I wonder what was Hitler's IQ

>most intelligent wasn't even a Nazi
>least intelligent spent his time with the party entirely focused on writing anti-Semitic texts

hmm, makes me think...

And he looked like Italian.

From what I understand there is no positive correlation between psychopathy and IQ. In fact people with lower IQs are slightly more likely to develop psychopathic traits. I think Hitler wasn't an impulsive behavioral psychopath but a sociopath who can give out ruthless orders and the ability to distance himself from his victims. We know he pardoned Jews he knew personally and had a loving relationship with his mother, and despite this he believed much of the propaganda he espoused, which to me hints at a paranoid personality disorder. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

My thoughts exactly.

I'd say less /r9k/ and more /k/.

I don't know how Goering got 138 did he get lucky on multiple choice? lol

Goering was smart and played during Nuremberg trials like a champ. But he was a huge junky, he liked oxy and morphine.

I think Hitler wasn't dumb. Certainly evil, but not nearly as dumb as often suggested. I just found an excellent YT channel with a video that explains Hitler's strategic decisions of WW2: youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg

Yeah, TIK is a great guy.

Regardless of his IQ he clearly had some extremely debilitating behavior disorder or personality disorder.

Like all inteligent people.

Evil is almost always selfish, hitler believed in a theory of whatever it takes for the greater good. In many aspects he was utilitarian, does that excuse his actions and the actions of his subjects? No, not really, but does that make him evil, no, not nessisarily

I don't even think they truly believed in the entire Aryan Nordic larping nonsense.

I can't imagine Himmler looking at a blonde tall Russian/Polack and thinking: fuck this guy looks like a textbook Aryan but is still inferior t me and needs to die.

It was all political.

I can't grasp how fucked up one's mind must be to consider Hitler's goals the greater good.
How on earth can you still believe you're doing something good whilst murdering even countless children...
Of course it was about power, it always is

Not to mention stripping the freedom from billions yet unborn.

The US regularly slaughters civilians and children in Afghanistan and Syria and many would consider it for the greater good. It's not difficult to imagine.

And the US (especially within the CIA) is made up of many former Nazis and their supporters.

>Joachim von Ribbentrop
>129
did not stopped him from acting like an autist while visiting Turkey which brought Turks into the allied camp

>did not stopped him from acting like an autist while visiting Turkey which brought Turks into the allied camp

>only Turkey
He was pretty autistic overall. Should I post the pastas?

Not giving a fuck about collateral damage and murdering entire ethnicities are two different pair of shoes, wouldn't you say?

Hitler was the last war chief of all history
he is the most famous guy of humanity right after jesus
the strongest laws in Europe are written because of him
Everything that happens politically right now is a consequence of Hitler's actions
He made mistakes but you can't deny that he had something unnatural in his mind.
How many people still get chills when they watch some wehrmacht footage ?
He had a sixth sense

go on, this one isnt it I bealive

High inteligence + meth = God

Ribbentrop was such a trainwreck, I can't resist listing his fuckups at length:

>A former teacher recalled that Ribbentrop "was the most stupid in his class, full of vanity and very pushy""

>Joseph Goebbels expressed a common view when he confided to his diary that "Von Ribbentrop bought his name, he married his money and he swindled his way into office"

>One German diplomat later recalled that "Ribbentrop didn't understand anything about foreign policy. His sole wish was to please Hitler".[28] In particular, Ribbentrop acquired the habit of listening carefully to what Hitler was saying, memorizing his pet ideas, and then later presenting Hitler's ideas as his own

>Ribbentrop informed Hitler that all elements of British society wished for closer ties with Germany. His report delighted Hitler, causing him to remark that Ribbentrop was the only person who told him "the truth about the world abroad".[43] Because the Foreign Office's diplomats were not so sunny in their appraisal of the prospects for an alliance, Ribbentrop's influence with Hitler increased

>Ribbentrop's time in London was marked by an endless series of social gaffes and blunders that worsened his already poor relations with the British Foreign Office.

>Ribbentrop often displayed a fundamental misunderstanding of British politics and society. During the abdication crisis of December 1936, Ribbentrop reported to Berlin that it had been precipitated by an anti-German Jewish-Masonic-reactionary conspiracy to depose Edward (whom Ribbentrop represented as a staunch friend of Germany), and that civil war would soon break out in Britain between the supporters of the king and those of Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin. Ribbentrop's civil-war statements were greeted with incredulity by those British people who heard them

>Ribbentrop had a habit of summoning tailors from the best British firms, making them wait for hours, then sending them away without seeing him but with instructions to return the next day, only to repeat the process. This did immense damage to his reputation in British high society, as London's tailors retaliated by telling all their well-off clients that Ribbentrop was impossible to deal with.[28] In an interview, his secretary Reinhard Spitzy stated "He [Ribbentrop] behaved very stupidly and very pompously and the British don't like pompous people."[28] In the same interview, Spitzy called Ribbentrop "pompous, conceited and not too intelligent", and stated he was an utterly insufferable man to work for.

>Ribbentrop chose to spend as little time as possible in London in order to stay close to Hitler, which irritated the British Foreign Office immensely, as Ribbentrop's frequent absences prevented the handling of many routine diplomatic matters.[67] (Punch referred to him as the "Wandering Aryan" for his frequent trips home.)[68] As Ribbentrop alienated more and more people in Britain, Göring warned Hitler that Ribbentrop was a "stupid ass".[28] Hitler dismissed Göring's concerns: "[b]ut after all, he knows quite a lot of important people in England." This remark led Göring to reply "Mein Führer, that may be right, but the bad thing is, they know him."

>In November 1937, Ribbentrop was placed in a highly embarrassing situation, when his forceful advocacy of the return of the former German colonies led to an offer to open talks on returning the former German colonies, in return for which the Germans would make binding commitments to respect their borders in central and eastern Europe.[83] Ribbentrop was forced to turn down the Anglo-French offer that he had largely brought about. Immediately after turning down the offer, Ribbentrop, for reasons of pure malice, ordered the Reichskolonialbund to increase the agitation for the former German colonies, a move that exasperated both the Foreign Office and the Quai d'Orsay.[84]

>Ribbentrop's inability to achieve the alliance that he had been sent to conclude frustrated him, as he feared it could cost him Hitler's favour, and it made him a bitter Anglophobe.[85] As the Italian Foreign Minister, Count Galeazzo Ciano, noted in his diary in late 1937, Ribbentrop had come to hate Britain with all the "fury of a woman scorned".[86] Ribbentrop (and Hitler for that matter) never understood that British foreign policy aimed at the appeasement of Germany, not an alliance.[87]

>Believing himself to be in a state of disgrace with Hitler over his failure to achieve the British alliance, Ribbentrop spent December 1937 in a state of depression, and wrote two lengthy documents for Hitler denouncing Britain.[84] In the first of his two reports to Hitler, which was presented on 2 January 1938, Ribbentrop stated that "England is our most dangerous enemy"

>Ciano complained in his diary that his arguments "had no effect" on Ribbentrop, who simply refused to believe any information that did not fit in with his preconceived notions.[165] Despite Ciano's efforts to persuade Ribbentrop to put off the attack on Poland until 1942, so as to allow the Italians time to get ready for war, Ribbentrop was adamant that Germany had no interest in a diplomatic solution of the Danzig question and only wanted a war to wipe Poland off the map.[165] The Salzburg meeting marked the moment when Ciano's dislike of Ribbentrop was transformed into outright hatred, and of the beginning of his disillusionment with the pro-German foreign policy that he had championed up to that time

>On 25 August 1939, Ribbentrop's influence with Hitler wavered for a moment when the news reached Berlin of the ratification of the Anglo-Polish military alliance and a personal message from Mussolini telling Hitler that Italy would dishonour the Pact of Steel if Germany attacked Poland.[181] This was especially damaging to Ribbentrop, as he always assured Hitler that "Italy's attitude is determined by the Rome-Berlin Axis"

>When on the morning of 3 September 1939 Chamberlain followed through with his threat of a British declaration of war if Germany attacked Poland, a visibly shocked Hitler asked Ribbentrop "Now what?", a question to which Ribbentrop had no answer except to state that there would be a "similar message" forthcoming from the French Ambassador Robert Coulondre, who arrived later that afternoon to present the French declaration of war. Weizsäcker later recalled that "On 3 Sept., when the British and French declared war, Hitler was surprised, after all, and was to begin with, at a loss". The British historian Richard Overy wrote that what Hitler thought he was starting in September 1939 was only a local war between Germany and Poland, and his decision to do so was largely based on a vast underestimate of the risks of a general war.

>On 1 March 1940, Ribbentrop received Sumner Welles, the American Under-Secretary of State, who was on a peace mission for President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and did his best to abuse his American guest. Welles reported to Roosevelt that Ribbentrop had a "completely closed and very stupid mind".[203] On 10 March 1940, Ribbentrop visited Rome to meet with Mussolini, who promised him that Italy would soon enter the war.[204] For his one-day Italian trip, Ribbentrop was accompanied by a staff of thirty-five, including a gymnastics coach, a masseur, a doctor, two hairdressers, plus various legal and economic experts from the Foreign Office.[205] After the Italo-German summit at the Brenner Pass on 18 March 1940, which was attended by Hitler and Mussolini, Count Ciano wrote in his diary: "Everyone in Rome dislikes Ribbentrop"

>On 10 May 1940, Ribbentrop summoned the Dutch, Belgian and Luxembourg ambassadors to present them with notes justifying the German invasion of their countries several hours after the Germans had invaded those nations. Someone leaked the plans for the German invasion to the Dutch Embassy in Berlin, which led Ribbentrop to devote the next several months to conducting an unsuccessful investigation into who leaked the news. This investigation tore apart the agency as colleagues were encouraged to denounce each other

>In the fall of 1940, Ribbentrop made a sustained but unsuccessful effort to have Spain enter the war on the Axis side. During his talks with the Spanish foreign minister, Ramón Serrano Súner, Ribbentrop affronted Súner with his tactless behaviour, especially his suggestion that Spain cede the Canary Islands to Germany.[217] An angry Súner replied that he would rather see the Canaries sink into the Atlantic then cede an inch of Spanish territory.

>Reflecting his displeasure with the German Legation in Belgrade, which had advised against pushing Yugoslavia to sign the Tripartite Pact, Ribbentrop refused to have the German Legation withdrawn in advance before Germany bombed Belgrade on 6 April 1941. The staff was left to survive the fire-bombing as best it could.

>When it came to time for Ribbentrop to present the German declaration of war on 22 June 1941 to the Soviet Ambassador, General Vladimir Dekanozov, the translator Paul Schmidt described the scene: "Von Ribbentrop is nervous, walking up and down from one end of his large office to the other, like a caged animal, while saying over and over, "The Führer is absolutely right. We must attack Russia, or they will surely attack us!" Is he reassuring himself? Is he justifying the ruination of his crowning diplomatic achievement? Now he has to destroy it because that is the Führer's wish"

>Another low point in Ribbentrop's relations with the SS occurred in February 1943, when the SD backed a Luther-led internal putsch to oust Ribbentrop as foreign minister.[246] Luther had become estranged from Ribbentrop because Frau Ribbentrop treated Luther as a household servant. She pushed her husband into ordering an investigation into allegations of corruption on Luther's part.[247] Luther's putsch failed largely because Himmler decided that a foreign ministry headed by Luther would be a more dangerous opponent than the Ribbentrop version. At the last minute, he withdrew his support from Luther.

>After Germany's surrender, Ribbentrop was arrested. Found with him was a rambling letter addressed to the British Prime Minister "Winston Churchill" criticizing British foreign policy for anti-German bias, blaming the British for the Soviet occupation of eastern Germany, and for the advance of "Bolshevism" into central Europe

>Highest IQ is the guy who got kicked out of the government for opposing Nazi economic insanity
Really makes one thonk

It was real in their minds.

Hitler had a poop fetish! He shit his pants! Hitler wore diapers! Shitler wore diapers!

>national socialists
>conservative
low iq detected

Dumb question. Obviously it was very low because Rick and Morty didn't exist back then.

Spread the truth brother

every time lol

>"Mein Führer, that may be right, but the bad thing is, they know him."
Kek

This.

Goering was based as fuck. He didn't fuck around.

Bump

Nazis weren't really all that conservative, though. Fascism was actually a pretty radical, progressive ideology at the time. It was just progressive in a different way that modern liberals think of when they hear that word.

You're completely correct about fascism, but nazis were not fascists.

I realize that, but they shared a fair number of similar ideas, and my point still stands. Nazis weren't really "conservatives" at the time. I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest with Nazis, Fascists, and Falangists all arguing over how different they are from each other

When I measured /pol/ as a collective on some political compass site, the result came out progressive. The description mentioned that critics of progressivism refer to it as regressivism, which makes sense since, while 'progressing' human society to its inevitable conclusion, feels as if it's regressing society to animality with the whole idea of social Darwinism and the power of one alpha over the herd. That's not how God made us, we're separate from animals, we are meant to be individually minded people who co-operate in a society for the benefit of all, not like sheep following the leader to our deaths. On the test, I came out as liberal.

>herf derf Jeebus and Gawd!

Do us all a favor and neck yourself, you'll meet your Sky Daddy a lot quicker than waiting around and spewing bullshit into the air.

Which test did you take? I would like to take it, as well, please.

spekr I think it's called but it's 100 questions

Thank you very much, God bless you, sir.