The Death Of Stalin

What's the Veeky Forums verdict on this? I watched it the other day and thought it was pretty decent desu, the scenes set in the NKVD headquarters reminded me of The Chekist aswell

Still haven't seen it. I was about two days drive from a theatre that would have shown it during the release. I'll wait for the DVD release to get a decent rip.

I don't know what broader Veeky Forums thinks of the film but the few times where somebody has tried to have a discussion on the film the thread has mostly consisted of /int/poster subhumans and the occasional card carrying tankie, definitely a rare sight on the boards I go in.

I liked it a lot but it stops being as funny after the ridiculous stuff is over and it just becomes about trying to get rid of Beria.

It has historical errors, most obviously in downplaying the nastiness that guys like Kruschev, Zhukov, and Molotov were up to in order to have a clear villain in the form of Beria. But it's a dark comedy, not a history lesson in the form of film. Judging it on anything other than "how much did it make me laugh" is stupid.

That scene where the new lists get implemented in the nkvd HQ was like a mix between gilliam's Brazil and the chekist aswell, it had the same kind of "kafkaesque barbarism"-type vibe to it

There need to be more movies that mock and expose bolshevism for the tyrannical system that it was, also no wonder that Putin's neo-soviet russia banned this movie aswell

((Beria)) actually *was* responsible for millions of deaths

>Anglo faggotry: the movie

>Putin
>neo-Soviet

t. Hillary Clinton

I'm not saying Beria wasn't a bad guy. I'm saying that you had a bad guy opposed by other bad guys. The movie downplays those other bad guys so that you know who to root for.

Zhukov was a complete meathead IRL and they had a soyboy like Jason Isaacs play him. They should've picked someone like Brian Thompson instead.

Khr*schevite propaganda

in theaters next month

I'll be there

But Khrushchev causes a massacre, gets butthurt that Beria steals the reforms that he was going to make to become more popular and only gives a shit about his political career.

Its a black comedy, not a biopic. Put your panties back on.

This.

Its like The Thick of It or Veep in that both sides have incompetents - this time with a very high body count. Its not supposed to make anyone look good, that's not what Iannucci's comedies do.

>I was about two days drive from a theatre that would have shown it during the release.

Jesus Christ, what empty wasteland do you live in?

I'm autistic and really into Russian history so noted a few inaccuracies:

>That stuff with the singer note was completely fake
>Molotov was not foreign minister at the time of Stalin's death, Vyshinskly (who disliked Molotov quite a bit) was. Molotov was deputy premier and despite being on bad terms with Stalin at the time of his death was still in a lot more influence than the movie portrayed
>Beria was not head of the NKVD at the time of Stalin's death. The NKVD at this point was actually called the MVD and dealt with internal security/policing while the MGB was the secret police agency under the control of Semyon Ignatiev. Stalin had put rivals in positions of MGB to weaken Beria, though in practice Beria maintained a lot of influence on them and was still known as "State Curator of Security". It is true that after Stalin died, Beria took direct control of both the MVD and MGB
>Malenkov wasn't Stalin's deputy, though he was the de facto #2. In truth at the time of Stalin's death he was 2nd deputy premier under Molotov but had a lot of stalins favor at the time.
>Malenkov in general. He was short and fat instead of tall and slim. He was aggressive and scheming instead of meek and passive. Beria was much more accurate to how Malenkov should have looked and behave.
>The Timeline. The movie condenses many months into a few days. Stalin died in march and Beria was executed in late December long after the funeral and such was done. In truth they used Beria's handling of the uprising in East Germany to oust him, not the funeral deaths.
>When Beria was ousted the politburo nor zhukov were there, they were in Moscow and he was hundreds of kilometers at a military base in the countryside. He was taken into the woods and shot along with a few of his cronies.
>Absence of some key politburo members like Andrei Andreyev and Voroshilov
>Some comedic stuff that was left out like the bad doctors leeching stalin

>Zhukov wasn't the head of the Army at the time of Stalin's death. The defense minister was Bulganin and the Chief of Staff was Vasily Sokolovsky. Zhukov had actually been demoted to head of the Ural military district because Stalin feared his popularity.

>Putin
>neo-soviet

Go to be Macron. Anti-soviet is codeword for anti-russian.

>((Beria)) actually *was* responsible for millions of deaths
[citation needed]
great terror happened under yezhov brainlet, which was 500k deaths not "millions"

not him but I agree that it's hyperbolic to call Putin neo-Soviet. But I'd say it's much closer to the mark than the "Putin is the new Tsar" meme. Russian nationalists and the far right despise Putin, they perceive him as continuing the Soviet legacy of devaluing ethnic Russians in favor of minorities, however near or far that is from the truth. Putin does make a concerted effort to appeal to the nation's Islamic minority to maintain good religious relations and to keep the Caucasus peaceful. He also in many ways plays on the heritage of the Soviet experience, particularly as it relates to Great Patriotic War memorialization. This has broad appeal to the older generation of Russians, including those in other post-Soviet states who look back to Russia (that doesn't mean all Russians in those countries want to be reunified, esp. in the Baltics). The Russian federation is by definition a multiethnic project, much like the USSR and the Russian Empire in a sense. It's honestly a muddied and confusing af picture, when you have a broad spectrum of patriotism/nationalism that like the official Putinite version is built on an almost schizophrenic dual faith that brings together Soviet "nationalism" with Great Russian nationalism. Great Russian nationalism was kept at arm's length by the Tsarist order, they encouraged it at times to suppress communists and Jews but at other times sought to repress it for its Millenarian and radically nationalistic tendencies which ran contrary to the multiethnic nature of the empire. This weird dual faith was revived by Stalin, and you can see it's legacy in Putin's image today. This weird duality has lead to a situation where Nazi and Communist militias both claiming to be Russian nationalists are fighting in Eastern Ukraine for a separatist organization that grew out of a protest movement (not gonna comment on whether it was organic) to protect Lenin statues and the status of the Russian language at the same time.

No fucking shit it’s innaccurate

Why are you putting parentheses over Beria? He was Georgian (Mingrelian to be exact).

uniforms and gear are mega wrong, outside of that, quality banter and comedy. So i really was not bothered by it

Watched it today. Thank god it hasn't get come out in my shithole country's theaters because I would've felt scammed out of my money.
First of all, it's not very funny as a comedy. The first 20 minutes or so were dozens of variations of "Stalin is going to kill me" that are supposed to somehow be funny over and over again (they're not), Stalin's son is an awful character, so is Malenkov, so is pretty much everyone but Kruschev and Zhukov. Beria I feel didn't work comedically because the movie just made you hate him so much that you couldn't really laugh at his few jokes.
As a historical drama is also doesn't function too well. Characters are simplistic, nothing much happens, the plot advances very akwardly (we have to get Malenkov's support! All or nothing! Ok he doesn't actually support us but let's do it anyways!) and the last 20minutes or so are just absolute justice porn by the director because he clearly wanted to make a picture showing Beria bawling like a baby and pleading for his life after getting really mad reading his wikipedia article (mind you, Beria was absolutely a rotten excuse for a person). That felt cheap.
Shame really, I was really looking foward to this movie

Did the politburo members really live in shit comiblocks with busted toilets?

Nice explanation! But what about Dugin's "Eurasianism"? (I know it is marginal in Russia, but this ideology is growing in my country.)

I think Dugin is super overhyped in the Western media, as you say he is marginal in Russia. I see no concrete proof that he has anything but the most marginal influence on the Kremlin, he's a figure who sometimes speaks to their interest and sometimes doesn't. But so much of this is speculation in a country where the picture is very opaque, especially as someone who lives outside of Russia atm. Western media likes to pretend it's got the whole picture figured out but the picture is a lot more complicated than appears at first glance.

what's your country btw? curious