Name a more useless empire

name a more useless empire

The Bizantine after 1204.

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Angevin 'empire'

>lmao niggers are shit amirite?

Benin is cool; but empire is definitely a stretch. Mali and Songhai can be called empires, but Benin would be like saying the Empire of Ireland.

can ottoman history just be summarized as
>dude land lol!
>dude slaves lol!
>dude decline lol!

Why are Turks so bad at aesthetics? The only good thing in their """"culture"""" was what they stole from the Romans and Persians.

They had their usefulness. They created a situation where all of Europe decided to sail around the world instead of having to pay high prices to the Ottomans to get goods from China and India. In short, without the Ottomans, the age of exploration, colonization and imperialism would never have happened. But seriously, all they did was sit on top of the Roman infrastructure, and didn't even improve upon it.

>Rome creates an empire
>Everyone conquered and those not conquered want to join it
>Ottomans create an empire
>Everyone conquered and those around want to fuck off

>where all of Europe decided to sail
What did he mean by this? Western Europe=/=Europe.
>Everyone conquered and those around want to fuck off
Which is a natural reaction. Nobody wants to be within an empire. If that was true colonial empires would still be around.

The powers of Europe not under Ottoman rule and that had access to ports. Happy?


And yet, the one thing Rome was good at, and one reason why it lasted so long, was because conquered people were happy being part of the Roman empire and started seeing themselves as Roman (even before Caracalla made it law).

>The powers of Europe not under Ottoman rule and that had access to ports. Happy?
You're still forgetting Austria-Hungary, Poland and Russia which made up the other half of Eastern Europe.

>btfo wh*Tes
>useless
pick one

>Which is a natural reaction. Nobody wants to be within an empire. If that was true colonial empires would still be around.
Not nessecarily, other polities actively strove to be annexed into rome proper.

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>Rome creates an empire
>..those not conquered want to join it
Umm....not really sweetie.

>they had their usefulness
>they were so useless nobody wanted to have anything to do with them, sailing the opposite way to an entirely new continent.
Sounds about right

Would Veeky Forums jerk off the Ottoman Empire if it was Christian?

Like 99% of the Ottoman Empire's issues, from subjugating different, more interesting evolved cultures to failing to develop, build and industrialise their territories is a huge turnoff and a complete waste of power, islamic or not.

I'm literally triggered, these borders are not ok and neither is the use of "Empire" for the Khazars

Christian Ottoman Empire would a lot be like Russian Empire.

We would still have our own butthurt belt and be poor.

>more interesting evolved cultures

Yeah 20 different brands of slavshit, arab and caucasians are so much more interesting than the synthesis of turkic,persian and eastern roman culture we got.

>there is not a single day that a butthurt faggot makes a thread bashing the ottoman empire or turks in general

Tell me Veeky Forums why does the ottoman empire make you so butthurt?

Your """"culture"""" is an unappealing, bastardized Arab who fucked up ancient Persian, Eastern Roman, Slavic, Caucasian and Levantine cultures

>Eastern Roman
could you please not call Greek larpers "Roman"

ty.

Not everyone one, but a lot of them did, and some states actively sought to join Rome.
>Sweetie
Please stop.