Mongols couldn't have invaded europe of muh invincible castles

>mongols couldn't have invaded europe of muh invincible castles

>mongols could have taken over the entirety of europe with ease because LE MONGOLS ARE THE EXCEPTION XDD!!!!

I like the vibe of this thread

Indeed

no, the Mongols did invade Europe
extreme decentralization and awesome castles stymied their effort

Well they did...

>take over the shithole of europe
>THEY TOOK OVER ALL OF EUROPE GUIZE
>LMAO THEY'RE SO BIG AND STRONG
Don't get me wrong, mongols where fucking strong
But they had no way to deal with castles

>an entire continent based their government, social institutions, religious systems, and borders on a series of fortifications for hundreds of years before the proliferation of cannons
>but they were stupid because those fortifications didn't actually do anything and could be ignored at no consequence

Are you retarded?

>only europother continets don't

This, except unironically

European castle were way better than what the Middle East and the Chinese had.

China has a few fortress cities
Europe had a castle every other mile

By that point the Mongols had fuckloads of chinese engineers who could build siege engines, and they in fact did in Russia, taking many walled cities, forts etc. with ease.

Give credit where credit is due.

whitebois just cant accept that muh knights were nothing compared to a mongolian tactics

The Mongols would have been molested by Scotland.

My cock is penetrating your inferior brown ass.

However, this is merely the case of typical Veeky Forums ignorance and worthlesness (and american education, but these are the same). The error stems from the fact the Mongols simply didn't go forward with the conquering because they had problems with succession of the khans and internal politics, and simply stopped going forward. They weren't beaten.

What makes you say that user?

Chinese castles were larger and more sturdy.

bruh... look at dis dood...
1 fucking tumen

One big castle is not necessarily better than 10 small castles.

hungarian heavy cavalry performed disproportionately better than their comrades during the first mongol invasion of europe, which lead to military reforms expanding the heavy cavalry wings that directly assisted in the decisive defeats of the mongols in the second mongol invasion of europe

>mongols couldn't have invaded europe because of forests

k e k

I have no idea how your shitty meme reply applies to my post, or the pic you posted. You obviously can't read.

The guy is saying the Mongols didn't go forward with conquering. Mongols defeated the Hungarians, Russians, the Polish decisively. However they weren't able to reap the rewards because the invasion was called off right at the brink of victory. The main issue being Hungarian king Bela hiding/running. The mongols didn't gain legitimacy because of this.

It's not about the strength of the castles its about how fucking many there were, either they have to advance without taking them and get their rear harassed constantly or besiege them all which would mean spreading the army extremely thin

And? For the most part they were well seasoned troops fighting against a series of peasants who all spoke different languages and weren't as well coordinated

>mongols couldn't have invaded japan because horses can't swim

>But they had no way to deal with castles
So what happened to the hundreds of fortified cities in China and Central Asia that they sacked? Most of which would have surpassed nearly all of the fortifications the Mongols ran into in Europe. This castles meme needs to stop.

>So what happened to the hundreds of fortified cities China and Central Asia that they sacked?
got fucked lmfao
based eurocastles

>all castles and fortifications are the same
>all regions had the same amount of castles
>the mongols could take any fortification with 0 losses

The mongols wouldn't have had enough fodder water to sustain assaults in the advent of sustained siege campaigns, particularly when scorched earth was implemented

Its not so much that they couldn't destroy castles, its they as defensive fortifcations were LITERALLY EVERYWHERE. This is also in addition to the fact that Eastern, Central and Western Europe during those timeframes were fairly rugged landscapes which did not conform well to steppe warfare and did not have the capacity to support a sustained campain in terms of water, fodder or available food in terms of plunder.

Last time i visited europe i saw lots of slant eyed blondes, so they must have succeded a bit.

Scandinavians have naturally occurring slant eyes. Slant eyes =/= Asian

It makes no sense to say those "asian" blondes are descendants of mongol rape, because no hapa has been blonde and third-fourth generations get bleached fully and why the fuck would villagers tolerate children born from invaders?

Ever heard of a siege? Wait the pic means ur sarcastic right?

Just incase, ever heard if the siege of samarkand. Or Beijing? Europe is nigger-tier compared to these walled cities.

They did invade Japan... ever heard of kamikaze? Bad luck. Same with Europe, the successors of genius were arguing amongst themselves. Bad luck.

>Scandinavians have naturally occurring slant eyes.

Except that Russian fortifications were not on par with those in most of Europe. For fucks sake just look at Hungary when it was invaded by Mongols.
Is it really so hard for mongolboos and chinaboos to accept that fortification building and castles were more advanced in 13th century Europe than it was in Asia?

>Is it really so hard for mongolboos and chinaboos to accept that fortification building and castles were more advanced in 13th century Europe than it was in Asia?
Yes, because its false.

If you include the Saami and Fins as Scandinavians then this is true. Germanic scandis can get those slant eyes due to admixture from those groups.

Except it's not. One has to take even a cursory look at what Chinese fortifications looked like in the 13th century to understand that they were barely more advanced than Roman era ones.

>Is it really so hard for mongolboos and chinaboos to accept that fortification building and castles were more advanced in 13th century Europe than it was in Asia?
It's impossible for chinaboos to admit that their country is flawed in any way what so ever, their national ego is infinite