Effect of spice trade on euro cuisine

If western europeans were so obsessed with buying indian spices, why is west european cuisine devoid of indian spices? Why dont the dutch and english use curry?

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The fuck u talks nag about brits favorite dish is chicken Tikal's masla

they'd add the spices to european bases like oats

Western Euro court cuisine was extremely into spices during until the 18th (and to a degree 19th) century.

Also, Indians don't use "curry". That is indeed a Brit thing.

This is interesting: thespruce.com/the-history-of-dutch-food-1128376

Claims Dutch food used to be pretty spicy but then it went out of fashion.

As an American curry seems more British than anything else

>pretty spicy but then it went out of fashion.
This is the story of French and English food as well. Probably something to do with the Industrial revolution, idk.

>That is indeed a Brit thing.
Then why is the majority of british dishes utterly spiceless?

Way to take a massively interesting and complex topic and reduce it to a drive by shitpost.

Except they're not.

mate curry is the national dish for bongs

because many spiced dishes were exclusive to the upper class. They weren't just shit you could buy at the cafe I assume

>why don't the English use curry?
Are you fucking braindead? Admittedly traditional British cuisine uses salt, herbs or sauces (if anything) over spices most of the time, but curry is very popular. It just doesn't have enough impact to alter the entire cuisine. More modern British restaurants are naturally a bit more experimental and multicultural.

They came there primarily for tobacco, pepper and tea

>pepper
>nutmeg
>cinnamon
>ginger

>not English

Is there curry in blood sausage, kidney pie, shepard's pie, bangers, jellied eel, etc.?

Spices were very expensive to import and were reserved mostly for the rich. The commoners that could get access to spices saved them for special occasions, hence why the holidays are traditionally full of spiced foods, mainly cinnamon, cloves, and cardamom.

Here is the only spice you need.

Oh, forgot nutmeg. Jas Townsend and Sons would be disappoint.

What I don't get is all the jokes about wypipo being unable to handle anything spicier than salt when wypipo kicked the world's nuts in just to get some decent cumin.

You know Brits don't exclusively live on just those items you retard.

Brits invented many curries, tikka masala and Coronation chicken for example

You realize that "curry" is a broad term for any meat or vegetable dish in a thick gravy, right? When you say "curry" as though it is a single spice, you are probably thinking of garam masala, which is a combination of spices, the particular ingredients and ratios of which vary but typically include black pepper, mace, cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, and nutmeg--all of which are common in British cuisine

>oiled egg yolk is a spice
are you trying to make the "white people can't handle spicy food" meme true

>Why dont the dutch and english use curry?
Is this a fucking joke? Curry is used extensively in modern British and Dutch cuisine, you can't fucking go to a restaurant without at least one item on the menu having curry in it. Chicken tikka masala is the God damned national dish of the UK for crying out loud.

Curry is an important ingredience in a lot of sauces like remoulade and plain old ketchup

>ingredience
That's a spelling mistake but it shouldn't be.

Parsley just doesn't do it for me bud. Mint is nice and spicy though.

Cumin was already grown in Europe... the poor man's pepper.

u wot m8?

"The ingredients of a traditional bottle of Worcestershire sauce sold in the UK as "The Original & Genuine Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce" are:

Barley malt vinegar
Spirit vinegar
Molasses
Sugar
Salt
Anchovies
Tamarind extract
Onions
Garlic
Spice
Flavourings

The "flavourings" are believed to include soy sauce, lemons, pickles and peppers."

>why is west european cuisine devoid of indian spices
The fuck? Euro cuisine is crammed with spice usage, just not with indian recipes.

Also for most of the middle ages spices were more about food preservation and medicinal use than taste anyway.

In 18th century French cuisine caught on. It was all about pure taste of ingredients and shitloads of spices didn't fit in.