How important was the USA to WWI? I know the war ended a year after it joined...

How important was the USA to WWI? I know the war ended a year after it joined, but didn't it end specifically because the United States joining when it did made the war unwinnable for Germany?

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Not sure how the entante would've fared without it but they were able to bring in food, ammo supplies, and millions of fresh reserves. Would imagine that was one of the final nails in the coffin for the depleted central powers... Waiting for them learned folks to throw down some facts and figures.

Had to save their crumb-dogged froufrou crumpet asses from the commies. If we didn't they'd be heiling Hitler for lunch and waiting in breadlines for dinner.

It's basically both sides playing magic the gathering and both players are nearly out of cards, but then one player just adds more cards to his deck. Obviously its not the best analogy, but the point is America joining ensured that the Germans would run out of manpower/supplies far before their enemies would, making the war basically unwinnable for them

it had been unwinnable for germany since the winter of 1914, americas entry shifted the end from summer 1919 to autumn 1918, and gave the germans a salve to national pride in letting them credit the americans. but it was the british and french who had done the work

It definitely scared the shit out of Germany and was a contributing factor to their surrender. When they saw the first million of their troops arrive in France they started realizing there was no way they could continue with much of their reserves already depleted. And America would just be able to keep sending more and more fresh troops over to France. Hell even the Britain and France we're scraping the bottom of their reserves.

>unwinnable for germany since the winter of 1914
Citation needed

Essentially in the sense that after Marne the Germans never had a hope in hell because the Entente just had more resources for a protracted war.
The closet they ever got was the Spring Offensive but it is unlikely that it would have succeeded even if the Americans weren't their.
As aforementioned the entry of the Americans effectively shortened the war by a year, no doubt if the war continued then plan 1919 probably would have broken through the Hindenburg line in a sort of proto-blitzkrieg fashion and caused the German army to collapse similar to the hundred days offensive.
Most likely the peace deal would have been massively harsh on the Germans as not USA to counterbalance the wrath of the French, similar to German peace in the East.
Essentially the USA was a mercy for the Germans.

Yeah as others have said, the US entering the war wasn't a decisive factor but did speed up the conclusion which is always good.

The Germans were forced somewhat into the Spring offensive by the arrival of the US and without the US there is a degree of parity on the Western front.

Do you think it's possible that, now having these significant spring-offensive men/materiel available for defence, that the central powers would have been able to maintain a stalemate? Maybe even leverage the Brest-Litovsk land's very considerable industrial and agricultural resources?

I think it's too optimistic to assume that France and the UK would have just achieved a significant breakthrough 'eventually'.

no, firstly because with the turkish collapse the allies also could redeploy more men to the west and secondly because the allies were simply becoming far too potent in the attack with the change in artillery tactics and the introduction of the tank the allies could now look forward to attacking with far greater success than for example the Somme offensive.

essentially tanks were a hard counter to the germans defenses and had plan 1919 been launched it would have succeeded

It would either be stalemate and then a gradual Entente victory, or stalemate and then a Entente breakthrough. Germany was just outmatched industrially even with Brest-Litovsk as the blockade meant that whilst Britain and France developed armoured tactics, Germans lacked sufficient resources to even produce tanks, Plus the Entente had way more man power especially considering that other theaters like the middle east were rapping up leaving even more men at the ententes disposal.
I don't think Germany had a chance after 1914.

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USA in the Great War. Timeline and numbers:

August 1914: ~50 american volunteers join the Légion Etrangère.
April 20, 1916: Escadrille de Chasse Nieuport 124 "Escadrille Américaine" (later "Escadrille Lafayette") is created and deployed at Luxeuil-les-Bains near Switzerland's border under french commandement. Initially, there were seven american pilots. Full roster included 38 pilots of which 5 were french pilots.
April 6, 1917: The United States declares war on Germany.
June 13, 1917: John Pershing, AEF commander, and 176 US soldiers arrive at Boulogne-sur-Mer.
June 26, 1917: The 1st US Division arrives at Saint-Nazaire. The french provide training and gear and weaponry for american units.
October 23, 1917: The "Big Red One" is sent in Sommerviller near Toul, a relatively calm and stable stretch of the frontline. It is the first american unit to go on the frontline in France.
November 2, 1917: First engagement. A battalion fights at Bathelémont-lès-Bauzemont. 3 KIA.
February 18, 1918: American members of the "Lafayette Escadrille" are transferred into the US Army Air Service as the 103d Aero Squadron. The french personnel forms the Escadrille SPA.124 "Jeanne d'Arc".
May 28, 1918: Battle of Cantigny. The first american battle and offensive of WWI. 4,000 men engaged along with french troops.
June 6-22, 1918: Battle of Belleau Wood. 2 US Divisions along with french and british troops.
July 15, 1918: The 3rd US Division earns the nickname "Rock of the Marne" after the Battle of Château-Thierry (part of the Second Battle of the Marne, the last major german offensive on the western front)
September 26, 1918 - November 11, 1918: Meuse-Argonne Offensive (1st US Army and 4th French Army)
November 11, 1918: Armistice

4.355.000 men were drafted into military service. 3 million men were draft dodger in the US. 2 million men were in France by November 1918.

53,402 KIA
63,114 other causes (accident, disease,...)
Total fatalities: 116,516
204,002 WIA
3,350 MIA

Unwinnable, but the final outcome was still in some doubt. It's unclear if the french and british could have held out without American entry, in terms of political will. Without the Americans, any peace treaty would have to take into account such.
It's not that Germany would not lose, it would, but it may have negotiated slightly better terms. Or Europe falls to outright revolution everywhere, whichever.

>Americans won ww1
I don't understand why people claim we say this. Our schools barely teach ww1 because we played such a small part. I learned more about Wilson's 14 points than I did about one of the most important events of modern history. I'm not denying that lots of us claim we won ww2 but most Americans don't think of ww1 ever.

Yeah the backup plan for the germans in 1914 really ought to have been "how much reparations will we have to pay if we call it quits after our initial offensive fails"
Germany's natural strategy is fighting a quick war or not fighting at all

If the USA had remained strictly neutral from 1914 on, no trade with either side and no military action, then Imperial Germany would still own that clay.

by 1917 there was little chance of the british and french stopping short of german surrender, too much blood spilt to leave the job undone

if the americans were not on their way, the spring offensive probably wouldnt have been as rushed, and would have actually had some clear objectives in mind instead of just "kill a lot of brits"

In my school we were taught that doughboys were uber soldiers more capable of fighting because USA invented not eating like a poor. They won on numbers and vitality.