How do you think Soviet aesthetics would have influenced Western culture had the USSR not dissolved?

How do you think Soviet aesthetics would have influenced Western culture had the USSR not dissolved?

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Clockwork orange is a pretty nice take on that.

>Soviet aesthetics
lol the architecture and art in communism was impotent and ugly as shit

Soviet Union is the last state that produced classical Music, literature and 19th century-styled architecture.

beautiful..

well clockwork orange was 60s, right? I'm talking more as if the Cold War entered a period of detente during 90s/00s but commie bloc didn't fall.

Brutalism sucks but the West had that too. As far as visual arts and music was concerned, the Eastern Bloc was top tier in terms of creativity and aesthetics.

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I go to community college in New Haven where there is tons of Brutalist architecture and it's disgusting.

That's because it was made in America.

They wouldn't have because they would have been taboo.

>As far as visual arts and music was concerned, the Eastern Bloc was top tier in terms of creativity and aesthetics.
uHHH you mean maybe during the revolution era? I can see this being true from maybe 1915-1930, but after that it just totally went to shit. You have to be delusional not to see that basically all of soviet art and music after the 1950s was half-assed trailing behind American influence which they couldn't keep out. Especially music.

>the Eastern Bloc was top tier in terms of creativity and aesthetics
No, it wasn't.

Yes it was.Here we can see the Soviet design philosophy of using apartment blocks as a contrast to the beautiful flora and country side it inhabits. Soviet people couldn't own land or homes but millions had the fortune to live in these for low cost.

>music
Soviet renditions of "Pictures at an Exhibition" is God tier. Generally Soviets shined musically when they built off of imperial Russian culture
>art
Soviet art is just inspiring. Far more elegant than "muh shit in a can" modern art.
>trailing behind America
Something like this blows away American absurdism. And this is light hearted. Soviets were masters of melodramtic animation.
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American architecture from the Cold War era is notoriously ugly and bare bones.

Even if that were true (it's not) nothing besides the worst brutalist buildings can beat the commie blocks for ugliness and the physical embodiment of depression. They are absolute eyesores across Eastern Europe.

That's a basilica though.... you do know about Soviet church-state relations, I doubt there would be mucubaesthetic beyond anything like stalin's seven sisters.

>tfw no Soviet Space Union

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>laurel crown
Imperialist symbol of elitism and oppression

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CIA opinion

WEST: >Shit on a canvas; Postmo.
SOVIETS: >Socialist Realism; Classic.

Ok ivan time to of decide. Will you of:
Have millions of peasant be of homeless
v/s
Build ugly but sturdy household which will bring greatness to the soviet man.

A better question is how would Russian aesthetics have influenced Western culture without decades of Soviet oppression and isolationism.

What you're calling classical music is called concert music, classical music is pretty much Beethoven. Concert music is still very much so written and produced in every western country on Earth. People win GRAMMY's for original concert music every year, you're just not listening to it. Also this isn't 19th century architecture, that ended with the revolution. You're a moron

which Soviet aesthetic are you talking about? People itt are posting shit from rev. avant garde period to Perestroika. Be more specific.
Also,
>had the USSR not dissolved
Your scifi pic is appropriate for a scifi thread

You do realise that WW2 destroyed all their homes, right? They needed to build affordable housing for millions and they needed to build it fast.

those were built from the 60s onward user

the peasants were homeless because they were forced onto kolkhozes

jesus the amount of ignorance itt is astounding

Soviet culture was brilliant in lots of ways but you seem to have a pretty basic understanding of it. Some of the best culture that came out of the country was dissident samizdat and sots art, both of which actively rebelled against Soviet aesthetic orthodoxy. Even while you had great directors like Tarkovsky they were constantly harangued by the regime, Brezhnev himself walked out of Andrei Rublev and almost got one of the greatest Soviet films suppressed forever. Similar thing happened to Grossman under Khrushchev when he submitted Life and Fate, arguably the greatest Soviet novel, for publication. He was told by a politburo member that it would not be fit for publication in the USSR for 2-300 years. Not to mention Master and Margarita. But this guy is ignorant if he can't appreciate the vast cultural output of 60-80s USSR, from film (esp. animation as you said) to art to literature. And despite having no communist sympathies myself I've always been a huge fan of the official Socialist Realist aesthetic as well, so comfy.
tl;dr shit's complicated

>classical music is pretty much Beethoven
The shit you read in this board.
And the guy you were responding to was talking about Orchestral music. Not trash Pop music like what is presented at the GRAMMY.
And posting the lowest, cheapest constructions of a country is not representative of a country's architectural achievements or aesthetics. There are a lot of shitholes in the US or anywhere else for that matter.
The Soviet Union had a lot of aesthetic mouvements during it's history. Constructivism, Stalin Empire style and many more that are all completely different so boiling them down to commie blocks would either be very disingenuous or ignorant.

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Orchestral/Concert music is presented at the GRAMMY's you moron. Do you think they just stopped writing it when jazz got big? Also, hand up, wrong on Beethoven, I meant to say Mozart and Haydn. But saying orchestral music isn't around is fucking asinine, there's thousands of modern composers

Well i wouldn't know since i don't watch it. However i do know very well there is still a lot of Orchestral composers. The problems today is that they have been mostly relayed to soundtrack composer for movies or video games. The ones that still produce symphonies do not get nearly enough media attention and widespread coverage, while pop music gets all the attention by being live 24/7 on radio or on the top 40.
There is no more promotion of high class music or attempts at making the people sensitive to it. Unlike for example Peter and the wolf from Prokofiev. The point is to make money that sells regardless of quality.

By the way i'm not saying this is good or bad. Anyway there always was a divide between the popular music and the elitist music.
For example Tango was pretty big in the Soviet Union during the 30s while the State sponsored music was mostly ballets and Symphonies.
What i do regret however is the disappearance from public view of anything else than Pop music and the fact that there isn't any official high class music. The States today do not care what so ever about the arts.