, exercise, sunlight. It all helps for a little while until I am reminded of that awful feel of no gf.

xanax lads. its fucking magic

had few moments when felt actually good. even enjoyed watching some normie level shit on youtube. felt peaceful and enjoyed a present moment. don't know, maybe that's what people supposed to feel.

Psychiatrist said that Lexapro must work within a month. If it doesn't then it doesn't. however I'm reading that it starts within 4-6 weeks. so waiting

>23
>never had a gf
>never had a kiss
>been almost 2 years since a girl hugged me

fucking hell the loneliness is getting to me.

are you me

Clinical depression and generalized anxiety disorder here. I've been put on multiple antidepressants, benzodiazepines, beta blockers, antipsychotics, and mood stabilizers and they all failed (seroquel made it easier to sleep though).

My psychiatrist put me on this anticonvulsant called Gabapentin. She also put me on Ritalin recently and with these 2 drugs I no longer experience depression.

I'm probably going to write a full report on /r9k/ later this week.

Brisk walk at least 30 min every day
Sunlight
Fish oil
No caffeine
Cut down on processed shit/ sugar

This worked for me and I had shit real bad for years, I actually feel normal now

It's kinda legit. It's true that methylation issues can lead to depression but overmethylation/undermethylation is considered a meme in chronic fatigue syndrome community. Also, there is no specific recommendation for how much of each supplements you should be taking so it's easy to fuck up and make yourself feel even worse. Im on "freddd's protocol" and Im doing very well on it but its not as simple as "just take b12 bro".

You know how people say "get the fuck outside, take a walk"?
There's some simple, effective truth to that.

Like this user said, go outside, walk a little.
Observe the world not trough the eyes of a paranoid schizophrenic loser motherfucker but just a human being being out there enjoying an open space for a bit.
Go somewhere nice, bring a book, read a little, relax.
Essentially power down and recharge for a while.

user I'm just curious. How much do you exercise?

I always take walks in the night when I feel like shit. There's nothing better to get you down to earth again

honestly if you guys havent done a CLEAN run of no pmo (porn, masturbation, orgasm) for 90 days+ you really cant complain. most of u need 180+. personally if i can id do it for life, with the only orgasm i get is from girls

im on day 25. that shit is NO JOKE. try that shit out and then talk to me

>im stuck in this limbo purgatory where i dont give a shit enough to do what i need to do to make real relationships, but still human enough to crave them
user.. you described it so perfectly

I use porn as a way to cope with my loneliness though.

thats your FUCKING PROBLEM

theres nothing wrong with the pain of being lonely u RETARD. when i quit pmo it was so painful to be i broke down mentally and started believing in god. i literally pray twice a day now because of it

i was crying so i couldnt breathe. i couldnt move the entire day i was just on my bed. any song set me off, hearing females talk set me off. reading red pilled shit set me off. its GOOD TO HURT like that, it motivates you

its what motivates me to work harder, pay attention to apperance and clothing, getting Veeky Forums, etc

being lonely isnt the problem, the problem is pmo numbs you out. and dont tell me its just the porn, i masturbated 3-4 times a day and most of it was through my imagination, its orgasm

the most correct and powerful move is simply to quit pmo 90 days and see for yourself, but dont lie to yourself and say "eh, porn is fine those guys are just stupid" without actually doing it first

St. John's Wort has some pretty serious drug interactions, so if you're taking other meds be careful or check online. Make sure you buy from a good source as well, a lot of supps will sell you short and sometimes be absent of the good stuff that gives you the effect you want.

Only if you're dangerously suicidal and other medications have not helped. Mirin' them digits though.

t. med student

Ahahaha Jesus Christ man....I may be a nihilistic edgelord who despite having fun regularly can't qualm the ever growing apathy and sadness which consumes my soul but at least I've never been that fucking retarded.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_and_ball_torture

>tfw I've become too apathetic about most things to be able to manifest a hatred which I could use.

The only thing I hate is the succubus I dated and even then it isn't the type of hatred which would help me get anywhere.

>"ur so retarded XD"

shhhhhhhhh, so back to being a sad cunt faggot

I don't care

Like I said, she cheated on me and she had a fuckton of things wrong with her
> daddy issues
> anxiety
> depression
> I finished high school and wanted to do something with my life, she didn't do either
> blah blah blah
She was on a fuckton of meds. There was also self-harm which she stopped when I told her to stop being a fucking retard, threats of suicide which I again addressed by calling her retarded, etc. After we broke up she dyed her hair and started wearing a choker. I stuck my dick in crazy and learned the hard way

I look forward to few things more than a nice night walk under a clear sky. Going out right now

>father just died
>suddenly no motivation to lift

Maybe I should follow him

Lift to avenge him, user

>being out in nature
>occupying myself