Probably one of the most interesting topics of ww2 that hardly anyone discusses are the planned aircraft germany wanted...

The German were the first to use jet fighter but they are not the only one who used jet fighter in WW2.
The Brit's Gloster Meteor was introduced in July 1944, just 3 months after the Me 262, and the American Lockheed P-80 was in service in 1945.
So no, even if Germany survived into 1946, the memeschmitt would still be outnumbered by the new Allies' jets.

P80 was garbage and was outclassed by literally any other of the major jets.

>only had one engine = less speed
>straight wings
>no cannons
>gloster meteor had straight wings but two engines + cannons
>me 262 had two engines + 30mm's

You could argue that the me262 would have a hard time in a jet dogfight since the 30 millimeter shells were very heavy but still the plane was better than the p80.

>one of the most interesting topics
>hardly anyone discusses
>yet another fucking "what if Germany made weaponised fidget spinners" thread

You don't find all these plane designs interesting?

Maybe 15 years ago when I was learning about it for the first time

Your lack of interest in this subject has already proven what you (((are)))

>no cannons

6 .50's were perfectly suited. That and the Mk 108 was notoriously difficult to use due to the low muzzle velocity and the high speed of the aircraft. That and the Sabre didn't have any cannons and still did quite well.

That's what I said. The mk103 was better than the 108 but only like 2 german planes had that, one of which never got built.

>Not being interested in one of the most over-hyped aspects of German military science in the war means you're Jewish

ded thred

>nigger-rigged rocket planes will surely turn the tide of the war
>btw shut down the nuclear weapons project to save 0.00001% of our war resources, the allies went through a lot of effort to shut down our heavy water plant for some reason but I don't understand all that jewish einstein physics hooha so they probably just fell for jewish lies

did anybody ever argue that shit like this was just a scheme to get the Reich to shovel money their way so they could hemmorage it and leave the country with wads of of cash? The war was beyond unwinnable by the time this shit was proposed, after all - especially for the fucking Luftwaffe

It just seems like one of the key failings of the eternal kraut is the obsession with
>muh elite special forces
rather than just doing what needs to be done and not fanny about.

This. A lot of their stuff was over complicated and over designed. It's war, just make sure it kills the other guy more effective than they can kill you. But instead they added a bunch of frills, bells and whistles.

German autism is a double edged sword.

nope, by 1946 the dehaviland vampire is entering squadron service, and the pershing and centurion tanks are entering widespread service as well.

and the germans still dont have the resources to build or fuel any of their new aircraft

Maybe it's not that interesting.

> Germany could not sustain it's aerial casualties during the battle of Britain

You spelled Battle of France wrong. Because after the BoB, BF109 E and Ju 87 were anyway obsolete and it's a good thing they were lost.

good post

The bottleneck in 44-45 was trained pilots (poor training program and fuel shortages) not airframes.

>Sunday: everyone gets a break day, except Berlin, which get nuked
fuck, i chuckled

user, stop being autistic.
He's only positing this for the purpose of a narrow aircraft design question. Lots of things could never conceivably happen under an circumstances, but we still excuse them for the sake of hypotheticals. In this case, the hypotheticals we need to satisfy are: one, that the Nazi party and its staff still exist, and two, it has the resources to fund aircraft manufacture. For all we know in this hypothetical timeline, Hitler was an upstanding gentleman with a nice mustache, a cool haircut, and a fascination with aircraft, with absolutely no interest in conquest.
Ridiculous? Most assuredly. Satisfactory for the narrow area of interest we're concerned with? Equally assuredly.

most of these designs are done by people who did not understand transonic flight, they are bad and would be marginally better than props, but vastly more consuming to maintain.

The most important thing to remember about Germany's late war aircraft industry is that they had switched production focus from ground supporting, multi role aircraft to high speed interceptors to defend the Reich from allied bombers. No longer did the Luftwaffe seek maneuverability, large and flexible payloads, or other things that had been typical of German aircraft. This divergence in design is best exemplified by the Bf109 family. Once the first G-4s started rolling off the assembly lines and allied bombers posed a credible threat, the Luftwaffe then sought fast aircraft with exceptional high altitude performance that could challenge the swarms of bombers. This transition of priorities is best seen between the 109G4 and the 109G6, in which a new, better performing supercharger was fitted. Also, the introduction of the G-10 with the MW50 injection system. It is highly likely that the Luftwaffe's interest, had the Germans not lost the war, would have remained in increasing the speed and reliability of the Me262 rather than producing any new, crazy variants of aircraft that many people buy the myths about. Look guys, the unconventional and sometimes crazy ideas produced by the Germans late war were simply the death throes of a a country desperate to solve the strategic bombing crisis that was crippling them. Realistically, no "crazy" aircraft would have been produced, and likely all efforts would have been in improving ME262 reliability and performance and possibly the introduction of another, lighter airframe similar to the 262. The 163 was about as crazy as the Germans got, for a good reason... that thing totally sucked.

>should we use this missile technology to hit bombers and thus stop daylight bombing and help save our factories
>or should we disperse our factories to forest and caves so we can make an unguided rocket that hits london sometimes and maybe if we get really really lucky hit something kinda important

>Realistically, no "crazy" aircraft would have been produced

Except the 1TL-Jager competition had metered out contracts to FW for production of the 183 prototypes and pre-production series, as well as Junkers submission. Messerschmitt was making the 1101 as a test article and was working on a production version in the last days of the war.