Monero opinions

What do you guys think of Monero. I know this looks like shill post, but I 've been researching and Monero looks like the most promising coin for long term success. Anonymity and and decentralization is the main reason to use cryptocurrency in the first place. That's why it began, Monero is more true to the cypherpunk movement that started all this and gave birth to Bitcoin.

The number one criticism I read is that "governments are sure to ban Monero". I don't believe this is possible. Practically, how would do they this? How would they pen legislation to effectively ban Monero? They can't. Monero, or any crypto coin, is really just code. Are they going to ban the code? Ban any coin named Monero? Ban certain types of crypto code? Ban exchanges from selling it? There's no way to ban Monero without banning all crypto in the process

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you will hold it for months and it will do absolutely nothing, then double in value after you sell

Monero is more "bitcoin" than bitcoin.

Monero is dead thanks to the security holes and lack of real privacy.

XVG is probably the only real privacy coin now that they're adding I2P support.

Look up I2P vs Tor, and you'll see why.

99% of people don't care about privacy that much. Wallets generating new addresses when you send/receive btc is good enough for most people.

What about the zero knowledge coins like ZenCash?

This guy gets it.

This guy doesn’t.

honeypot

People who have more than their lunch money in crypto would be wise to hold 10% in monero

XVG is scam, most people will care about privacy if they know that goverments opens databases from exchanges ( in this case bitcoin is more transparent than a bank account)

THEY DO IT!
useability will monero makeing hit 1000¼ and the darknet is using it massivley.. they make bitcoin big,

Tbh they feel a bit scammy. I'm not overly confident with all the rumours going around at the moment.

What crack are you smoking?

your welcome.

Who is "they"

>Anonymity and decentralization is the main reason to use cryptocurrency in the first place.

Mainstream crypto will focus on security, accessibility and speed. Because normies only want to be safe, use it easily, everywhere and fast. They don't want to be user.

Highly anonymous crypto will always be stained with an "it's for criminals and pedos" feeling. People just don't value anonymity as highly as you or I or anyone on an anonymous messageboard.

For adoption by banks privacy is a necessity. You can't have your customers data on the streets.

well ofc.

>Monero (XMR)
>private af. all you can see is tx id and tx fee
>>xmrchain.net
>not afraid of hardforks.
>no 1MB block limit
>has real research on it. even cryptographers on famous institutions
>not based on 'ye old bitcoin protocol

But it is also a necessity for the customers' data to be visible to the bank, the taxman and both parties of a transaction. Privacy in that sense does not equal anonymity. They want everyone inside a certain circle to have access to some or all of that data while hiding it from anyone outside the system. Truly anonymous coin will always be viewed as shady.

if you send you friend bitcoin he can see how much you own

privacy will matter more and more

you can give them the view key.

Solved by moving it twice. Send it to dummy address, then send to your friend.

You obviously pay the fee twice and it could be improved on, but I am not sure it's enough of a "feature" to justify moving from a widely used crypto to another.

It's like messaging/communication apps. People use whatever is popular and not whatever is best, because when you want to send your friend a text, he won't download the new ultrasafe and improved app you got. He'll just say "Why don't you use viber? Everyone's on it"

I don't realistically hope that banks would endorse or accept a crypto that can actually hide things from them unless the user gives them his permission to view it.

>privacy doesnt matter

Seriously, you niggers saying this need to think this shit through.

Furthermore, anyone sayings this is an opinion I instantly discard.

How fucking unemployed and NEET do you need to be to seriously think financial privacy doesn't matter?

stop thinking of banks and crypto.
in crypto, YOU are your own bank.

Anyway, regarding monero's price

This guy has been pretty dead on with bitcoin's price so far

tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/cVJUZdIF-fibs-predicting-bullish-BTC-price-increase/

Look at what he's calling for monero

tradingview.com/chart/XMRUSD/89VEffxW-Monero-s-dwindling-supply-10k-in-2019-scenario/

You don't know how this works, do you?

Friend could see where dummy address go the btc

And in real life normieland, the bank is the bank.
What's your point?

Monero is hands down the privacy coin. It's also just a ridiculously solid project, no insane marketing, no pump and dumps, just natural growth. After the fork I'm expecting a nice run, and in a year or two $1k a coin.

And how does he know the other address is yours? What if you have multiple addresses in your wallet anyways? He can't be sure how many times you've split your stack and how far back the chain of addresses you actually own.

I already agreed this shit is not optimal and can be improved. I'm just saying not many people will value the extra privacy over the userbase size. Some will, most won't.

No

I agree with this guy, i'm really contemplating to get a decent amount of most of the privacy coins, since they are all cheap as fuck right now, and they eventually beat bitcoin because they are indeed, more bitcoin than bitcoin. Instead of 21 btc, get 21 monero, 2 zcach, 10 dash, pivx, verge, decred, zencash. They will all pump anyway.

Which is a lot cheaper than 21 bitcoin, especially when the state of bitcoin is getting worse and worse

Bitcoin is such a fraud now, it's disgusting cancer.

This is coming from someone who first learned about it in 2011 and bought in 2013. I wish it would fucking die so crypto as a whole can move forward.

XMR and ZEN is all you need. ZEN is good for buying more XMR.
Everything else is trash, except for aeon.

I'ld get those that are currently being used on black markets

which are?

Monero

Nobody trusts zcash or dash anymore

didn't alphabay go down because of zcash?

>Ban exchanges from selling it?
Yes. I don't know how likely it is, but it would almost certainly throttle adoption by normies and make cashing out a lot harder. It would also taint the brand as 'for criminals' even though privacy in commerce is desirable for perfectly law-abiding people.

Not really, no

What happened was after AB was seized, they were able to view the site's wallets and see a specific amount of Bitcoin, a specific amount of Ethereum, a specific amount of zcash, and a completely unknown amount of Monero.

The future will be different than the present boomerfag.

Why doesn’t it have a simple wallet? Or integrate with any existing wallets. This put me off, must be damping adoption

No shit, currency will become completely electronic and modern cash will join ancient greek coins in the museum. Your fridge will also be able to give you a blowjob.

There will be a transition period that will take decades. You'll live through these decades. Feel free to ignore them and keep spamming meme insults.

XVG my man.

Monero's 'guide to private transactions' is 52 fucking steps long

Lol this blatant horseshit.

You literally just use it and it is private by default. That's the whole point. There is no "guide to private transactions".

Keep shilling that XVG crap though.

>look we ripped off Monero's idea to run transactions through I2P, now we're better than them

It's called Kovri and it's more quality code than the entirety of XVG.

its because its private, you need to scan all transactions against your address + view key.
yes ALL.

I don't know how you stupid fucks can do "RESEARCH" and find monero to be promising. How is it promising, you stupid fuck? Outdated blockchain, OUTDATED. 3 transactions second. WHATEVER ignore that. Let's look at VALUE PROPOSITION - ANONYMITY. what does monero do????? ohhhhh it mixes your transactions, how cool, a giant fucking mixer. oooooooh you get 5^n set of anonymity with every transaction, Cooooooooool. KNOW THE FUCKING PROBLEM? QUANTUM FUCKING COMPUTING IS KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR. 5^n BECOMES 5*n YOU STUPID FUCK. in WHAT UNIVESRE in it promising? we have ZK-SNARKS, ANONYMITY SET = WHOLE BLOCKCHAIN, we have ZK-STARKS which DONT EVEN REQUIRE trusted setup, YET YOU STILL FUCKING TELL ME MONERO IS PROMISING? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU>?

more like zk-lol

YOu always see envious fuckers posting about how Monero is worthless because Ethereum is gonna use it and shit

It just proves they have no idea what they are talking about

Ignore that zk-snarks is literally cianigger tech.

ZEC will crush 2018 and plebs will watch

RETARD. READ THE ACTUAL PAPER. THEY SEEN MONERO TOO (HOW WONT YOU FUCKIN SEE MONERO WHEN YOU OPEN THE WALLET ON A PC? YOU DONT GET SHOWN BALANCE ON YOUR OWN FUCKING NODE NOW???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????)

YOURE THE RETARD WHO SAID THAT CIA SEEN ZCASH BALANCE BUT NOT MONERO BALANCE LOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOL
KYS NIGGER
LEARN TO USE FACTS

i.imgur.com/SietBhv.png

sit down and shut the fuck up until your learn what you are talking about

HERES FACT NUMBER ONE.
EXPONENTIAL BECOMES LINEAR.
WELCOME QUANTUM COMPUTING, RETARD.
GOODBYE MONERO ((((((((((((((
ZK-LOL? ZK-LOL = WHOLE BLOCKCHAIN = QUANTUM USELESS

>It's just code

Well so are pictures of child porn.

NOW HOW ABOUT YOU SCROLL DOWN A BIT YOU GODDAMN IDIOT AND READ THE PART WHERE THEY SAY WEVE SEND 20 000 ZCASH TO GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED ADDRESS XTYZASJDFANHSFKLH@ AND 500 000 MONERO TO ADDRESS ASDFJKLNASFKBNJ!@$&*( ????????????????????????????
HELLO MORON HOW DID THEY SEND 500 000 MONERO ????????
MAYBE THEY TRACED PUBLIC TRANSACTS OF ZCASH WHICH ACT SAME AS BITCOIN TRASNCATS???? HELLO DOG YOU HERE?

This is what happens when pajeets try to pump

Im fucking dying

IM FUCKING DYING (((((((
FAKT #1 QUANTUM
FAKT#2 I LL TELL PEOPLE A BULLSHIT STORY (HEY CIA SAID IN A REPORT THAT THEY'VE TRACED !!!!!!!! PUBLIC !!!!!!!! TRANSACTIONS OF ZCASH!!!!!!!! WOoooooooOOOOOW!!!!!!) TO PROVE MY POINT!!!!!!!

LOOOOOK AT ME IM SO COOL WITH MY MONERO XDDDDD I TOTALLY USE FACTS YOU GUYS!!!!!! VERY HIGH TRHEE DIGIT IQ HOLDER HERE.
KYS KYS KYS KYS

HELLO ANIMAL HERE?
1) PROVE TRACEABILITY OF SHIELDED TRANSACTIONS IN ZCASH
2) WHAT DOES MONERO DO VS QUANTUM COMPUTER?
HELLO DOG??????

touch a nerve, poo?

>FAKT #1 QUANTUM

Nobody cares because its bullshit. You're not hitting anything groundbreaking there, Raj.

>(HEY CIA SAID IN A REPORT THAT THEY'VE TRACED !!!!!!!! PUBLIC !!!!!!!! TRANSACTIONS OF ZCASH!!!!!!!! WOoooooooOOOOOW!!!!!!)

Do you even understand what public transactions are?

Or is it just getting too hot in Hyderabad?

>HELLO DOG??????

How does it feel when I tell you that I took the virginity of an Indian medical resident last summer, under the nose of her cuck 10-year arrange marriage boyfriend?

((((((((((((((((
I LL TELL GOOGLE WHO INVESTED 20 BILLION DOLLARS THAT QUANTUM IS NOT HAPPENING THEN (((((((((((((((((
ITS A HOAX!!!!!!! NOT REAL!!!!!!!
CARNADO DOES QUANTUM RESISTANT SIGNATURE (((((((( WHY ARE THEY SPENDING YEARS OF WORK FOR THAT??? LOL RETARDED CHARLES HOSKINSON AND HIS IOHK. USELESS ORG ANYWAY TOTAL SCAM DIDNT START ETHER OR BITSHARES AT ALL XDDDDDDDDDD
NICE TO SEE YOU NOT ANSWERING A SINGLE POINT YOU BRAINDEAD DOG (((((((((
ILL KILL YOUR MOTHER WITH A KNIFE ILL STAB HER STOMACH 40 TIMES AND MAKE YOU WATCH ;) SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR SO DONT BE SUPRISED.

Thanks for brightening my night, Raj. I'll pour one out for you.

>Holding 99 moneros

Guys what should i do.

When is it gonna moon

Ree

LOOK AT ME IM HAVING A LAST WORD XXDDDDD IM SO COOOOL
IM THE COOLEST 20 YEAR OLD THERE IS XDDDD
REMINDER MONERO SUPPORTER CAN NOT ANSWER TWO SIMPLE QUESTIONS AND EVADES THEM ;) BUT ITS A COOL COIN TOTALLY SUPPORT IT GUYS!

Is this real life?

this guy has been right with bitcoin so far

tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/cVJUZdIF-fibs-predicting-bullish-BTC-price-increase/

he's got this on monero

tradingview.com/chart/XMRUSD/89VEffxW-Monero-s-dwindling-supply-10k-in-2019-scenario/

I want to believe but it seems too good to be true. Wth is that spiral anyway and is it really gonna just keep going up for years to come?

bro, i'm your bro from up there
they don't get it, let them fuckin lose lol
i've tried a few times tonight, last night and nights before. I've stayed quite a bit calmer than you but i have been on the verge of stopping. They don't understand the game that is being played, not to mention half of these posts aren't even real people.
If you're done accumulating, start mining. It will be increasingly profitable in years to come and newbs will once again flock to GPUs and by the time they try, we'll have bought them all.
Zcash will go parabolic at any time. newfags have been warned, again...

Obsolete in one day after wraith protocol added to verge

>not to mention half of these posts aren't even real people

What the fuck

This guy gets it

mONERO, BUT FOR PHONES. tHINK ABOUT IT.

>Monero thread gets made
>Pajeets flock to monero threads to shill Verge
KEK

Monero gets the same hate as BTC cuz its so good ;)

On what website do you guys buy and sell monero? coinbase dont have it :(

Miners should be pushing the price on the traders. XMR is gonna be more valuable than ethereum as bitcoin starts making noise no governments, then Monero is the way to go.

Keep mining and pushing upwards

Makes my night to see people still discussing Monero

I got in. Looks like it bottomed out

Just use Verge XVG. Wraith launches tomorrow. Anonymous transfer FTW. Plus I believe they are working on the ability to transfer coins without an exchange. How's about paying no exchange rate?

...

Or is it a dream?
Is this reality,
Or is it fantasy?

[spoiler]MONERO IS THE BITCOIN KILLER[/spoiler]

Nice. the last floor before it tripled was around 120 mil sat as well.

Holding 29 XMR, but I'm wondering if atomic swaps will be a thing for Monero?

Monero has legs, but when regulation starts to really hit crypto it will lose a lot of value, along with every other anonymity coin. 1st world governments can ban it, yes, without banning all crypto, and can take effective steps in enforcing such a ban. All that has to be done is to require accounting/transfer transparency under the guise of preventing money laundering, criminal use, or supporting terrorism. And it definitely WILL be done. Privacy coins will be relegated to decentralized exchanges and third world exchanges, 1st world investors will leave in droves under threat of asset seizure and possible criminal prosecution. Crypto is going mainstream, and it will have to go legit in the process.

If Monero gets banned and Bitcoin doesn't that will be all you need to know.

People care about privacy when it comes to money. The opinions of people with less than $1000 don't matter.

Get 200 xmr. Buying a spread like that is for people too lazy or too low iq to do proper research. Do some research and be 10x richer because you won't have to hedge your bets with obvious trash.

It's mooning right now! Commence liftoff !

bottom point is if crypto will ever be widely use and be more valuable it will be because normies can use it to buy mcdonalds or pay for their candy crush games, they dont care about whats anonymous, encrypted, or what uses the more secure transaction or whatever thing you may think makes some crypto more valuable... Same reson apps like whatsapp, viber and other stuff will always be vastly more used than better apps

>+1.47%
>mooning

Get the fuck out of my board boomerfag

ledger support expected in the coming months. I'm not expecting any moon missions from this, just steady healthy growth. XMR should be on everyones hodl list.

>If Monero gets banned and Bitcoin doesn't that will be all you need to know.
I don't know that it would be outright banned by name, but if the SEC demands that exchanges only list traceable currencies, and the IRS demands that holders of crypto assets account for the provenance of their holdings, then the result would be a de facto ban. If the US does it (which is likely) then you can bet Europe, east Asia and the civilized parts of the middle east will follow in some form, which would pretty much relegate privacy coins to third world investors and criminals, effectively crushing their value. There are some 1st and 4th ammendment arguments to be made in defense of privacy coins, but they're not likely to succeed. It's too easy to make the case that untraceable money has no exclusive legal use.

Zcash is the play. run it

Accumulating this in anticipation of the code rebase. Could be taking off again soon.

That's wrong though, most people don't care that google know everything about their porn fetish but letting your account summary on a public ledger where everyone who exchanged money with you can know about it is another story.
There is a reason why swiss banking was so successful.

Zencash is great but it's redundant, only one privacy coin will make it into the mainstream and I don't see why Monero would not get it.

What's the best/easiest way to buy?

Can't decide if I want more Monero or Ark before the fork, damn

Monero cannot go government mainstream, sorry
needs to be i2p
it will be zcash.

Cryptocurrencies should be banned, they were created to circumvent the state. The point is that banning them doesn't kill them, decentralization makes it almost impossible, it's like the BitTorrent of money. Being private makes regulation even harder.

If governments are smart (they're stupid but they like money) they will realise they can't kill cryptocurrencies but they can try and get people to use the one that helps them most. Transparent blockchains are orwellian when it come to government surveillance. It also poses huge problems for any type of real world use to the point where I can't see bitcoin ever becoming serious money.

>Want anonymity
>Use backdoored crypto currency

There is no such thing as "semi"-anonymity, either you have it or you do not. The "only us" approach also does not work since secret keys and shit tend to get leaked. The FBI got fucking hacked themselves I mean what the actual fuck.

So ether:
=> BTC, full transparency
OR
=> Monero, full anonymity

Monero is not yet perfect (long scanning time, large blockchain, IP exposed) but is the best privacy you will get for now

Do your research please. Verge is actually 100% anonymous unlike Monero. Tomorrow, you'll be posting Wojaks.

you can buy monero with fiat on kraken

i understand this, but as governments are in control of Bitcoin, the value will be built on ZEC

I don't know if these retarded fudders are funded by the CIA or whales who want to accumulate as much xmr as possible. I guess there are enough morons in the world for them to emerge naturally but God damn.