I was talking to a Catholic the other day, and he told me, among other things...

I was talking to a Catholic the other day, and he told me, among other things, that true freedom is following God's will. That stuck out at me though, because as I understand it, that pretty much just boils down to living how the church says to. That is some 1984 tier doublethink if you ask me. Explain yourselves, Christfags.

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Freedom is fundamentally ability to choose. But the cannot truly choose is his choices are based on lie. But if they are based on Truth then it's logical that man ought to choose True above false, good over evil, even though he can choose otherwise. So we are right to say that Man is more free when he chooses good aka fallows God will aka fallows Church teaching for then he makes choice to choose good and truth when being imersed and based upon truth.

Or in words of pic related

“True freedom is not advanced in the permissive society, which confuses freedom with license to do anything whatever and which in the name of freedom proclaims a kind of general amorality. It is a caricature of freedom to claim that people are free to organize their lives with no reference to moral values, and to say that society does not have to ensure the protection and advancement of ethical values. Such an attitude is destructive of freedom and peace.”

“You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. These words contain both a fundamental requirement and a warning: the requirement of an honest relationship with regard to truth as a condition for authentic freedom, and the warning to avoid every kind of illusory freedom, every superficial unilateral freedom, every freedom that fails to enter into the whole truth about man and the world.”

This is because papist morons hijacked religious existentialism. Kierkagaard was heavily critical of his country's church.

The most sensible point of view is that of the Neoplatonists. From their point of view freedom is a weakness since it means the capcity to act badly. Complete submission to the Good, hence unfreedom, is the ideal.

true freedom isnt being chained and being controlled by your vices like women, porn, drugs, alcohol, money etc

True freedom is being able to choose porn one day and God the next.

Demonic god

Cringed

Catholics LARPing as existentialists might be the most cringy thing ever

Why are women a vice?

cause dat pussy so tight it's like putting my dick in a vice grip

What if I want to abort a pregnancy that got a 100% chance of killing my wife without risking her health or making her sterile?

You are on a site to discute history and various philosphies and religions of the world
They literally gave you the answer you wanted and you act like an ungrateful bitch

Cringe.

This is pretty much what Catholics believe. Its a definition of freedom which pretty much ignores any sort of modern legal definition and instead uses some abstract Catholic theology.

In other words the church's definition is functionally meaningless to anyone who does not accept their assumptions. Now you could say that about almost any definition, but we prefer as a society definitions that apply the the largest number of people possible.

>What if I want to abort a pregnancy that got a 100% chance of killing my wife without risking her health or making her sterile?
That would fall under acceptable exceptions in pro-life circles, since it's a death sentence for everyone involved if the pregnancy continues.

>That stuck out at me though, because as I understand it, that pretty much just boils down to living how the church says to.

The church worships the devil, not that which is God - end of story.

"I read a story about a talking burning bush, I'm more important than the High King of Egypt! Hep dep! Give me your money or die!"

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Yes, except instead of letting them drink a simple chemical formula that just destroy the zygote and end the pregnancy you have to risk harming the woman and decrease her fertility by surgically removing the tube the zygote is in. This is strange because the only difference is that now you indirectly instead of directly and now you harm the woman while doing it.

Moses had horns due to a translation error you silly goose

You do know that there is billion catholics, right? And another billion post-catholics that adhere to the same standards?
>Being faggot
Actually, no. Saint Jerome had horns of light in mind while he translated this word in particular.

this is an idiotic post. Most of the billion official catholics don't adhere to catholic standards at all. The post catholics certainly don't

>Moses had horns due to a translation error you silly goose


Due to the fates. God is a living spirit being, not a dead text of psycho-killing laws that hasn't changed in 2500 years.

Worship the devil, go to hell where you belong - that's the deal - it's all clearly laid out in the gospels. Follow Moses = eternal punishment.

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>Moses had horns due to a translation error you silly goose


Due to the fates. God is a living spirit being, not a dead text of psycho-killing laws that hasn't changed in 2500 years.

Worship the devil, go to hell where you belong - that's the deal - it's all clearly laid out in the gospels:

Follow Moses = eternal punishment.

Better read the terms and conditions carefully before you run around claiming to work for intergalactic superhuman beings.

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>Saint Jerome had horns of light in mind while he translated this word in particular.
Proof?

What the hell are you on about?