Where can I learn more about pre-islamic and non-islamic arab civilisation and history ? (apart from ancient Egypt, which I already have a pretty good grasp of)
Recommended readings, documentaries, etc ... are welcome, as well as information you find interesting on the subject and feel like sharing
Pre-islamic / non-islamic arabia
Ian Gray
Other urls found in this thread:
nabataea.net
historytoday.com
siratbanihilal.ucsb.edu
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
dailymotion.com
pastebin.com
answering-islam.org
wathanism.blogspot.ca
britannica.com
ia800603.us.archive.org
ia800408.us.archive.org
amazon.co.uk
twitter.com
Matthew Sanders
this board is fucking useless
Christopher Turner
If it's not about Western Europe or Rome you're probably not going to find anything useful here, friend.
Brody Green
Try looking for the civilizations that existed before Islam, like Zoroastrian Persia... but muslin have erased most of these civilizations
Kevin Nguyen
It's really hard to find information on it. The Saudi government suppresses research, they like to paint the picture that life before Islam was pure ignorant savagery. Despite gigantic empty pre islamic cities littering Arabia, as well as huge monuments and temples.
This is a good website i used when i was making Pre islamic arab armies for a game mod.
nabataea.net
Ignore the Kaaba on the front page, it's not an Islamic site, its about pre islamic Islam, focus on Nabataea but looks at all of arabia too.
Colton Thompson
yeah, I'm doing some research and while there is some study material that looks solid, there doesn't seem to be a lot left
also I'm cautious about what I read, since muslim scholars would probably have a heavy bias against these civilisations
Alexander Reed
>nabataea.net
looks absolutely fascinating, thanks, user
my interest is actually part personal curiosity and part game design needs
Luis Fisher
Start with Hoyland's Arabia and the Arabs: From the Bronze Age to the Coming of Islam
Learn Arabic, and then you can read pre-islamic arabic poetry. There is also a glimpse of pre-islamic arabs in Arabic poetry of the Islamic era. Antar ibn Shaddad is one example of pre-Islamic Arabs. But there is also Arabian epic of the story of Banu Hilal during the Islamic era but that tribe behaved more like its pre Islamic past in many ways. There's an American scholar who has made a site to conserve some renditions of the epic: siratbanihilal.ucsb.edu
Unfortunately, the epic is not kept 100% as to what it was since poets would change over time but it is the closest thing there is of the epic's past.
Some interesting videos about Nabateans (northern Arabia): youtube.com
youtube.com
Carter Baker
They didn't erase most of those civilizations, since they died before Islam even began you retard. Ancient Mesopotamia was no more by the time Alexander conquered it.
Zoroastrian Persia (i.e Sassanian) was the civilization that existed during the beginning of Islam but its relics and sites still exist to this day. There was no attempt to try to erase everything.
Grayson Collins
>The Saudi government suppresses research
Perhaps in the past. Not anymore: youtube.com
This is a recent documentary in French about the ancient city of Hegra in Saudi Arabia: dailymotion.com
There is not much information in Western research because academics were typically not interested in Arabia, thinking it had nothing interesting. A lot of 19th century Western academics who did archaeology in the Middle East went looking for the civilizations and peoples mentioned in the Bible. Those were in Mesopotamia typically.
Dominic Walker
this link OP
pastebin.com
Easton Watson
This is about the gods of pre islamic arabia
the link was removed from the wikipedia article for some reason
Evan Lee
>answering-islam
Shit source. This link is better: wathanism.blogspot.ca
This is at least based on academia: britannica.com
Cooper Harris
>implying anything could be pre-Islam
William Cruz
I don't know anything about the rest of the site but it's an interesting book written not long after islam started and apart from the autistic arab names it's great. Alot more information than the blog you posted. I'm seriously mad cunt, don't shit on my source(a book written by someone who could talk with people whom had first hand experience in the subject) and then post a blog written by a LARPer and an encyclopedia you massive fucking faggot
Dylan Diaz
You're an idiot. There is no book posted on that page. It's a bunch of supposed citations, where you have no idea if the translation is good or not. The book isn't known or subject to much exposure and your shitty site doesn't try to understand the book since the author of that article clearly hasn't read it.
And the blog posted (your site is a bad version of a blog) has a lot more information on pre Islamic arab beliefs. In fact, it's the whole purpose of it.
Encyclopedia aren't bad. Get an education, dimwit.
>autistic arab names
Kek, you're dumb.
Cooper Morris
And if you want the actual book, here: ia800603.us.archive.org
or
ia800408.us.archive.org
>muh english translation
Then this: amazon.co.uk
Joshua Nelson
>but muslin have erased most of these civilizations
meme
Carter Kelly
>Ancient Mesopotamia was no more by the time Alexander conquered it.
It may have been declining, but that is false.
Nicholas Wood
The ancient Sumerian and Semitic empires of Mesopotamia were no more by the time of Alexander the Great. Mesopotamia was colonized and conquered, turned into a shadow of its former self.