I can't say this enough, if you actually want a nice chest then you NEED to do dips...

> You want your joints healthy for as long as possible to make lifting sustainable.

> Don't do one of the single best exercises to strengthen your rotator cuff, guys. You'll die.

>Don't do one of the single best exercises to strengthen your rotator cuff, guys.

You have to go back to le reddit nigger.
>muh shoulders

I fucked my upper back up a while ago. Can't do dips anymore. Is there any good alternative? To compensate I've just been doing more bench.

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I think the best is to be able to do one to two with good form. Just do sets of singles/doubles untill failure and you will get strong enough to do them quick. I was able to add two dips every week to my sets that way, in less than two months I was able to bang out 3x10 easily. A lot of dipping is form.

and I fucked my one shoulder up doing bench, doesn't mean bench press is bad for you.

Just like bench, shoulder positioning is key for both exercises.

Push ups are underrated way too much in the regulat fitness world I think. People regulate them to warmup exercise but there are plenty of ways to add weight and get strong. Really if you get hurt or have pain doing push ups you should stop going to the gym untill you get that shit sorted. Push ups are one of the best exercises for shoulder health.

Weighted dips are for morons. Ring dips on the other hand, are the single best push exercise in existence.