It seems like everything about Chinese history can be summed up as "DUDE EMPIRE LMAO" and "DUDE ANCIENT SAGE KINGS LMAO"
Practically all Chinese achievement - literary, technological, philosophical, military etc. for thousands of years had as its underlying purpose creating, empowering and submitting to an ever more powerful central bureaucracy and state control, and an autistic obsession with returning to how things were in the mythical past.
Jordan Smith
The best thing they did: gunpowder The worst thing they did: """traditional""" chinese medicine
Landon Ross
what the fuck does autistic even mean in this context
what a pointless question, please never make a thread again
Justin Ortiz
Paper's better than gunpowder
Aaron Collins
>Practically all Chinese achievement - literary, technological, philosophical, military etc. for thousands of years had as its underlying purpose creating, empowering and submitting to an ever more powerful central bureaucracy and state control >Literary.
2 of China's 4 great novels are about rebellion and banditry and 1 is basically Buddhist-Chinese Reverse Lord of the Rings. . Though the 3 Kingdoms can be read in a Confucian manner.
Imperial China's most famous poet just wrote about being blind fucking drunk all the time and being sad.
Easton Phillips
I'm curious now, which one is reverse lord of the rings and how does it go in reverse?
William Campbell
Journey to the West is basically a fantasy retelling of Tang Period Monk, Xuanzhang's, perilous journey to India to acquire OG copies of Buddhist Texts since the Chinese copies were outdated and badly translated at the time.
Wu Chengen basically took that story, but the dangers that Xuanzang faced were supernatural attempts to block his path to India, in which Xuanzang is saved by being accompanied by a monkey demigod punished with exile to earth for literally massacring heaven at one time, a pig demigod punished the same way for flirting with the moon goddess, a dragon in horse form, and a warrior-monk.
Gabriel Richardson
>Paper's better than gunpowder no. we had things to write on before we had paper. Therefore, paper was just an innovative improvement in the medium of writing, rather than something inventive.
Gunpowder was the first method we had to really blow shit the fuck up.
Carson Hernandez
Paper is part of gunpowder.
Jackson Clark
> paper > gunpowder Pleb tier choices.
Jordan Scott
... what?
Justin Parker
>we had things to write on before we had paper Which were not cheap and were fuckhard to manufacture.
Paper was cheap as fuck which enabled bureaucracy to be cheap, books to be cheap, etc.
Grayson Hall
had to google it. good job on that one Chinks.
Brayden Williams
>a reduction in the cost of bureaucracy is comparable to being able to blow up the greatest fortresses man could ever build and completely reshaping mining and tunneling and essentially transforming humans from beings limited to the power of animals they could tame to gods capable of unlimited force. still no.
Michael Davis
Sounds pretty dope, some of it rings a bell, and I understand the analogy now.
Austin Allen
Yes. You wouldn't be able to do half the hyperbolic shit you said if people counldn't communicate more effiecently.
Nicholas Fisher
>implying that’s a bad thing. How different do you think Europe would have been if the western and eastern Romans reunited. Or if the Germanic raiders were slowly converted to Roman ideals.
Anthony Allen
It would probably have stagnated like China did, with no need for the state to venture across the seas to find resources as they already control the entire land empire.
Carson Ward
That’s definitely one way to look it and you might not be wrong. I always believed they would of united Europe or gone after the Persians.
Joseph Williams
Without gunpowder, everyone would be doomed to be cucked by steppeniggers forever.
Colton Reed
You need paper to manage the logistics of all that.
Tyler Watson
>an autistic obsession with returning to how things were in the mythical past. I’m pretty sure this was true of almost all of Europe until the Renaissance. >Muh Roman Empire
Jackson Young
>You need paper to manage the logistics of all that. >Yes. You wouldn't be able to do half the hyperbolic shit you said if people counldn't communicate more effiecently. triggered paper-boys
Matthew Powell
Everyone has traditional medicine
You don’t even want to see traditional Yemeni medicine.
Anthony Harris
Paper > Printing > Gunpowder > Compass
Landon Butler
Totally agree. Nice one OP
Adam Smith
But only China has actual degrees and medical schools to study traditional "medicine".