Paper on Germanic invasions of Roman Empire

biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/02/20/268250

>Despite centuries of research, much about the barbarian migrations that took place between the fourth and sixth centuries in Europe remains hotly debated. To better understand this key era that marks the dawn of modern European societies, we obtained ancient genomic DNA from 63 samples from two cemeteries (from Hungary and Northern Italy) that have been previously associated with the Longobards, a barbarian people that ruled large parts of Italy for over 200 years after invading from Pannonia in 568 CE. Our dense cemetery-based sampling revealed that each cemetery was primarily organized around one large pedigree, suggesting that biological relationships played an important role in these early Medieval societies. Moreover, we identified genetic structure in each cemetery involving at least two groups with different ancestry that were very distinct in terms of their funerary customs. Finally, our data was consistent with the proposed long-distance migration from Pannonia to Northern Italy.

How is Hungary to Northern Italy in any way a long distance?

>In contrast, in Collegno it was notable that the five individuals with major southern ancestry
are primarily assigned to Italy using PAA, exhibited local strontium signatures. When examining the two major kindred, we observe the striking general pattern that earlier generations had strontium isotope values that diverged from the local range more than later generations (Fig 3D, Figure S15.3). This appears to fit a model of individuals of central/northern European ancestry migrating and settling in Collegno amongst a set of local individuals of primarily Italian origin.

>southern

How will Nordfags ever recover?

>We focused on artifacts potentially associated with either specific cultural traditions (e.g. S-brooches and stamped pottery: see details in Supplementary Text S14) or individual profession or status (e.g. war weapons). In both
Szólád and Collegno individuals with N ancestry were significantly more often buried with grave goods (p-value < 0.0071, Table S14.2). In contrast, no S individual was buried with such artifacts, with only two exceptions (females SZ19 and SZ31). This association between genetic ancestry and material culture is particularly significant for beads (from necklaces and pendants) and food offerings in Szólád, as well as weapons in both Collegno and Szólád (Table S14.4)
Romans absolutely BTFO. Based Barbarians.

>Admits to helping bring on the Dark Ages

So this is how civilization ends - thrown into a ditch by her barbaric conquerors. This is just sad.

Who knew Italians from Tuscan to Naples were da reel Romans?

>Lombards in Italy

They were proto-vikings on horse who enslaved native males and mixed with native females.

>brings dark ages
>nothing personnel...Romans

>In contrast with the Goths and the Vandals, the Lombards left Scandinavia and descended due south through Germany, Austria and Slovenia, only leaving Germanic territory a few decades before reaching Italy. The Lombards would have consequently remained a predominantly Germanic tribe by the time they invaded Italy.The DNA samples from Campobasso in Molise and Benevento in Campania can give a good idea of what proportion of each Germanic haplogroup the Lombards carried. Campobasso was founded by the Lombards are lost its importance after Lombard rule. Benevento was the seat of a powerful Lombard duchy. Among the Germanic haplogroups identified in Campobasso by Boattini et al. (2013) there were 16% of I1, 10.5% of R1b-U106 and 3.5% of I2a2a. No R1a was found. The same study reported 5.5% of R1a, 2.5% of I1, and 2.5% of R1b-U106 in Benevento. If we make the average, the Lombards seem to have had roughly 40% of I1, 30% of R1b, 25% of R1a and 5% of I2a2a, a frequency comparable to that of modern Sweden.

>inb4 Dark Ages nun reel despite archaelogical evidence showing a downhill slide and lack of human accomplishment as noted by Charles Murray

Jokes apart Lombards were scandos who enslaved Meds and took their women as concubines. Ultra CHADS.

More like violent retarded chimps.

So ancient and early medieval historians were basically right.

About the Romans being largely swarthy Meds and not Brad Pitt outside of exceptions? Yeah.

It also means that ancient North Italians were more similar to South Italians than modern ones. So some replacement did happen.

No it doesn't. Use your brains.

For people on foot, fighting, and foraging in a desperate time, it's pretty fucking far.

What clades of R1a?

>Southern leaning samples that are more like Sicilians found in Northern Italy
>Not high-status
>Doubt they were imported slaves

Follow your advice.

They are from a long time after Roman multiculturalism started. They even found a Roman imported Arab gladiator in UK.
There were many more Arabs in Italy.
We need older samples before the mixing happened.

>masters of the whole Europe
>wealthiest people on Earth
>well educated, smart, beautiful
>Lombards invade
>your wife and daughter are raped and become concubines of your conquerors
>they steal all your shit
>they make you their slave
>when you die they throw your corpse into a ditch
Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short indeed. Hobbes was right.

>Arab gladiator in UK.

So not a peasant.

>There were many more Arabs in Italy.

After the Lombards invaded.

Won't let go of Nord Rome.

He was right on lots of stuff. If only the intellectuals sided with him instead of fags like Rousseau and Voltaire.

>Nord Rome
>paper literally proves that North Italians were more like South Italians
Are you that retarded Pole?

Can you eleborate? I'm a brainlet.

Hobbes was basically an uber-statist who advocated using power, repression, fear, etc. in order to maintain a state's power because humans are fundamentally awful creatures and the way any of them are ever going to reach some sense of order is if you beat them into submission.

the second user was saying that if modern western thought was built off that, instead of the more humanistic liberalism of Rosseau and Voltaire, we'd have a better society, for whatever reason you want to argue.

See:
People with Italian ancestry (S) were buried without any artifacts (except for two Italian females) while people with Germanic ancestry (N) were buried with grave goods. This is 6th century after the Lombards conquered North Italy.

Thanks lads.

>first Bell Beakers from Germany
>now this
Apologize for your crimes against humanity and civilization.

Fucking r*sties

Here's the PCA chart.

...

What's wrong the authors of this study, do they hate French or something ?

The sampling for French is utterly dishonest. It includes only two samples, an actual French who cluster right in middle of CEU, and a "French" who cluster near... the Basques! The authors seem to have done this to make the "French" group ""conveniently"" cluster near CL102(it actually cluster with Swisses), just to claim that: "we inferred (using an adapted version of Spatial Ancestry Analysis, SPA, Supplementary Text S13) that the other parent likely possessed an ancestry that most resembled modern day French individuals (Figures S13.5-6). This latter individual would probably have been female."

we wuz proto-vikangz

Italians are cuckolds

There's nothing wrong with hating the French. In fact, everyone should.
The French hate genetic testing on their ancients.
This is because French archeology is "anti-fascist" and the IE migration is seen as having fascist undertones by them.

>French archeology is "anti-fascist" and the IE migration is seen as having fascist undertones by them
Source ?

Let's be serious, they deserved it for the Celtic holocaust.

Lombard have nothing to do with celts

>In contrast, no S individual was buried with such artifacts, with only two exceptions (females SZ19 and SZ31). This association between genetic ancestry and material culture is particularly significant for beads (from necklaces and pendants) and food offerings in Szólád, as well as weapons in both Collegno and Szólád (Table S14.4)
Those were Romans.

Say the French soyboy who had to give his own daughter to Norse king to spare Paris from another invasion.

>French soyboy
The Carolingians were Belgian not French

>his own daughter
Rollo married a random girl of unknown background, it would not suprise if shr was some low-status whore.

>to spare Paris from another invasion
French literally GAULED Vikangs more than 17 times in less than 30 years.

Now that the Romans were more like South Italians the question is: Are they White?

Daily reminder that the Merovingians belonged to the G2a haplogroup. Based farmers returned to re-create Europe after it was destroyed by G*rmanic scum.

The absolute state of frog education...

>no argument
The absolute state of American """""""""""education"""""""""""

Richer of Reims, Four Books of History, Book 1, Chapter 5
>In Neustria, he(Odo of France) vanquished seven times in ranged battle the pirates(snowniggers); he also routed them nine times.
Richer of Reims, Four Books of History, Book 1, Chapter 5

you're not a celt Pierre

Yeah
I remember the Byzantines laughing at the Lombards because the Lombards were proud of being "nobles" while Byzantines inherited a more civilized and evolved society with far less disparity from the Western Romans, they saw them as Barbarians with primitive customs such as nobility, lords and all that shit, glad the Byzantines kept the important areas safe from these primitives and later the Franks finished the jobs.

>Franks finished the jobs.

Killing snownegroes is our Job, Med bro'

Ummm

Hmmm

Nice darkened version

Nope. Your version obviously has some weird kind of filter tho.

Anyway, if you don't like Louis the Pious, what about his son Lothar ?

He was complicit in the breakup of the Frankish Empire, hardly someone worth idolising.

Then again, swartoids don't have much competition.

I do not idolise any C*rolingians. The Frankish Empire was a Ripuarian creation, thus the flawed product of a greatly mongrelized race. Only the Kingdom of the Franks under the Merovingians and the Robertians, and Franconia under the Salians are praiseworthy imo.

Interesting perspective

Sw*rthoid are shivering !

My question is the following:
How in the hell were they able to submit a much larger population that had better weapons,, was more civilized than them and better infrastructure? This leaves me dazzled

The answer is in the study

>Nords = Buried with complete armaments
>Meds =Buried with no weapons

Romans had no weapons?

Aside from border populations like Gauls and Illyrians, Roman civilians weren't allowed to carry weapons. Obviously, Germanics would've not allowed their newly conquered subjects to carry weapons and potentially overthrow them.

Didn't Romans have a standing army? Is it because of the Gothic wars?