This is the best Pharaoh in Egyptian history giving you a cheeky thumbs up from beyond the grave

It didn't, Herodotus interpreted a Luwian monument dedicated to a local king as an inscription about his fabled pharaoh who conquered Colchis and Anatolia, he was full of shit like most Greek writers talking about remote events. Probably he made this particular mistake because Luwians used a form of hieroglyph (Luwian hieroglyphs) which he mistook for Egyptian ones, I think he even made up a fake translation for the commemorative inscription (which was translated by modern archaeologists and of course has nothing to do with Egypt since it's a monument made by the local king of Mirah) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabel_relief

Its really interesting that history chose to venerate a propagandistic ruler like Ramses II but paid relatively little attention to Thutmose III.

He has all the workings to be considered a "great man" (succession struggles, military victories, and elaborate monuments) but something never quite materialized.

Horemheb was superior, but Thutmose was a good man.

oh, interesting. The notes of my version of Selincourt's translation are kind of jumbled on that point.
I can see how Herodotus would have mistaked that clearly Hittite soldier for an Egyptian though, considering he erroneously believed the Egyptian style of warfare was the origin of Greek Hoplite armaments.

It'a a Luwian king of the reign of Mirah, vassal of the Hittite king to be precise. Luwian and Hittite were really close languages though, kind of like Spanish and Italian.

the Egyptians, despite having an impressively long oracular record of history, were really bad about mixing up rulers and conflating individual pharaohs of the same dynasty with one another. So unless you had your symbol written on everything and your name burned into oracular memory, you were going to be progressively more and more forgotten.

Yeah, the style of armament (bow, conical helm and short spear with knee-high boots and tunic) is distinctively Hittite and early Assyrian, the cultures that actually DID influence Greek hoplite arms. So if Herodotus thought Hittite peoples were Egyptian it explains his erroneous origin of Hoplite arms.

Also funny thing, Herodotus despite being a Greek speaker had Carian ancestry, who were a sub-branch of the Luwians and yet he had no idea about the Hittites or the kingdom of Mirah

It also gives us an idea about how ancient Greeks had next zero clue about what actually took place a few centuries before they started writing down history

Sleep tightmosis

Wh*Te bois stay out, this is a BLACK thread.

Why were you so mean to your stepmom :(

Well, how well had the Luwian language survived? The Carians were subjugated by the Lydians, then the Persians at least as far back as Herodotus knew; whose to say how many other changes of hand the region went through?
Its implausible of Herodotus to have information beyond what could be confidently translated; at least in his digressions on Egypt the misinformation he spouts was widely cited and confidently available in Greek. He probably got many of his ideas on Egypt and the early Near East from Hecataeus.

It is telling that he didn't know a fucking lick of Persian, though.

Carian survived well into the 1st century bc, also Lycian like Luwian was closely related to Carian

But Lydian however wasn’t related to Luwian unlike Lycian and Carian

Good nightie, Tutsie

ah, well that's a telling bit of Hellenic superiority; the rich and prosperous Lydians were rendered by Herodotus as being implicitly Heraclidian, while the lesser tribes deeper into Anatolia were written off as nonexistant or 'impressive foreigners' (Egyptians)

She was a crossdressing abomination and the fat fuck who stole 20 years from his reign

what are your thoughts on Akhenaten and his One God?