how were they colonized
If africans had advanced iron smelting before Europeans
Nicholas Kelly
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Parker Barnes
Why do they feel they have to always compare with Europe? Literally evert sentence was >we had that before dem europeans!1
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Adam Gomez
Who the fuck is this nobody?
Why are you posting this on Veeky Forums?
Wyatt Rivera
wanted to see if its accurate
Brandon Cox
WE WUZ BLACKSMITHS AN SHEEIT
Jackson Williams
Yet african people seem "better" to other peoples. You may hate that, but you cannot deny that african influence overwhelms other cultures'.
Michael Kelly
Colombian Muisca people also had smelting, in fact their metalworking skills were so advanced that their jewlery was probably the most detailed and ornate in the world at the time.
They still got BTFO and conquered by the Incas. Metalworking is not some magical technology that makes you advance through the ages and gain access to a whole tech tree like in Age of Empires.
The Romans had steam engines but they never developed trains. The Incas had metalworking but their armies still used slingshots, bowmen and spearmen. Koreans were among the first to use gunpowder and rocketry but they never figured out firearms on their own.
Technological progress is not linear.
Adam Russell
>their armies
That's because it was a multi-ethnic army.
Coastal soldiers used axes and stone maces.
Amazonial soldiers prefered bows and "cervatanas".
Andean soldiers used slingshots, mainly bronze spears, bronze axes, stone maces etc...
Landon Bell
>the muisca got conquered by the incas
that never happened. The closest the incas got to enter to modern Colombia was to one of the southernmost departments (Nariño) The muiscas were concentrated in the centereast of modern Colombia.
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Bentley Jones
>the muiscas lived in the amazonas
no... they lived in the highlands of central Colombia
Carter Hughes
I'm talking about incan army.
Blake Thomas
Yeah, I think I got them mixed up with the Chimu, who were indeed conquered by the Incas and were also great metalworkers.
You get the point however. Just because the Inca Empire adquired metalworking doesn't mean they were going to develop full mail armor and longswords.
Technology doesn't work that way.
It's not a linear progression.
There's usually some sort of problem or pressure that forces a people to develop a workaround.
Jeremiah Nguyen
>1. In the West African city of Djenné, cataract removal surgery was a common practice when Europe had no such thing.
Sounds like an Arab thing which ultimately came from Greek stuff.
>2. Africans in Rwanda and Uganda were reported to have been perfroming consistently reliable c sections in the 1800s with an expertise that implied the practice was in fact much older.
Who is Julius Caesar?
>3. The Massai people figured out how to stitch blood vessels and intestines using ants.
Okay?
>4. The Akan people in Ghana people were able to immunise themselves from smallpox at a time where smallpox was ravaging the native Americans and colonialists.
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Seems true.
>5. The Haya people of Tanzania were smelting iron to make high quality carbon steel at up to 1800 degrees celsius for over 2000 years. Europe was not able to duplicate this practice of creating high quality steel until the industrial revolution in the 18th century.
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Garbage
Matthew Morris
. Africans in Rwanda and Uganda were reported to have been perfroming consistently reliable c sections in the 1800s with an expertise that implied the practice was in fact much older.
>Who is Julius Caesar?
NVM this is stupid. Caesar's or his ancestor's mom would probably have been dead or dying.
Blake Nguyen
it was people exploiting other people with the power of hierarchical arbitration, nothing new and certainly nothing to do with phylogeny.
Parker Bailey
>if africans had advanced iron smelting before Europeans
>how were they colonized
If Gaul had Iron making and proto-steel foundries Just like the Romans they couldn't possibly have been conquered by them, right? I mean, they're the same.
....Except Rome was better organized. It had established systems to reinforce armies. A uniform military doctrine and fighting methodology. Uniform equipment that complimented established tactics. Established routes for resupply and road networks that allowed reinforcements to arrive quickly and allowed supply depots running the length and breadth of their state to be reliably resupplied. And to top it all off they were completely unified in both military and political philosophy (at least at the time).
So maybe, just maybe, conquest is about more than a few key technologies and toys. Yes, metalworking helps you stay independent. But it's also really important to be politically unified in a large indivisible entity and organized in such a manner as to frustrate an opponents belligerent actions while enhancing your own and equally as important to all this are the funds you use to grease the wheels you turn.
Adrian Perez
. The Haya people of Tanzania were smelting iron to make high quality carbon steel at up to 1800 degrees celsius for over 2000 years. Europe was not able to duplicate this practice of creating high quality steel until the industrial revolution in the 18th century.
How is it garbage. They did make steel ana oldass guy redid the steps.
Bentley Lopez
Depends really some places staved off colonialism because they had that and other weapons too. the Asante kingdom beat the British a few times before being conquered, and the Dahomey kingdom beat the French a few times before being conquered as well.(both had fire arms) Ethiopia proves that a well trained African army can beat Europeans for a brief amount of time.
Justin Torres
Fun fact
The ajuraan Sultanate (Somali) was able to successfully defeat Portugal in naval combat.
Portuguese were also fought off in the Senegal river by war canoes of the Songhai.
Tyler Carter
I'd like to see they do it when not fighting 20:1