Most important countries in all of history ranking

>Rome, Greece
>Britain, France, Spain
>Italy, Germany/HRE
>Portugal, Holland, Russia
>United States, Arabia, Ottoman Empire/Turkey, China
>Mongols, Egypt
>Sweden, Carthage, India, Japan

>china that low
>arabs that low

Actually more or less correct. China ought to be one level higher though.

>the civilization that invented paper, wheelbarrows, gunpowder, the compass and has existed for over 3000 years is less important than Poortugal
>Iran not even being on the list when fucking Japan is
>Mongols are more important than all of Indian civilization
it's shit OP

>Rome, Greece
>HRE
>Spain, Portugal
>Netherlands, China, Finngolians, Egypt
>Britain, France, Russia, Ottomans, USA
>Sweden, Carthage, India, Japan

>HRE
>more important than france, england, and spain

Purely geographic top 15 or so
Iraq
Egypt
China
Lebanon
Syria
Iran
Greece
Pakistan
Italy
Turkey
India
France
Ethiopia
Afghanistan
Poland
UK
Mexico
USA

>Mexico and Poland over Germany
wat

Why would Sweden as a modern nation be so high?

usa is the best and will always be the best

Nobel

Maybe I am just wrong but Germany was not that important except for its high quality farmland and population until the 1600's or so while Mexico has always been important though mostly just regionally due to geographic isolation with the Mayapan, Aztec, Olmec, etc.

>United States not top tier

>what is the printing press
>what is the Peace of Westphalia
>who is Johannes Kepler
>what is both world wars
People give Germany a hard time here for keks, but its effect on history post 1500 is massive. Far more massive than Mexico's.

China is irrelevant

>India, China, Rome, Greece, The Caliphate/Arabia
>Britain, France, Spain, Italy, Egypt
>Germany/HRE, Portugal, Holland, Ottoman Empire, Carthage
>Mongols, Sweden/Danes/Norwegians, Japan

>1400-1950

Why are you all memeing Japan like it wasn't largely irrelevant before the late 19th century?

>China that high

anime is pretty relevant

only good post ITT

The problem is using countries. Sumer, for example, is hugely influential - but it's not really appropriate to call them a country.

Also, if you are doing countries, Israel needs to be somewhere high on the list.

>no Russia
>fucking Carthage

russia is irrelevant backwater shithole even now
>inb4 muh communism
karl marx was a g*rman

>china is irrelevant

Italy, Britain, Spain is the holy trinity.

>Italy
The birth place of Roman Empire and Renaissance movements

>Britain
Scientific and Industrial revolution

>Spain
The very first global empire, Columbian Exchange

The rest is irrelevant

It's more irrelevant than top dogs like Rome, Britain, Germany, Spain....

It's far more significant than India, Carthage and all the other random shitholes you listed.

>It's far more significant than India,
lmao no

>Russia
Mendeleyev, Gagarin, Kurchatov, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin, etc
>India
Shitting in the streets

>china was never top dog
>what is the time period between early modern and fall of rome
>the technology that trickled down from china is what made europe a world power

>mentioning a bunch of literally whos against the birthplace of two major world religion and one of the world earliest civilization

>>what is the time period between early modern and fall of rome

Islamic caliphates and Mongol Empire

>first man in space is a literal who
>saying this when there's not been a single relevant person to come out of India who wasn't a fucking cricket player (even Buddha was a white guy from Nepal)

Also the Tang and Song dynasties, which were responsible for the invention of porcelain, the first successful tea cultivation, gunpowder, the compass, etc.

The people of napal are just confused indians
Also show the proof of buddha being born in napal

>the place where people learned how to farm is irrelevant
>the place where all 3 of those country's writing systems originates from is irrelevant
>the place where the wheel+horseback riding was invented is irrelevant
>the places where metal working was first developed are irrelevant
>the place that founded geometry is irrelevant

>Greece
Some Southeast European shithole country shouldn't be on the top of the list. One great man doesn't change the fact that the Greeks are the rape babies of Persians, Celts, Romans, Turks, Germans, etc. Can you think of a more irrelevant shithole?

After gaining some degree of independence from the Nazis, the only reason they weren't conquered by the Russians was because some agreement Stalin made with Churchill. Still they fought a years long civil war with the communists in the country. Today even with some degree of independence, they are one of the poorest countries in Europe.

I'd generally agree with keeping the Western countries at the top, but after that you should put Iran, India, and China together as they were great ancient civilizations beyond Rome. Then you can put Greece together with other eastern European countries like Russia.

>One great man
>one
>who is Euclid
>who is Plato
>who is Homer
>who is Heron
>who is Aesop
>who is Herodotus
>who is Sophocles
>who is Xenophon

>the country which started Western Civilization is irrelevant because muh "rape babies"
La Atrocidad......

Why do you people think so highly about Sweden?
All they did was building an empire that fell too quickly.
They didn't improve anything, just took western technology and beat more backwards countries with it.

>India
>Japan
what is this meme?

...

Shut the fuck up Pajeet. You're a fleck of dust and shit compared to Russia.

>even Buddha was a white guy from Nepal
No. This meme has to end. The 32 signs of a Buddha was a relic from Brahmanism that was later incorporated into Buddhism as Indian Buddhism and Buddhism merged. Brahma and Vishnu also have 32 signs.

According to the Tipiñaka the special thing about Buddha was that he seemed perfectly ordinary.

Most people would only know Pushkin and that's because he's black.

>spain higher than Germany
>holland higher than USA

>this much bully
We're not as important as Russia in the past few centuries but we've had our times.

Our influence is more potent in Asia like Russia though as we thoroughly influenced the cultures of East and South East Asia.

Greece
Egypt, Sumerians, Rome
Tyre
Hittites, Assyrians, Akkadians

All the rest

People who unironically put Scandinavians on the list should kill themselves quickly.

It is irrelevant today, and certainly for most of history. Remember that this question is about all of history not just antiquity.

The country that started Western Civilization is definitely Rome. Western Civilization had many eastern influences besides Greece like Egypt and Mesopotamia too but none of them started it. Rome did and it should be on the top accordingly.

El goblino

United States should at least be equal to Italy and Germany.

Because it isn't modern Sweden you fucktard.

japan is important because they make model of this shite web site

Why have you separated Rome and Italy?

I am confused, why is no one putting
Persia on their lists? They were a really fucking big deal.

you forgot socrates,

if by arabs he means the umayyads then I agree
chinese history is boring as fuck

>ding dong went to chang chong and fought ming mong's army of 1,000,000 men as the midnight dragon xhi xhang rained down fire from the mountain heaven blah blah blah

Because Italy is a christian shithole republic

I’ll have you know Ming Mong didn’t lost that battle, he chose to lose it to give Ding Dong a false sense of confidence

Thank you very much

apologies, I had one eye on some paint that was drying whilst I read that passage

>Protestant reformation
>Printing press
>Charlemagne
>WW1
>WW2
>The fall of Rome
>Einstein
>Beethoven
>Germany below Italy

>Rome, Greece, Egypt
>Britain, France, Germany/HRE
>China, Caliphates/Arabia
>Italy, Russia, Spain, USA, Persia
>Japan, Portugal, India, Sweden

Charlemagne was French tho

>France
>POWERGAP
>Rome
>POWERGAP
>all other "people"

>Greece

How are you this fucking retarded? Please tell me? Greece wasn't a country until the 19th centurry and they have done NOTHING notable sense then.

You brain-dead, cum-guzzling retard.

Kill yourself.

Franks are ancestrally close to Germans. He founded the HRE, too.

>Greece wasn't a country until the 19th centurry
please be bait.

It wasn't you fucking dumbass. PROVE ME WRONG!!!! OH WAIT, I"M FUCKING RIGHT!

Persia should be at the top not Egypt. Your list is just shit.

All of Indian civilization cant shit in a toilet soooo

>Australia
>Australia
>Australia
>Australia
>Australia
>Australia
>Australia