Does love exsit, Veeky Forums?

Yes, but not for you.

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Meatloaf is inconsistent on that

Yes, but it isn't what is perpetuated in mass media.

Love isn't a feeling, but a nurtured communion, that for which the feelings are just a more or less fertile soil.

P.s. Also, lesbian (or homosexual) love doesn't exist - just sex and nothing more.

I and people at /u/ would like to have a word with you.

And how does some cartoon porn (mostly consumed by males to begin with) contradict it?

Love is in fact a cross cultural phenomenon, and looking at the great works of love, from Plato to Rumi show us that all cultures have a very similar core idea of love. Of course neurochemical dynamics and series of cortical activations and deactivations mediate how we fall in love and how love is maintained, but at the core is some inherited neural concept.

Absolutely incorrect. Homosexual love elicits activity in the same set of cortical nuclei as heterosexual love. A three way interaction between attractiveness, sex and sexual orientation exists in the medial OFC, but in general homosexual love functions exactly the same.

I wasn't being serious.
I agree with your statement.
Real life homosexuaity is far from fictional portrayal of love in Asian entertainment industry..

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But you can't deny that heterosexual and homosexual couples are different. They differ in stability, the average number of partners each partner has been with on average, higher rate of STDs etc.

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Nobody can deny that infatuation or sexual attraction exists. However, since love is such a hard word to define, people tend to reduce it to their cultural indoctrination, e.g love is meeting someone you like, falling in love, marrying them, having children and staying married until you die. Which is obviously the fiction of love in the West.

In practice love tends to whither if it isn't acted upon properly.

Only between man and a women.

No, but i want it to exist...

>love is falling in love

Whoa there Plato, dumb it down for me

Let's be fair, love is not just one feeling nor is there just one form of love. Platonic, parental etc. However, sexual attraction =/= love.
If people fuck around because of hedonistic desires, that can hardly be considered love of any kind.

I've disavowed it. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in it.
Tell me Veeky Forums, what do you think was the most romantic period in history?
That's probably not clear, so let's describe its antithesis, in hopes that it will become clearer. I've heard it said that we live in the most a-romantic era. Friends never cease to tell me about how exhausting hookup culture is. They say it seems to hard to commit to a relationship, and most people are quick to flee at the first sign of something serious. Which, in the words of one of my buds, "shouldn't really be too surprising, because we're just using each other like meat." They feel like they can't reply too quickly to texts, or it seems like they're too clingy or eager. Nor can they reply too slowly, to make it seem like they're disinterested. In general, they just feel like they can't be genuine. It honestly sounds like an enormous romance killer to me. I'm glad I don't use social media.
Young people have always been using eachother for sex, but that was long before the advent of social media. Historically, they actually had to talk with one another. Even if that talking was done drunk, at some party that constituted a borderline orgy. Maybe a literal one.
This whole situation has been brought about by social and technological factors. So, when and where did culture and technology combine to form the most romantic era?

>Tell me Veeky Forums, what do you think was the most romantic period in history?
That's probably a bit subjective, but I would say the most romantic period was during the Italian Renaissance.

The modern era is the most romantic, but you need to play your cards right.

No, only lust and desire for reproduction

Lesbians are a male sexual fantasy that is so prevalent in media and culture that we've forced it on vulnerable women who think that it is a legitimate lifestyle choice.
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>who is Sappho?

A male fantasy.

So you are saying Sappho never existed, and if the person did exist, it was a man that wrote all the poems to satisfy his ancient yuri fantasies?

I'm saying that most of Sappho's lesbian poetry was "translated" by English Romantics with yuri fantasies. The idea that Sappho was a lesbian is so ingrained in Western and particularly English-speaking culture that it's impossible to separate fantasy from reality, just like the Ancient Athenian perspective dominates our modern understanding of Greek culture.

A valid argument. I have to agree with you on that, however, I disagree with the idea that:
>Lesbians are a male sexual fantasy that is so prevalent in media and culture that we've forced it on vulnerable women who think that it is a legitimate lifestyle choice.
What it then mean for homosexual men? Are they also just a female fantasy that was forced onto men?

Homosexuality is a product of the tight male bonds that most societies strictly encourage.

I am not talking love as in sensual attraction. I am talking as in lifelong romantic commitment. All there is to homosexual love is, indeed, the mentioned lustful attraction.

So you say that male homosexuals are created when two men are very close (best friends and all of that) and the society pushes them to get intimate and that lesbians are created purely because males have yuri fantasies about girls making out, so they force this idea onto women and some of them comfort to that idea and turn yuri.
Honestly... No, if you disregard to social encouragement or completely cut it out, you would still end up with some people being queer.

>No, if you disregard to social encouragement or completely cut it out, you would still end up with some people being queer.
I don't think there's any proof for that statement. It's impossible to separate society from sexuality and identity.

I believe that if you made tests by placing several groups of people in a closed environment where they grew from childhood to adulthood (meaning that there is not any contact with the human society as a whole), you would end up with some people being gay.

What is love?

bby don't hurt me

We know very little about meatloaf, but we know he won't do that

Again, the same cortical nuclei and systems of neurotransmitters which regulate hetero love, both erotic and attachment processes (i.e. the formation of a pair bond), are the same in homosexual love.

Any differences are due to societal influences. Gay culture is more promiscuous as persecution in society lead gay men and women to seek transient sexual encounters rather than committed relationships.

Best historical love stories? Layla and Majnun?

I love you, user.

it´s an emotional bonding originated in the mother-baby relationship, which reflects on the father

no

Only between two cute girls.