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How did they turn from the most militarily advanced in europe to least advanced ones?

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>militarily advanced
That's literally all they were, their biggest achievement was blobbing their empire without essence. Shit management, shit infrastructure, shit development, shit industry, shit agriculture, shit laws, shit relations. That's why every single one of their subjects rebelled, that's why there were countless uprisings within the empire, that's why they became they useless clay giant until Ataturk completely changed everything and that's why the whole area is poor and unstable.

Once the knowledge of their predecessors ran out, they were left to their own "culture" and abilities.

Islam is cancer.

cry more yt boy

Ottoman Empire was literally Wakanda irl

Yes, poor and unstable,

Rise of infantry armies reduced the effectiveness of their military as it was geared towards fighting cavalry. After this they pretty much relied on their superior supply systems to stay on top, but that only gave them borrowed time.
Also their advance into Europe was pretty much halted when they hit Europe's strongest power bloc: the Habsburgs. They were simply too powerful to take out.
Also prosperity might have been their downfall: during the 18th century they decided to concentrate on economic rather than territorial expansion, this went well until the Russians attacked and by that point their relative pacifism had them really lagging behind in military technology. This defeat was a shock for them.

>defeating a weak on its bring of death empire
>doing the same with minor kingdoms
>never contribute anything to humanity
w-w are a great empire.

inbreeding

They didnt TURKED enough of Europe to have a long term presence.

wh*Toids were allowed too much power and freedom

Didn't know fucking your mother counted as inbreeding

They took the "if it works the first time, it works every time" approach after taking Constantinople.

Stop memeing, Europeans far and wide were scared shitless for centuries, plenty of prominent nobles and clergymen wrote of it.

>use superior numbers against minor states

s-stop memeing.

yeah ok

>their biggest achievement was blobbing their empire without essence.
>never contribute anything to humanity
Mehmed literally turns constantinople into rich city yet again after you crusaders sacked it during the fourth crusade, this meme need to be end.

>the absolute state of Veeky Forums
You took it. they NEVER became the least militarily advanced in europe. Rather they military are quite good, even better than some european countries. The defeat in major wars such as 1877 and Balkan Wars are caused by stupid commander/generals, poor planning and lack of qualified officers.

>they military are quite good, even better than some european countries
>stupid commander/generals, poor planning and lack of qualified officers.
Pick one, brainlet.

Is that why it existed for 600 years and also why europeans where shitting their pants about the turks coming to get them?

>nomads living in tribes are more numerous than people settled in cities

Nice retardation you got there user.

they had a massive fetish for unnecesarily huge, disfunctional and logisticaly impossible artillery pieces, most of their infantry were force recruited pesants, their primary tactics were variations on the subject of zerg rush and the only functional part of their army were spahis and janissaries, which was a large part of why the empire went to shit, since they would revolt any time anyone would try to reform the army

the reason they won as much as they did was simply that they could mass tens of thousands of calvary under one unified command, while the people they were fighting could usualy round up a few thousand each and were constantly infighting, so much so that it wasnt rare for the same group of people to join the fight on both sides just to use the occasion to settle their own dinastic or other local bullshit, or that the ones in command couldnt even make a unified decision on what to do, austrians and hungarians lost a lot because their army was often a unmanagable multi-kulti clusterfuck, venetians didnt so much fight turks as much as troll them out of possesions, various asorted balkan populations didnt realy go for winning as much as not loosing, and got politicaly and strategicaly fucked sideways since their rulers would side with the ottomans or rise up against them depending on day to day politics, and ottomans being good at diplomacy would frequently set up alliances with whichever local powers that be that could be bribed with cash or political position, as is the way of empire, where this wasnt the case they would usualy loose in the longrun or the whole army would get routed in one big massacre

since they simply refused to modernise most european armies were way more developed allready by the 1600eds

>you crusaders
>you ottomans

Where did you guys get a time travel machine?

>le ottoman zerg rush meme

Isn't this the exact battle formations of the battle of the 3 kings?

Simple, they didnt advance as fast as the rest

you could ask the same about the spanish empire, china, india or really any other country that is not france, germany, and england. These 3 countries developed modern sciences and industrialisation, so of course they left everybody else far behind.

its a naval battle

they rested on their laurels, and failed to innovate, simple

How is it possible the jews have not been mentioned after dozens of posts?
ITS ALWAYS THE JEWS!

Due to wars the Ottoman empire had a huge debt to jewish moneylenders like Rothschild. The interest payments killed its finances and eventually led to disbandment of the empire so that Rotschild gets his money.
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