This absolute meme of an Empire was created by a French Emperor (Charlemagne) and destroyed by a French Emperor...

This absolute meme of an Empire was created by a French Emperor (Charlemagne) and destroyed by a French Emperor (Napoleon)

How ironic

The idea of being “French” didn’t exist in the early 9th century. The Franks were Germanic through and through, and saw themselves as such.

So why did they enjoy massacring their fellow Germanic Saxons?

*Pagan* Saxons. They wouldn’t have massacred them if they were Christian.

Your picture is of the Saxon-created holy roman empire, not even Charlemagne's empire. The Ottonians were Germanic Saxons.

Pan-German nationalism wouldn't arrive for about a millennium you nigger retard

No it wasn't

France starts with Chlodwig

Yes it does

>Napoleone di Buonaparte
>French

Burn down /int/ and gas all /int/posters

>charlemagne
>french
no

>hre
>meme
pls no

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>Karl der Große
>Napoleon (Italian)
>french

The two greatest frenchmen weren’t even french how ironic

Karl the great
>french
Napoleon
>french
Nice bait

Why did the American Revolution happen if the bongs and the burgers were both Anglos?

>He shares half of haplotype with us, pure blooded german king

I spit out my water, user.

You motherfucker I nearly choked on the cracker I was eating.
>Actual name was Karl De Grosse
>French
Bait

There were no such a thing thing a "French" back then. The frankish people haven't been latinised yet. Napoleon was Corsican. What dou you mean hre was meme? Meme is just a world for a piece of idea.

>(((/int/ellectuals)))

Fuckinh ESLs...

Greatest national heroes seldom are from the country they're associated with

Charlemagne was neither French not German (but Belgian)
Richard Lionheart wasn't English (but French)
Charles V wasn't Spanish (but German)
Napoleon wasn't French (but Italian)
Hitler wasn't German (but Austrian of Italian ancestry)
Stalin wasn't Russian (but Georgian)

>and saw themselves as such
They were and saw themselves as Gauls and (rightfully) despised German mongrels

The Life of Charlemagne, 883/4, The Monk of Saint Gall
>Then too the kings of the Franks or Gauls began to decay in power because they had slain Saint Didier, Bishop of Vienna, and had expelled those most holy visitors, Columban and Gall.

so they saw themselves as Franks, and not as Germanics?

Charlemagne saw himself as a Holy Roman and despised both krauts and frogs

lies. Charlemagne was of an unbroken line stretching back to ancient Troy, undiluted by g*rmanic ichor

Franks were German.

Charles the V wasn't German, he was Dutch as he was born in Flanders. Even though he was a polygot he knew German the least.

>Even though he was a polygot he knew German the least.

Wrong
He knew German very well as he needed it everytime he drove his horse

Wrong
The only germans with a bit of French blood are the Alsatians.

>So why did they enjoy massacring their fellow Germanic Saxons?

>Napoleon isn't french because he was born in a french territory that was new and culturally distinct, despite the fact that in action he was as french as one could be and put France first

When is this fucking brainlet shit going to die? Even Italians acknowledge Napoleon was french. Pretty sure you're a kraut, bong, or worse, a r*yalist.

And the French are partly German. Why is that so hard to understand?

>Karl der Große
German
>Buonaparte
Italian

> ALL DA ANGLO LORDS N KNIGHTS WUZ FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!
>b-b-but Napoleone di Buonaparte was a Frenchman!
You need to pick one

>Franks were German.

The Kings of England between 1066 and the HYW are French because they spoke French and lived in French culture, having never bothered to assimilate
But those that were assimilated (like Henry V) were English, despite their French blood

Napoleon grew up in a French military school and spoke French, thus he was French despite his Italian blood

>"As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me"

Croats, all of them.

Charlemange WAS French you Krautistic Krautaboo.

And HRE was an irrelevant, pathetic shithole which repeadedly got BTFO, until it unified under Balto-Slavic Prussia.

Why all this arguing over whether Napoleon was French? The OP only called him a "French Emperor" which is true regardless of whether or not he personally was French. Just because he was Corsican doesn't mean he wasn't Emperor of the French.

Well, in idea, it was holy, roman and empire.
In practice, not so much.

You can't be real ruler of the country if you aren't from the same nation. This is why Obama barely counts as president.

>Emperor of the French.
He was Emperor of the Gauls and king of Italy* actually

*Imperator Gallorum et Rex Italiae

>Napoleon's angsty teenage years is representative of his whole life

>Napoleon is french

>nabby wuz etalyen

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>Napoleon Bonaparte was Corsican

Try to justify grossgermania to the largest extent possible.

It is a pity the Reich and Byzantines didn't cooperate more

At one point they were trying to marry into each other's line of succession but negotiations broke down, especially over religion and Naples/Rome, which was claimed by both

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calm down