Lose the war

Because they won the war.

Shut up filthy a*glo
France is the successor to the Roman Empire and her fall was that of barbarian hoards
France did not loose but won a*nglos pretend they won when really it was the French partisans that beat the Germans back
Fuck off filthy a*glo

france joined the axis thus they lost

But France was part of the axis

They were Allies in the end. Get over it nerds, the end is all that matters. France won.

France joined the axis. They switched sides. They lost.

Then they joined the Allies and were on the winning side in the end. Shitposting won't change reality, kid.

>France joined the Axis
The absolute state of Veeky Forums.

the first time I've ever seen anyone pretend vichy france is france

France is quite pathetic
>kid as an insult
Spot the 17 year old

The Gaullists never lost the war.

>willingly and eagerly cooperated with krauts
>after the war claim that you totally weren't part of the axis

Reminder that by and large the French Resistance is a myth created post-war to make France more palpable for British and American public.

The were never recognized as part of the Axis and were not seen as allies by the Germans but just as an occupied country with some collaborators in it. The "France State" was officially neutral and initially the US recognized that regime until late 1942.
While they certainly collaborated with the occupying forces it was not a formal alliance. France was not allowed to rebuild their army to fight the Allies. It wasn't like Italy or Japan that had an actual alliance.

>French Resistance is a myth
More like "French Resistance is a myth" myth
Just because it was exaggerated post-war doesn't mean it didn't exist at all.

De Gaulle was the sword to strike at any opening the Axis left, Pétain the shield to protect us against the occupation.

France was never fully occupied, she still had vast, resourceful expanses of territory.

The Vichy government was never an adherent of the Tripartite Pact. Germany would have never allowed Vichy to be an equal partner in anything, and Pétain always opposed further military cooperation, even when British aggression kept pushing his ministers to seek German boots to lick.

Eh, to be fair it’s the democratically elected assembly of France (choke full of leftists, amusingly enough) that gave full emergency powers to Pétain, without prompting from Germany, simply in total panic. Pétain’s rise to power was lawful and legitimate.

>France joined the Axis
it was neutral after they signed the armistice with Germany
The "French State", or Vichy France, was a provisional government.
Just like the Provisional Government of the French Republic of "Free France", which became the 4th Republic 2 years after the war.

...

Because France fought with the allies. The fact that it lost the war and a government allied with Germany was put in place doesn't change the fact that France was the 4th contributor to the allies, maybe not with the french interior Resistance which was exagerated (Which does not mean it doesn't exist) but with the french exterior forces ; New french regiments were raised by de Gaulle in the colonies even while mainland France was occupied, Before the Normandy landings 400000 people were fighting under the flag of France, and by 1945 with the country liberated french soldiers were conscripted and fought in Germany, they numbered more than a million.

>400000 people were fighting under the flag of France
So absolutely fucking nothing, those numbers make Australians and Leafs look like fucking USA when it came to contributing in war effort.

>Pétain the shield to protect us against the occupation.

Those jews sold to nazis were just a necessary sacrifice, amirite.

As a french dude,I'll never understand how the fuck DeGaulle got us an UN Security Council seat.

>400000 military personnel, the majority being active combattants, is nothing for a splinter group who does not control its country nor the majority of its colonies
The french fought in North Africa, Italy and Europe. By the end of the war it had 1.3 million soldiers under its flag. You need to stop seeing war like its a video game, there is no reason for France not to be part of the victors.

Yes, absolutely. The Germans wanted Jews to burn, it got them off out backs, so we gave them more than they wanted. What is a few thousands metics in exchange for a relatively calm occupation and French lives saved?

France was still an important player in Europe with a larger population than the UK and a larger army historically

Germany and Russia was considered the enemy and France could help thus your got the seat
As much as I like to banter obnoxious frogs with the surrender meme it really wasn’t considered anything of fault of France until your lost in indo-China and left NATO

>ywn live in a timeline where Hitler focusses his autism on France instead of the slavs
Feels kinda bad

>The french fought in North Africa, Italy and Europe.

Usually against the allied powers, quite often side by side with Germans too.

>hand over your guns and surrender by the name of the eternal anglo who just abandoned your country to nazis to occupy
>no
>OMG NAZI!!!!

>Usually against the allied powers, quite often side by side with Germans too.
give us examples please

>the eternal anglo who just abandoned your country to nazis to occupy
>It's England's job to defend France from the Germans who France promised they had adequate defences against

>those numbers make Australians and Leafs look like fucking in USA

Perhaps not, since France was the 4th contributor to the allies. Who the fuck do you think were 1st, 2nd and 3rd, Emus, Leafs and fucking Kiwis?

> lose war
> still occupy 1/4 of enemy country
French played underwater backgammon.

krauts were asking for it.

Videos like this made me unironically think the french have one of the most incredible stories of WW2.

youtube.com/watch?v=JtDXWliXlb0&index=12&list=PLosJAiLZv8OH3VQopcjdOUrLYatehzc4K

>the french have one of the most incredible stories of WW2.
Obviously.
>near impenetrable defenses
>one of the largest armies in the world
>supported by Great Britain
>lose in less than two months

Yep
They were protected by the impregnable Maginot Line and a mighty superpower, the British Empire on which the sun didn't set, had promized to protect them
So the French thought they could sit their lazy ass there and do nothing

But the Germans avoided the Line, the British dunkirked, and the rest is history

>spend trillions on a wall to keep your eternal enemy out
>they go around it
OH NO NO NO

HOW CAN FRANCE EVER RECOVER FROM THIS

Military success is irrelevant. The goal of war is to reach a political objective. Therefore they won.

> Military success is irrelevant
> In fucking war

ww2 was Germany's fault, not France's

The British are benevolent lords.

We knew we needed France in the Wars To Come so we let them say they won.

>England

>thinking the French did nothing else apart from sitting behind the Maginot line
>ignoring the crack divisions sent to Belgium where the attack was expected

>Win the war
>Still claim they lost
Why is this allowed?

Why are French people so hilariously deluded about themselves?

You lost TWICE. Once to Germany, and once to the Allies.

Italy loses by the mere act of being Italy.

We won once. When it mattered.

America and her little cousins did that for you too.

You could say that for practically every Allied country.

>we will help you
>lol joke bye!

perfidious

Commies did win, they got east Europe for free

>evacuate 250,000 French soldiers
>they sail home and surrender

the USSR did that for you*

Pretty impressive, don't forget the part where they decided to become a nation of quislings and try to defend it by screaming about muh occupation.
>slavs get occupied=bloody guerrilla warfare and constant uprisings
>french get occupied=mr. german soldier, may i fetch you another bottle of wine, also my wife and daughter would very much like to have a threesome with you

>in WW1

If you joined la resistance and wasn't a commie, they would turn you to the nazis, resistance killed more resistance than the nazi ever couls

You're looking at it the wrong way
Slavs chimped out because the occupiers treated them like sub-humans
In France, the Germans behave a civilized way, which is why locals were less tempted to take up arms

Only due to massive support from Anglos.
>french troops were busy rebelling over minor issues while brits and anzacs kept the hun at bay
>french were still rebelling when yanks won the war for entente

>Anglos out of any country giving others shit for needing help to win a war

Should I remind you that, unlike France, Germany, Spain, Russia...etc, Britain has literally never won a war in Europe without strong allies?

Can you name a single war england won without a strong allie?

The Anglo-Zulu War, but that's about it

There is a difference between "needing help" and "completely unable to function on its own, needs an outsider to help even with the most simplest of things". First one can be used describe UK in WW2, the second one is used when talking about things like WW1 France or WW2 Italy.

WW1 France held basically alone on the Western Front until mid 1916

And
>completely unable to do anything relevant on its own
Perfectly describes Britain in WW2, the Napoleonic Wars and many others

>WW1 France held basically alone on the Western Front until mid 1916

Literally just not true.

>France was the 4th contributor to the allies
fogs thinking that they were more important than China or Emus

Yes it is
Brits only started to send significant numbers on the Western Front in 1916, with the Battle of the Somme

Before that, the BEF numbered roughly 100,000 men while France and Germany both had several millions men each on theater

He mean in Europe I think

1. USSR
2. USA
*power gap*
3. Australia
4. France

>trying to reason with a frog
Remember truth doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is that France is a great country and not some shithole filled with Latin-Germanic rape babies that have achieved nothing of note during last couple hundred years.

>which is why locals were less tempted to take up arms
They were very tempted to take them in their arms though

Nah.
1. USSR
2. USA
3. Britain
4. Canada
5. ANZAC
6. Poland
7. Greece
8. Norway
....
1000153. Italy
1000154. France

...

Why is the USSR above USA and Britain?
Both have much larger airforces, navies, industrial capacities and economies

>Britain above Poland

Bong pls
We saved your ass during the Battle of Britain

That was the based kiwis

repeat please

1.USA
*power gap*
2.URSS
3.Britain
4.China
5.ANZAC
6.Canada
7.France
8.Greece
9.Literally any human being
10.Brazil

Poland was a German occupied state.
I think you mean the polish saved Britain

Brazil did stolen more guns than they sent to war

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

All of these barely won against German

>barely
the war was lost in 1941 user

>barely
Germany was mutilated

do poles believe this?

I'm French and I admit we lost. So do most French. It is meaningless, we still did the most to create Western civilisation. Being shit for a few years is better than being shit for all of history like Germany, or just an irrelevant country that never contributed anything to civilisation like the USA

>getting bullied by anglos about ww2
>mfw Free France literally doesn't exist

>we still did the most to create Western civilisation
You're not British

>we still did the most to create Western civilisation.

Italians, Greeks, English, Scotts, Spanish, and Portuguese did more desu.

AKSHUALLY

Someone will 'debunk' this along these lines
>wow biased much, written by an Anglo
>1400-1950, nice try
>[citation needed]
Any of the above comments must be ignored for the sake of good mental health

>Being shit for a few years
Two centuries and counting

I have nothing against the Anglos, they are worthy enemies and allies and the second most important Western country. In WWII, we were both irrelevant though. It is sad, but true. We both lost our empires thanks to the stupid boche