Next crisis

So when do you guys see the next global crisis arising? And why of course.

>state debt is massive around the globe
>stocks are waaay over valued in developed economies
>fixed income yields have never been so low
>growth and inflation are non existent
>investors are scrambling for decent returns
>CBs will start reducing QE in upcoming years
>no traditional tools to fight a potential new crisis as interest rates are already in the gutter

Yeah, next one will hit hard, 2008 was pussy shit compared to this one. We are hitting the limits of the standard economic model, what's after to replace it nobody knows.

>Literally very interesting thread
>no one pays attention to it
>Veeky Forums aka /crypto/

As I see it it's gonna collapse when the interest rates are finally increased.

Too busy refreshing my blockfolio bud

We're gonna see the rise of a new fascist party

chinese stock market is pants on head retarded make-believe shit and it's gonna collapse completely when people see a crack their government can't hide, triggering a worldwide depression that'll make great depression look like child play

learn how to cook cheap food that's all I'm gonna say lads

In a couple years as Britain struggles with brexit, the EU falls apart, and the fed tries to pay off the bonds from 2008 while inflation and deflation are literally out of control globally.

>MFW i live in germany

You guys think BTC will suffer when the FED raises its rates?

>The EU meme
A bunch of completely different countries, both culturally and economically, jammed into a firm socialist partnership, where the richer countries support the weaker and poor economies.
The amount of inefficiency due to massive centralization is staggering.
>"The EU is like the US only the US states are countries in the EU"
Complete next level bs of the highest order. NL has nothing to do with Spain.
The EU has already proven itself to be unable to function during crises: muh financial crises, muh refugees, muh immigrants, muh greece.
The EU is so fucking fragile that it will basically collapse if a country leaves: "let's make an example out of the UK for being an insolent child!!"

The entire house of cards is going to collapse when one of the following three things happen:

1 - Next financial crisis
2 - An actual rightwinged party (not the half ass bs such as the VVD in NL, no an actual conservative party) wins the election in any of the Western EU countries
3 - Poland or Hungary leaves

The EU was doomed to fail the moment it came in existence. I am not a market specialist, nor an economist, I read and I think. The above is imo a logical deduction of what has happened so far.

>new

China is a net importer of food user. Theyre single handedly responsible for the increase in food prices across almost every catagory. From wine to pork everythings been pumped up with Chinese cash a Chinese stock market in economic crash would at least in the short and medium-term smash food prices to the cheapest you've ever seen them probably in your adult life long-term is another story that's up in the air

this
and you'd probably be surprised how many of your friends/neighbors/coworkers are members. I know for an absolute fact that there is at least one...organization...that's actively investing in crypto as a way to fund various activities. Business is good right now too, as your average urban youth doesn't know that you can use a cell phone for anything besides calling the snowman or taking video of street fights.

I think everyone in crypto is aware of this, hence the reason they're in crypto. I feel bad for the people who are introduced to politics through bitcoin

In exactly 11 months and two weeks we're going to be partying like it's 1929.

How so?

Financial crashes always happen mid-October for some reason. We dodged the bullet this year, but the market is clearly irrational and unsustainable, so there is a 70% chance that it will happen next year.

hey bud, look, i have to remind you again: what we discuss at bilderberg is confidential. we don't appreciate you leaking info like this on Veeky Forums

Why 70%?

Nothing is ever certain. The market is often "irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

What'll you guys be buying when the next crisis comes?

nah this one is going to run all the way to 2022, september of. every 7 years lest we forget...

When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross

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bitbean

Well the next crisis doesn’t seem to come in the next few months, as everything looks good now. I’m from Finland and companies are reporting better results and growth all the time for one and a half years now. Recently, profit growth has been stabilizing as costs are growing all over the world. I don’t know how EU or USA are doing growth-wise, but you can certainly see some industries performing well above others. For example tech, gaming, VR & AI as well as paper and pulp.

Low and rising interest rates would suggest that there is a long road ahead before interest rates become too high to not be sustained by companies. Still, there is a chance that the economy collapses even at these lower rates. This might happen because of problems in China, as mentioned earlier in the thread, or India, or even EU or US, who knows.

EU certainly is in a bit of a trouble as some smaller countries are dragging behind the developed ones (Germany, France, BeNeLux, Switzerland, Austria, Scandinavia). That being said, countries with troubles should receive less help, as the more help they get from the centralized organization and ECB and IMF, the more they dare to disregard their problems and ask for more money (“Let’s see how much we can pump free money from there”). Countries who can’t handle their own problems should be let to collapse, no matter how inhumane that would be to the citizens. In that sense, Finland also should fix our own unsustainable society issues.

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If, and when, the next big collapse happens, money tends to flow to safe havens, as always before. Only this time, there are more options than gold. Cryptos and bitcoin especially could be, and I hope so, regarded as safe havens, so they might very well gain hugely (1 BTC = 50k/100k/500k €) if money gets dumped there. This makes cryptos more popular and boosts growth in the blockchain industry, hopefully developing better alternatives/more developed versions of blockchain. This is when you need to be ready to make the transition to the new tech despite massive gains in bitcoin. For now, buy and hold for the win (and not just cryptos, consider other instruments too).

I'm expecting the earliest for the next crash to be one year from now (Fall 2018), but the overall global situation should be assessed again monthly, so the expectations may be very different in the Spring, six months from now.

Yep money won't work after this collapse. Also every single time the stock market has boomed like it is right now. A massive crash has followed.

And more importantly. How do we profit from it?

I wish one of you happeningfags could've told me in /pol/ that crypto is our weapon against the jews and the collapse brah, back in january. I would've bought for sure. Fuck you

t. ex happeningfag

Own a servo farm and billions in the stock market right now.

> and not just cryptos, consider other instruments too).

Like what other instruments?

real estate

No real estate will get crushed during the collapse. It's after a collapse you stock up on real estate. You buy the hedge leading up to the crash, in this case crypto, or options if your feeling ballsy. Then when the crash happens you buy value producing assets preferably necessities. These companies have been hit and are now undervalued while money flees to "Safe havens". These value producing assets go up and become over valued in the next cycle.

The EU may have been poorly conceived and doomed from the start but that doesn't mean its collapse won't be destabilizing (brexit already showed that).

real estate in western cities is more overvalued than God's asshole. In the country side Americans have it nicer but in countries where public transport actually exists houses are overvalued there as well.

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