why the fuck do they consider themselfs romans? they arent even latins to begin with.
In spanish we say RUmania to avoid confusion...
Everyone knows that the succesor states of the roman empire are France, Spain, Italy and Portugal, not fucking Romania
is it a joke or propaganda???
They think they're Dacians descended from Trajan's legionaries.
It is both a joke and propaganda. Just like the Greeks living in Turkey who call themselves Romans because muh ERE.
werent the greeks living on those tiny island in the aegean sea calling themselfs romans back in ww1?
It's one of those autistic things in history that just happen and it just catches on. So instead of being something like Macedonia (a small pathetic country with brainwashed peasants) or the random micro states in Europe Romania had some luck in the world wars and became quite a big country with 20+ million people.
Obviously they have some fairy-tale origin story about being descendants of Roman legionaries, Latin-speaking shepherds and shit like that, but yeah...
>m..muh fairy tales!
then how would you retards explain on why they speak that language instead of something completely different from latin?
I think its charming, please do not bully
State enforced assimilation.
>they arent even latins to begin with.
>speak latin
Sure brainlet
the prevalence of the J2 haplogroup, also known as the "roman army haplogroup" supports the theory of the descendants of the roman soldiers
The EU should unironically break Romania back down to Wallachia and give the rest to Hungary.
It's apparently still a name for themselves, nationalism just made it unpopular.
>speak latin
You never heard a rUmanian, right?
Dacians were germanic
>>they arent even latins to begin with.
Who the fuck said they were Latin? They speak a Romance language while surrounded by dirty Slavs and Balkans.
Too bad nobody gives a fuck about Hungary to do this.
Jej, why are you so butthurt,little guy?
a french, an italian, a portuguese and a spanish can AT LEAST understand eachother talking on their mother language
No one fucking understands rumanian
>a french, an italian, a portuguese and a spanish can AT LEAST understand eachother talking on their mother language
Not sure if trolling, or retarded (I'm French btw). Anyway, leave Orthodox bros alone
>hungarians and finns undestand eachother when they speak in their mother tongue
Keeeeeek
>No one fucking understands rumanian
That's because for the first few centuries it developed in isolation from other Romance languages. Doesn't change the fact that Romanian is a Romance language.
>Romania
Kek ,where is Tartaria ,Scythia or Sclavonia now, faggot?
I think ant-wewuzery has gone too far.
>why the fuck do they consider themselfs romans?
Only the most autistic nationalists believe that they are literally Romans. It is accepted that they descend from Romans though, which is true.
>they arent even latins to begin with.
What do you mean by "latins"? They speak a Romance language.
>In spanish we say RUmania to avoid confusion...
Romanians differentiate themselves from Romans too. They have "roman" for "Roman" and "român" for "Romanian", which is pronounced differently ("â" stands for a sound that doesn't appear in other Romance languages).
>Everyone knows that the succesor states of the roman empire are France, Spain, Italy and Portugal, not fucking Romania
Who "everyone"? What's with weasel words? They descend from the inhabitants of the Roman province of Dacia, from Italian colonists and romanized local tribes. They speak a language that is a descendant of Latin. They also managed to keep the original self-designation of Romans, albeit in a mutated form.
P.S. I am not even Romanian, just a Russian with interest in Romanian history and language.
>Britain, Ireland and Scandinavia are not Europe
kek
Thanks for posting
Kek, somebody should draw England as a penis
Literally the most informed and intelligent post in this thread.I am romanian and I couldnt have said it better.
Literally every country in the world did that you fucking brainlet. A few hundred years ago nobody was French in France.
You might find this interesting
A review, please?
Nice, thanks. Never read Vigel before.
Sorry don't know, just the particular passage and the fact that it about Bassarabia described by a Russian.
Vice governor of Bessarabia between 1824-1826
Based Ruskie.
>why the fuck do they consider themselfs romans?
We don't consider ourselves literal Romans, just descendants of them.
>they arent even latins to begin with.
We speak a Latin language...
>In spanish we say RUmania to avoid confusion...
And? That's just how you say it in Spanish. For example, Istro-Romanians, of which there are very few remaining, use names like Rumunski, Rumeni, Rumeri, Rumunji for themselves, as well as Vlachs.
>Everyone knows that the succesor states of the roman empire are France, Spain, Italy and Portugal, not fucking Romania
See paragraph above. We are descendants of paleo-Balkanic populations that adopted Latin and then went about their lives mostly as shepherds under foreign rule for centuries. Pic related.
The rest were assimilated by Slavs & Greeks, with us being the lucky ones to have retained independence and our national identity.
>is it a joke or propaganda???
You be the judge.
Our Latin brothers in Romania will soon join us on our quest to reform the Roman Empire. Filthy Barbarians living on stolen Roman land are either going learn a Roman language or being deported to the frozen thundras above the Limes.
I am Italian.
>Nordcucks think they decedents of mother EUROPA, The Greco-Phoenician mediterranean Goddess
fuck off tundramonkey. You are not a real European.
Bene dictum, frater !
Because the substrate language was vastly different from Latin's other bastard children, plus perhaps its relative isolation.
The result was that a lot of the boring function words that crop up in every sentence are different, but 90% of the vocabulary is Italian. Grammatically it's basically Vulgar Latin which is to say Italian with some noun inflection.
Italian and Romanian are mutually intelligible to a limited degree. It's easier for the Romanian than the Italian, but that may simply be because Italians are brainlets.
It's called Romania because it's Roma people home
Because ”Rumân” literally means ”Citizen of Rome”
Only retarded ProtoChronists believe that.
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Same reasons Hungarians think they are Huns.
Just a national propaganda/identity.
>Same reasons Hungarians think they are Huns.
They literally don't.
Some of them larp as Turkics/Turanics, but it's never a Hun thing
Medieval Hungarians did think they come from Huns, but that's mostly a result of being introduced to western/Roman tradition where the Huns were treated as a scary big bad.
>Tartaria
Tatarstan
>Scythia
Ukraine
>Sclavonia
serbo-croatians
Hungarians literally name themselves Huns and Atilla and hold some traditional festivals around that idea
They definitely do or did. Modern Hungarians however with the knowledge of Atilla's genetics try to distance themselves from it a bit. They then try to larp as white aryans.
>They then try to larp as white aryans
Hungarians are actually descended from Iron Age Pannonian Scythians
>with the knowledge of Atilla's genetics
we know Attila's genetics?
also, yes Hungarians are proud of their steppe origin
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>Dacians descended from Trajan's legionaries
That's an oxymoron that nobody claims. You clearly haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about and you're just making a mess by conflating things that sound good to you.
Dacians were the native population that was conquered by the Romans. They can't descend from the Romans and nobody claimed this. At worst you had some that claimed to be pure Dacians and that Roman conquest didn't change the population but they have long since been discredited and are completely irrelevant.
We know what he looks like to a moderate degree from second hand descriptions provided by Roman diplomat. A basic stocky mongolian man.