ITT: Things normies say that makes you vomit in your mouth

Good self-reflecting you adamant illiterate

>The Crusades were a horrible act of aggression from Europe
Every single person that says this are also people who think "the crusades" are a single event and just know that it's Europe vs. Arabs. High school education barely even mentions them so it's not even indoctrinated at a young age

The Crusades were not about money or land. Most Crusaders who survived the Crusades returned to Europe. And Crusades were not profitable. They were very expensive.

>mfw every time some soyboy faggot starts lecturing me on what the crusaders were after an islamic terrorist attack happens

Stop talking about the Crusades as a collective, like you know dick about them
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople_(1204)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Zara

> Islam did nothing for science!
This one is just pure brain death.

>the actions of the Crusaders thus directly accelerated the collapse of Christendom in the east, and in the long run facilitated the expansion of Islam into Europe.
wh*tes are their own greatest enemy

>And the 4th Crusade was a Latin v. Orthodox Holy war

Well Islam is just a religion so...
Unless ofcourse you mean muslims

>killing jews
>ever not justified
Deus Vult, Moische

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epic, simply epic!

>The Crusades were all about religion

>If it was about religion why did they attack people of other religions?

>all the crusades were about the same thing

As long as we remove kebab it's all good.

Because you're still wrong.

No idea why I wrote because

irl the Crusaders chopped off a piece of kebab and skewerd the entire Christian east into a big round Döner

Eastern Christians betrayed the Latins by allying with the Turks. Latins BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM! They deserved it for being heretics and allying with Muslims.

>teutons were homicidal maniacs

So crusaders sacked two Christian cities on one crusade, so what?

Can you prove that the participants in the Fourth Crusade explicitly set out to sack Zara and Constantinople for financial reasons?

Also, they Venetians sacked those cities to recover the cost of building the fleet they had prepared for the Crusade after the Crusaders that showed up were unable to pay. EVEN AFTER SACKING THE CITIES, THEY WERE STILL OPERATING AT A LOSS!

but yeah totally in it for the "money and land."

yes yes GOOD WORK YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY KYS

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>Being this Reddit

>Le 4th cursade wa bad XD

Fuck off please

You're five years too late, The Crusades are now about whitey's instinctive genocidal loathing for anything with a tan.

>muslims commit terrorism because of the crusades

>Stalin killed more people than Hitler

>break the shield of Europe into little pieces for some colonies
>Balkans get overrun by Turks
>Turks refuse to trade with Christians
>realise the magnitude of their fuck up and try to bail out Byzantium at the 11th hour
>fail
>lose all your trade with the east
>lose all your colonies
>become an irrelevant backwater as trade has headed west
>become a piece of territory to be passed around between France, Austria and Italy
At least the Romans went down fighting.

The last Emperor’s death is so fucking sad..
”The city is fallen and I am still alive”, you know he just wanted to die then

>>The Crusades were about money and land! Religion was just a pretext!
If so, why they didn't accepted the pope as their king after the siege of Antioch? Checkmate autists!
Emicho doesn't give a flying fuck about pagans.

>The Bishop of Rome should directly rule Christian lands

>the Soviets could've beaten the Germans alone!

>there is no Socialism in Europe today

>Dude France are a bunch of surrender monkeys lmao zero French military victories brah!

This is completely true though. They essentially did beat them alone

fpbp

th crusade
Byzantium got off easy, dandolo did nothing wrong

He BEAT THE SHIT out of those schismatic fucks!

Only thing he did was wrong was not getting more.

Jerusalem was a religious reason, but all the leaders of the 1st Crusade carving out their own kingdoms there was not. They had made oaths to return all lands back to the Byzantines. Hell Baldwin took the Kingdom of Edessa when it was ruled by a Christian ruler.

>things that never happened

It frustrates me when I see people say the Islamic golden age is a myth. I suppose Alhambra just built itself?

It would have cost millions of more lives than it did, but yes I think they could have beaten Germany on their own. Once the Germans failed to win in 1941 they were finished. They simply had no answer to the Soviet's pools of human and mineral resources.

>They had made oaths to return all lands back to the Byzantines.

BUT the Byzantines bailed on the siege of Antioch because they thought the Crusaders would be defeated thus invaliding that oath.

It's not so much a myth as a complete misnomer, calling it "Islamic" is complete bullshit, islam had almost nothing to do with why it happened, and as such attributing it to islam only serves the purpose of trying to give credence to the backwards religion that is islam

>implying the "what about the crusades?!" meme isnt brought up whenever you discuss islamic terrorism with a leftwinger

American supplies were mainly trucks and oil, without that the soviets couldn't have advanced so quickly into europe, but the germans still had no chance.

I am indeed implying that.

>literal nobodies only chance for being someone
>betray the emperor, Sicily and the pope
>got massacred because sacked Muslim pilgrims to Mecca
>muh religion will justify it
Who expected this gonna end well? Probably your pic related is the answer. :^)

Persians did as they would have done without Islam, Arabs didn't do a whole lot. At least they sat on Greek achievements and didn't destroy them.

Never forget the Holomodor!

Normies wouldn't say that though, they are the first ones to blame the crusades on muh christianity
This sounds more like something a marxist would say

the political stability that the caliphate brought cannot be denied as a factor for scientific advancement, before Islamic unification the entire MENA was engulfed in tribal warfare

> uhh, Iraq war was about oil, dummie, I wonder who we will invade next xD

>The Crusades were about money
EVERYTHING is about money you naïve fuck.

>Literal nobodies
>Duke of Lower Lorraine
>Duke of Narbonne
>Duke of Normandy
>Prince of Taranto

When the fuck do normies say the crusades weren't about religion?
The crusades were really about defending europe from muslims who were invading north and cutting everyones heads off.

>The Knights Templar
>Spartans
>guerrilla tactics in the revolutionary war
>Vikings
>Aztec vs Egypt vs Malaysia pyramids
>Stone hedge
>Random history channel shows about a new world site but it's really just wrong crazy ideas being presented untill the truth comes out, that no Vikings did not lead the knights Templar into Wisconsin to burry Egyptian tablets that predicted jesus.
>Anything to do with somehow sharecropping bringing a closeness to 'blackness' and somehow in 2018 people still remember this...?
>People who ignore the relevant fields of studies own definition for something to create a 'thought discussion' where they happen to have a deep idea about what is nature anyway?

What was their war material production numbers again?

>>guerrilla tactics in the revolutionary war
What's wrong with that?

>Latins BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!
What are you talking about?
They took a sliver of the Holy Land, and got driven out some time later.

An excommunicated french count managed to take back way more land than the crusades ever did, with some boring ass diplomacy.

Nitpicking won't help either.

t. somebody who's never actually studied the Crusades.

>>literal nobodies only chance for being someone
What in the fuck...

The leaders of the first Crusade were some of the strongest nobles in Europe.

The Count of Toulouse was one of the richest men in France.
The Count of Flanders was THE richest man in France.
The Duke of Normandy was the eldest son of William the Conqueror (another son inherited England)
Bohemond was Prince of Taranto, son of the Robert Guisgard
The first king of Jerusalem ended up being the Duke of Lorraine

>Implying 19th century capitalist ideals of materialism can be applied to everything that has ever happened in the millennia before capitalism or materialism existed
>Being this retarded

>Persians did as they would have done without Islam
Name these Persian intellectuals before Islam then.

Talking about the 4th Crusade and Norman invasions of Byzantine empire. Where Latin warriors fucking demolished schismatic Muslim-loving heretics.

>Social democracies are socialist

>materialism only exists now
a hardy kek

The Crusades were both about money/land and religion. The distinction wasn't as clean as it is today. The acquisition of land considered Biblically significant was an important goal for a Christian population that considered ownership of holy relics to be a matter of life and death. Many later Crusades involved the politics of titles as well as both accumulation of finances through special taxes (even if they never launched) and as legal protection of individual crusaders and their estates from ongoing disputes and debts.

Several of the First Crusades princes were especially interested in carving out their own principalities from the start, and generally disagreed over whether they should be independent or rule as Byzantine vassals. That didn't mean they weren't expecting to complete a pilgrimage to Jerusalem at the same time.

Everything in pic related

99% of the "aztec" pyramids they probably post aren't even aztec. Actually, since most people use "Aztec" to refer to the Mexica in particular, by that logic, there's ooutright zero "Aztec" pyramids left, other then the small amounts of ruins left at the Templo Mayor site which is really a pyrramid sized hole and some of the underlying structure more then anything else.

If you expand "Aztec" to mean "anythiing tthat was in triple alliance cities or tributary ones", then there's a few, such as the Santa Cecilia Acatitlan pyramid

>schismatic
funny coming from catholics

"Peter you are the rock upon which I shall build my church."

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