Americans were the underdogs in their Revolutionary War

The French Revolutionary Wars had France in a state of civil war pitted against all the greatest powers of the strongest continent on Earth at the time

Their victory is impressive, even without regarding geographical size

The Great Siege of Gibraltar he is referring to.

The truth never dies. It just gets ignored by fools.

Their ships were far more useful than their gunpowder.

Brings up an interesting question. If the bongs hadn't brought over German mercenaries, would the rest of the Euros have stayed clear of North America?

It's sort of the bong Achilles heel almost to this very day. They LARPed as muh empire but always treatied and schemed and plotted and allied tactically, often flipping and screwing former allies willy nilly afterwards (krauts, frogs, portumoors, clogfaggots, etc.). This went on until the whole LARP came crashing down mid 20th Century. What if they had actually made it a go and not just LARPed?

nothing you just wrote makes any sense.

Neither did muh bong empire, lad.

What was the casus belli of France and Spain for joining in? Or were they already fighting England and just happened to be part of this conflict

Retaking Florida and aquiring eastern Louisiana

FPBP

Nigel please

>implying useless land in south America contributed anything
>implying Britain wasn't more powerful than France or Spain
The American revolution was an underdog fight for the colonists which they won. Stop pretending it wasn't nigel

>implying Britain wasn't more powerful than France or Spain

You're very deluded if you think Britain was more powerful than France

France literally bankrupted itself supporting the mutts

And Spain. That's why there was so much trouble in the South American colonies

Yeah, they just beat France in the 7 years war.
America literally beat the most powerful nation on Earth in its first war

Spain didn't contribute nearly as much as France and it helped settle their debts and made them look strong.
It was Napoleon that caused the latin american struggle

Not alone though. Also
>Winning a war means you were the most powerful
Half the ground forces were french and the critical naval battles were won by them.

>most powerful nation on earth
This better be bait

It isn't, they had the best economy, navy and industry

Britain directly aided spanish american rebels and sent them voluteers while supposedly being their """allies""" it's kind of a meme that all of Spain opposed Joseph Bonaparte's rule. It was mainly the generalship, aristocracy, and some particularly zealous peasantry.

we fought the British the most our allies hardly did anything besides the French

real life is not a pair of cocks game

>What was the casus belli of France and Spain for joining in?

The Eternal Anglo had to be stopped somehow

>they just beat France in the 7 years war.
They had barely defeated a French force they outnumbered 4 to 1 in America, and this while France was focused on the war in Europe
And it took them a whole fucking decade for that

They'd have stood no chance 1vs1 (let alone 1vs2)

>America literally beat the most powerful nation on Earth in its first war
Oh wait...you were merely jestin?

Spain contributed a lot.
But it did not bankrupt itself cause the Spanish PM literally waited to have money to finance the war before declaring it.

That's merely an issue of British incompetence as opposed to the power of Britain.
You underestimate the consequences of the seven years war. Britain was the dominant colonial, naval, economic and industrial power. Only in Europe were they not number 1

They did a great job, they ended up making an even more powerful anglo country, the USA.

The bongs had been using G*Rmoid mercs for well over a century at that point and would continue to until after the era of Napoleon.

Anglo perfidy knows no bounds...

They weren't mercs, they were armies owned and maintained by german princes who rented thme out. The bongs were paying the princes, not the soldiers

Spain was probably more important than France in the war.The continental army was literally armed and equiped by the Spaniards at the beginning of the war which was fundamental at the beginning of the war.They also lent a bunch of money to the US to the point that the spanish real was a valid currency in the US until 1864.The Spanish campaigns in Louisiana,Gibraltar,Menorca and the Caribean where extremelly important in terms of supplying the revolution and holding back the the British forces elsewhere

Veeky Forums legitimately believes this
they also believe that Africa is a country, Middle East has no castles, nazis were merely defending themselves, and Byzantines were Romans