>Augustus was described as swarthy

Why don't they say gold instead of "inclined" to it? So was he a light brunette instead?

>He can't name total Nords with swarthy skin and hook noses
Augustus was more tanned than swarthy, and aquiline is not hooked in a jewish sence.

So, Augustus was predominantly Nordic with Dinaric/Keltic influences.

I wonder if Suetonius actually hated him. His description of Augustus is ridiculous.

>numerous callous places resembling ringworm, caused by a constant itching of his body and a vigorous use of the •strigil. He was not very strong in his left hip, thigh, and leg, and even limped slightly at times; but he strengthened them by treatment with sand and reeds.113 He sometimes found the forefinger of his right hand so weak, when it was numb and shrunken with the cold, that he could hardly use it for writing even with the aid of a finger-stall of horn. He complained of his bladder too, and was relieved of the pain only after passing stones in his urine.

>Augustus was more tanned than swarthy
>tanned

And how did he get that? At the beach?

I love him the way he is, doesn't matter.

No you fucking idiot, he got it at the ancient Roman tanning salon built by Nubians

>for he was commonly ailing just before his birthday; and at the beginning of spring he was troubled with an enlargement of the diaphragm, and when the wind was in the south, with catarrh. Hence his constitution was so weakened that he could not readily endure either cold or heat.

>Yet he could not endure the sun even in winter, and never walked in the open air without wearing a broad-brimmed hat, even at home. He travelled in a litter, usually at night, and by such slow and easy stages that he took two days to go to Praeneste or Tibur; and if he could reach his destination by sea, he preferred to sail.
Seriously, what the fuck? It sounds like Augustus was constantly on the verge of death, lol.

>And how did he get that? At the beach?
Pic related
II and III scales are Tan skin colour, which still can be seen as Nordic.

Especially II

The whole thing is actually really funny.

>To divert his mind he sometimes angled and sometimes played at dice, marbles and nuts119 with little boys, searching p251 everywhere for such as were attractive for their pretty faces or their prattle, especially Syrians or Moors; for he abhorred dwarfs, cripples, and everything of that sort, as freaks of nature and of ill omen.
So he was a pedo who was into Syrian and Moor boys?

Looks french desu.

Why does he have DUMBO ears lmao
Reminds me of

Our emperor.

>This is what we are told of his attitude towards matters of religion.130 He was somewhat weak in his fear of thunder and lightning, for he always carried a seal-skin about with him everywhere as a protection, and at any sign of a violent storm took refuge in an underground p261 vaulted room

Augustus was more Aryan looking than most Nazi leadership, desu senpai.

>Aryan looking

So they were swarthies and hook noses?

>Yet he could not endure the sun even in winter, and never walked in the open air without wearing a broad-brimmed hat, even at home.
I'm sure he was just really tanned, lol.

Most Nazi leadership looked like Sicilian mobsters, senpai.

So did Augustus.

This man is pure aryan tf you talking about

>Negative chin
Imagine being in the vaunted SS, the best Aryans Germany has to offer, and THIS is your boss

>swarthy
vague as fuck

Jesus Christ that looks pathetic

Here's another Aryan, pure in blood and heart. Never commiting evil against his own.

>Never commiting evil against his own
This, only underage German girls were prey to the DirleWANGER

nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature23310.html

>We estimated the fixation index, FST, of Bronze Age populations with present-day West Eurasians, finding that Mycenaeans were least differentiated from populations from Greece, Cyprus, Albania, and Italy (Fig. 2), part of a general pattern in which Bronze Age populations broadly resembled present-day inhabitants from the same region (Extended Data Fig. 7).
>Italy
>Cyprus

Swarthy.

The Lombard paper had its Italian samples be grouped with South Italians.

No, Augustus was Aryan.

Stormfags who loathe wogs so have to spread memes about muh everyone was nordic

>From Central Italy
>Aryan

Central Italy was Aryan land back then.

>He can't show Central Italians genetically group with Nordics

>muh swathy

>between light and dark
>is Italian

Yes swarthy.

and this is a roman woman of color

...

>a fucking unibrow
jesus

Them Romanz were Nordics!!!

That's right! The Italians of today are not native. Once the ice age comes again, they'll be uncomfortable because Italians aren't used to cold weather and deep, dark, forests!

This kills the m*Dshit

See

We already have

Maybe some of native subhumans were swarthy, but Indo-Germanic invaders were Nordic :)

>Indo-Germanic

wE

>make fun of afrocentrism
>make exact claims themselves

The Romans can really trace their ancestry back to the Phoenicians. Oh and the Romans got their asses kicked, and had a LOT of trouble trying to conquer northern Europe. Conclusion: The Romans were THE first Shit skin invaders of Europe...

>but Indo-Germanic invaders were Nordic
By the time they settled in Central and Western Europe, they were already mixed with pre-existing popualtions of Europe.

Doesn't look as dopey-eyed as his busts. He looks wired

>The Steppes are Nordic

Okay.

I'm not him.

>The verifiable claim that modern Italians are, to some degree, genetically congruous with Romans is somehow the same as Afro-Americans claiming to universally be descended from space faring fictional kings and queens with elongated skulls and laser vision that gives whites skin cancer
What are you smoking?

There are native Italians with blond hair, friend. Why, even southerners can present with blond/chestnut hair and blue or green eyes.

...

>The Romans can really trace their ancestry back to the Phoenicians.

No those are the Sardinians

Well, duh. Southern Italians are certainly more closely related to the Romans and Hellenes than the north. However, this meme of southerners somehow all being dark skinned gypsies is spurious. There are plenty of lighter skinned southerners, native to the region, that have hair and eyes that are shades other than black and brown.

I'm speaking about nordicism

The funny thing is, Germanics were described as having red, not blond hair.

>All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them.
From Germania.

You are fucking stupid.
Blondes are NOT uncommon in Italy.

Less common than in Northern Europe, yes, but you can find blondes everywhere just by walking the streets in Italy.

Looks like me o_o

I'm part french, part Italian though.

Does Mark Antony have the typical Italian look?

youtube.com/watch?v=k9ku4S5Q2kY

Yes.

>shitty map
>anime picture on the left
Classic.

I don't understand why it has the 0-10% shit, it groups people like South Italians who do have light brown hair and a small percentage of blonde and red hair with Subsaharian Africans, Amerindians and Chinese who have 0% of those, it's very deceiving

Because it shows exclusively blond hair.
You are right though, it can be deceiving that way.

Brown hair is probably the most common hair color in Italy.

Nordic is a race, not an ethnic categorization.
Some Italians are Nordic to this day.

1. No such thing as race. Ethnicity yes.

2. Mediterraneans can be blonde too. Or have light brown hair.
Blonde hair doesn't imply Nordic or German blood.

>1. No such thing as race.
Wishful thinking, mutt.
>Mediterraneans can be blonde too
No they can't.

Nordic and Mediterrenean had always been racial categories, using them in ethnic manner is dumd and misleading. There is not even such thing as "mediterrenean culture" to begin with.

It is true that, Augustus had blonde hair.
Just like Alexander the great had blonde hair and a brown and blue eye.

italy has done some interbreeding with arabs and greece has done a shit load of that.

>Sub-flavum
>blonde haired
Stopped reading. Obviously this chart was put togheter by some butthurt varg fanboy,

>No they can't.
Yes, they can. This is a proven fact. There were blond meds long before they ever came into contact with nordics.
>there's no such thing as a Mediterranean culture
You're an overly confident, low IQ idiot who seems to relish making sweeping statements. Either learn to substantiate your claims and engage in discourse beyond ad hominem or fuck off.

Yes, it means blond.

>There were blond meds long before they ever came into contact with nordics
[citation needed]
Also just a reminder: all Indo-Germanic volks were Nordic.
>You're an overly confident, low IQ idiot
Not an argument.
Nordic and Mediterrenean are both purely racial terms.
And yes, there is no such thing as "mediterrenean culture". A french from Provence has little to do with a jew from Tel-Aviv and to a Turk from southern coast. The only reason why are they being grouped together, apart from geography are their racial types.

>Also just a reminder: all Indo-Germanic volks were Nordic.
Especially the ones that mixed with natives of Europe in Central and Western Europe, amirite?

>Especially the ones that mixed with natives of Europe in Central and Western Europe, amirite?
They were still predominantly Nordic.

>They were still predominantly Nordic.
Do you have the evidence for Central and Western European descendants of IE to be "Nordic" ? Or did you just pull it out from your ass.

Because let me assure you. IE mixed with all of the native populations of Europe.

>Central and Western European descendants of IE to be "Nordic" ?

Looks like my albanian neighbour. Holy fuck man.... dey wuz kangz.

>asked for eveidence of Nordid phenotype being the most dominant among descendants of IE in West and Central Europe
>get some meme map done by Nazi pseudoscientists
I asked you for a proof that descendants of IE in Central and Western Europe were mostly Nordid. You have no proof.

And there is no such thing as "Ostbaltische rasse" and it's certainly not most common among Slavs, but Finns and Lapids.

>pseudoscientists
>professor at the university

>Gunther
>reliable source
Let me rephrase it to you, because you clearly have some problems with understanding. Well, if IE mixed with European natives(and they did) then their offsipring surely wasn't Nordid. That's not how it works.

And Gunther was a retard that fused East Cromagnids with some imaginary Ostbaltische rasse. I have no respect for such fuckery.

>work of the Professor at the university of Berlin is not valid because you don't like him
"Ok"
also
>East Cromagnids
>brachy subhumans with obvious mongolization

>work of the Professor at the university of Berlin
You mean pure pro-German propaganda? He was just as much of a professor as some drunken hobbo on the street.

>cromagnids
>mongoloid
Okay, now I've seen everything. Protip: IE's were a mix of Nordid + East Cromagnid. Especially the ones in Central and North-East Europe.

>[citation needed]
In the Iliad and Odyssey, key figures of the same grouping are described as having anything from blond hair and blue eyes, to chestnut hair and green eyes, to raven hair and grey eyes. Achilles, especially, is notable for having golden hair. These are all native peoples of the Mediterranean. In the early Republic of Rome, we have reports of famous statesman also having brown hair, blond hair etc. Naturally, this was all long before any interaction with the Nordics. To this day plenty of old Italian families, in both the north and south, present with brown and blond hair and eye colours other than brown.To claim that all tribes of the Mediterranean, or that all modern residents of Italy, had slick, black hair, brown skin, and brown eyes would therefore be unfounded.

But let's get to the heart of the issue; you're obviously a nordalist, meaning you want to divorce modern meds from their history in an attempt to somehow grant it to Scandinavians and Germanics for reasons of racial supremacy. This is unwise and unfair. Genetic testing has shown that modern day Greeks are highly, highly congruous with the Hellenes of old - far more than any other modern nation state. Genetic testing has also shown, as already mentioned in this thread, that southern Italians - the so called terrone - actually also evidence high levels of congruity with the ancient Greco-Romans of old, whereas there is no such genetic congruity with modern day Germans or Swedish etc. Therefore, it is far likelier that these blond/brown haired Romans simply descended from a Mediterranean tribe/family that possessed such traits.

You're beginning with a racialist desire and attempting to find proof for its validity. This is unscientific; you might as well be one of those Afro-centrists that, as a result of jealously and base resentment, like to make ridiculous claims about the magic of melanin and the ability of the black man to project lasers. You're on that level.

poolacken and russians are not cromagnid, they are borealized/infantilized mutts of Nordic, cromagnid and mongoloid.
>Iliad and Odyssey
Both written after the Indo-Germanic invasion.

What you're claiming is "short-skulled east baltid mongoloid turanoid" is actually an East Cromagnid native. Corded Ware were mixed with those people, so typical Corded Ware male and woman in Central and Eastern Europe would look like a mix between Corded and East Cromagnid. Besides, East Baltid was never common in this region. And West Baltids and East Cromagnids are pretty much the same.

Gunther was a butthurt pseud motivated by obvious need of elevating Germans above other people in Europe, take his outdated crap with a grain of salt and then we can talk like adults.

>In the Iliad and Odyssey, key figures of the same grouping are described as having anything from blond hair and blue eyes, to chestnut hair and green eyes, to raven hair and grey eyes. Achilles, especially, is notable for having golden hair. These are all native peoples of the Mediterranean
The Greeks were Nordic

>What you're claiming is "short-skulled east baltid mongoloid turanoid" is actually an East Cromagnid native
Lol no.
Cromagnids were dolichocephalic, robust athletic, had large browridges, broad nose, broad face.
Modern poolacken rarely have all these features.

>dolichocephalic
>had large browridges, broad nose, broad face.
:^)

What's your point?

That you need to grow up and read actual scientific studies instead of blindly following pseudoscience from Gunther's butthurt ass.

>Both written after the Indo-Germanic invasion
Where is your proof for this "invasion?" And, as follows, this would simply mean that the majority of modern Greeks and Italians were descended from Indo-Germanic ancestors, meaning you still wouldn't have any claim to their history.