>A BRITON who lived 10,000 years ago had dark brown skin and blue eyes. At least, that’s what dozens of news stories last month – including our own – stated as fact. Now one of the geneticists who performed the research says the conclusion is not certain, and according to others we are not even close to knowing the skin colour of any ancient human.
>But a recent DNA analysis suggested that Cheddar Man mayhave had dark skin. To show this, a team including Susan Walsh at Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis read Cheddar Man’s DNA. Walsh had helped develop a model that predicts someone’s eye, hair and skin colour from their DNA, and the team applied this technique to Cheddar Man.
>The team had used some of the data to “train” their model on how skin colour lines up with the 36 DNA markers. When the team ran Cheddar Man’s DNA through the model, it judged that his skin colour was “dark” or “dark to black”.
>Walsh says the study doesn’t prove that Cheddar Man had dark to black skin. For one thing, his DNA has degraded over the past 10,000 years. “It’s not a simple statement of, ‘This person was dark-skinned,’ ” she says.
>“Known skin pigmentation genes, discovered primarily in East Asian and European populations, don’t explain the variation in skin pigmentation in African populations. The idea that there are only about 15 genes underlying skin pigmentation isn’t correct.” It seems that many more genes affect skin colour.
>Henn’s team has tested an older model that aimed to predict skin colour from DNA. For southern African people, “it predicted that people with the darkest skins would have the lightest skin”.
>likely wasn't dark-skinned What's with the /pol/ revisionist bullshit? He was likely dark skinned but not black. Probably like a Tamil.
Brayden Wood
There is bound to be a dark-skinned ancestor in Europe but they jumped the gun because they got excited with their discovery.
Luke Cox
There is no universal definition of dark-skinned. /pol/s favorite website blacked doesn't represent ancient European skin color variation one bit.
Luke Ross
I'm sowwy. It hurts but CHEDDAR MAN WAS DARK.
Nathan Turner
>ignoring the source
Logan Hughes
Imagine what a mindfuck it would be for Cheddar to find out his brown skin color would cause so much autism 10000 years later
Hunter Hill
Why do you think he looks so smug?
Nicholas Ramirez
The thing is, there is an actual SJW conspiracy here but /pol/ totally missed it. The real Cheddar man had a robust MANLY jaw unlike this intergender thing but since /pol/ is filled with lowtest tinyjawed cucks obsessed with cuckold porn they didn't want to notice this. Truly sad is the current state of the world when both the lowtest cucks of /pol/ and SJW researchers are all singing the false song of estrogen.
Chase Hall
>conspiracy
Gabriel Scott
Skull doesn't match the cuckface. You can't say 1+1=0.
Bentley Scott
>what is perspective The mandible of the skull is smaller in other photos. >arithmetics=photo comparison These brainlets are out of control.
Matthew Myers
Perspective is roughly the same but the jaw don't match. Deal with it.
Cooper Robinson
The UK has to make their new citizens feel comfortable somehow. Within your lifetime history will be revised to show that the UK was majority pakistani and Nigerian since the beginning. Enjoy.
William Mitchell
Leave it to the Angloid seven headed dragon of estrogen to destroy whatever is left of logic and decency in this world.
Nathan Rogers
The jaw matches.
The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly and look for ghosts is evidence of their political agenda.
Austin Foster
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Nicholas Clark
>and according to others we are not even close to knowing the skin colour of any ancient human.
well ok
Justin Gutierrez
>Le alt-lite (((pseudoscience))) xD
Adrian Green
he could have been he could have not been why care, its like germaniggers claiming to be romans rather than proud of the hapsburg empire
Bentley Green
>I disagree >must be alt-right Kys
Kayden Lee
It really doesn't and it's not a matter of perspective. There's something seriously wrong with the reconstruction. Sure maybe it's due to incompetence and not a vast conspiracy but with Brits you never know.
Aiden Morgan
>not a matter of perspective It is.
The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly and look for ghosts is evidence of their political agenda.
Angel Fisher
Don't you fags mostly care about skull and face shape, he's still got a very brit/euro face shape so who cares about his color, plus they were probably settlers from around the birth place of man, so shouldn't you be rejoicing that even the earliest humans looked European
John Cruz
Reconstructions are not hard science. They are art and should be considered nothing more. You have an obvious political agenda yourself no lesser than that of /pol/. Very clear you are the sort of person who has no problem with distortion of the past as long as it's done by leftists.
Samuel Evans
>When the team ran Cheddar Man’s DNA through the model, it judged that his skin colour was “dark” or “dark to black”. Literally, the only part that's relevant.
Connor Scott
nah skull shape doesnt show nose nor his BLUE EYES AND BLONDE HAIR
Juan Morgan
>reconstructions are not hard science Reconstructions are as reliable as race forensics.
I'm sorry sweetie, but Cheddar man reconstruction is pretty much accurate.
>you are The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly and look for ghosts is evidence of their political agenda.
Justin Collins
>Reconstructions are not hard science. are you kidding? reconstructions always look like shit. I know many if you grew up indoctrinated into “le SCIENCE RULEZ” bull-crab but it should be obvious to anyone with half-way common sense that reconstructing facial profile based on bones/dna is nowhere near adequate yet.
Carson Ramirez
meant for
Camden Rivera
Oh so he wasn't black, just "probably" black and "given the evidence it's rational to assume" he's black.
Juan Perez
No, the relevant part is that the same process gave erroneous results in other cases, and that it isn't a good way to establish skin colors. You'll have to try harder. I bet you don't believe in race realism, and that has far better empirical grounding than this.
Wyatt Wilson
>just "probably" black No, likely not. There's no reason to assume that he had dark skin at all. Did you even read the article? >given the evidence You mean the one that's disavowed by the very fucking person behind the study?
Gabriel Anderson
Reconstruction based on forensics is more accurate than your whining and suspicion of pure perspective mind-fuckery.
The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly and look for ghosts is evidence of their political agenda.
Colton Flores
>No, the relevant part is that the same process gave erroneous results in other cases, and that it isn't a good way to establish skin colors. >Henn’s team has tested an older model that aimed to predict skin colour from DNA. For southern African people, “it predicted that people with the darkest skins would have the lightest skin”. hurr durr
Grayson Lopez
I have no agenda here other than a hatred of Brits because they keep politicizing things which have no inherent connection to politics like the skin tones of ancient humans. It's such a meaningless thing by itself and represents little more than the smallest conceivable fraction of human genetic variation. This reconstruction isn't peer reviewed and will never be peer reviewed so it's not science. There's nothing else to it. Just some shitty art which matches the skull at no perspective.
Eli Richardson
Yes, as I said, erroneous. I guess you ignored the part too where the woman behind it said it wasn't accurate, >a team including Susan Walsh >Walsh says the study doesn’t prove that Cheddar Man had dark to black skin. For one thing, his DNA has degraded over the past 10,000 years. “It’s not a simple statement of, ‘This person was dark-skinned,’ ” she says. THE ALT-RIGHT FUCKING GOT TO HER, GET HER GUYS.
Ryan Carter
>Did you even read the article? No on did because it's behind a way wall. Did you even click the link?
Are you using google translate to read the texts or something? Read the text quoted again, it directly contradicts what you said.
Jordan Fisher
Where's the contradiction?
Carter Ortiz
>emagazine is this like sci hub which lets me read shit for free
Jackson Young
>Reconstruction based on forensics is more accurate it comes out like shit everytime, it’s not accurate. Also forensics is only 50% accurate in a law/criminal justice sense.
Grayson Hernandez
Chedder kinda looks like a dark skinned Thom Yorke
Carson Cook
Oh yeah, this reminds me. The famous Kennewick man reconstruction which looked like Patrick Stewart? It turns out that it was based on Patrick Stewart. Google James Chatters Patrick Stewart. >One night it struck him: “I was watching reruns on television and I thought, 'It's Patrick Stewart!'
Nice fucking """""science""""""". Jesus fucking Christ. Some people will defend this and Cheddar man reconstruction. Not the same people obviously since muh politics. It's about as scientific as interpretive dance is physics.
Thomas Harris
Still reconstruction based on forensics is more accurate than your whining and suspicion of pure perspective mind-fuckery.
The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly and look for ghosts is evidence of their political agenda.
William Howard
It matches the skull, user. Just because you repeat it one more, it won't become true.
Thomas Cook
>The fact that these people vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge and the Cheddar man reconstruction so quickly I think it's quick because news articles keep trying to represent things as absolute fact and then anyone who thinks "this sounds off" and looks into it any deeper quickly finds it's anything BUT set in stone.
It's pretty easy and quick to find that something isn't sound and established fact, it's much harder to find what said facts are.
Brody Robinson
Now criticize the contentious and absurd link drawn between Cheddar man and immigration politics. >Yoan Diekmann, a computational biologist at University College London and another member of the project’s team, agreed, saying the connection often drawn between Britishness and whiteness was “not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will change”.
Logan Bell
>scientific knowledge
Austin Kelly
>all these buthurt alt left soyboys
Michael Anderson
>using soyboy as an insult
Jaxon Edwards
"Fake news alert: there are a few fake science articles going around with a new reconstruction of a WHG skull from England known as Cheddar man. I have stated that WHG had darker skin than modern Europeans and that they also all had blue eyes. We cannot tell exact pigmentation but to call them “black” is incredibly dishonest because it not only describes a complexion we cannot confirm but also a specific genetic racial category that WHG did NOT fall into. The closest living relatives to WHG are modern Europeans such as Estonians who have a lot of WHG dna and are not African! The reconstruction not only makes the man very dark, but also beardless like many Africans and lacking the distinct brow ridges that those with significant Neanderthal admixture have (Africans do not have this and WHG did). Facial reconstruction leaves a lot of room for the “imagination” of the reconstructor.
Another misleading headline describes the ceddar man as a “briton” which makes no sense because as i have explained, a 2017 study showed that over 90% of the DNA of the British isles was replaced in the late neolithic by an invasion of bell beaker people from Holland who were themselves descended in part from steppe peoples. All celtic and germanic people in Britain are descended from these people, so 10,000 years ago most of our ancestors were living in Russia and were not in any way black! Those people are the ancient britons since they are the progenitors of our people.
Media twist scientific facts for an obvious agenda. Please be aware that all science is heavily politicised these days."
Now accept the African, whitey
Elijah Hernandez
Chedder man has very little genetic relation to modern britons, considering a replacement from Holland changed the dna of the British isles.
Thomas Price
>the leftypol subhuman thinks soyboy is a badge of honor
Elijah Perez
Muh based cheddar man was of western hunter gatherer stock, not african. The whole thing is pointless because modern brits are mostly descended from germanic people who orignally came from the causcus mountains etc. Here in the UK it was VERY clearly pushed for an agenda, to let them justify the mass immigration of the 'new British people'
Connor Wright
The cheddar man is an attempt to destroy the idea of the native British people's claim to their homeland.
Owen Sullivan
back to the abyss you go, cuck
Jose Thompson
>the leftypol soyboy is literally crying for an anti white safespace for his nigger worship now this is the power of the soybean
Gabriel James
>politics You know what to do now. >i think Nice scientific rebutal. Huh?
Alexander Sanders
Is this kid literally using mspaint transform tools to argue the archeologists and anthropologists steeped in this research for years are making false claims?
I know this is Veeky Forums but a higher level of discourse than this is expected of you, user.
Joshua Sanchez
>this /pol/ natsoy boy is literally crying for an anti-jew safespace for his BLACKED worship now so this is the power of natsoy boy delusions
Ayden Watson
>and >then >he >DIED Or was replaced It doesn't matter what color ancient inhabitants of britain were. ANGLO-SAXONS and CELTS have inhabited the island for most of written history now.
Levi Russell
>pretending to be above it >fills out monstrous captcha so that we all know "centrists" everybody i hope it was worth identifying all those pictures of roads, autist
Camden Myers
nice
Logan Williams
so someone is lying here
Brody Gonzalez
>the soyboy jew worshiper literally can't stop talking about his nigger porn I though pornography was a tool of the porky, leftypol?
Ryan Hernandez
because this is nothing like
Jackson Butler
I believe you haven't read this:
Adrian Morales
It's really not that hard to imagine. >ANGLO-SAXONS CAME FROM THE SAME STOCK AS PAKISTANIS AND NIGERIANS SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ANYWAY >WE SHOULD ALL MOVE TO PAKISTAN OUR TRUE HOMELAND BROTHERS
Jose Brown
and another reconstruction again someone is lying
David Foster
>vehemently keep denying scientific knowledge STOP QUESTIONING MY SCIENCE GUYS I wasn't involved and I didn't read any of the details but my faith WILL NOT BE SHAKEN.
Isaiah Diaz
Hey, one of us has got to start doing it.
Caleb Ward
>the natsoy boy BLACKED worshiper literally can't stop talking about BLACKED porn I though(t) being cucked by strong men was something /pol/ wanted, cuck?
Cooper Bailey
Does the possibility exist in the most remote corner of your tiny brain that the journalists who released this picture with clickbait titles also have a political agenda?
Jose Hill
The artists behind these reconstructions always go with their definition of dark-skinned or swarthy. That's why there is inconsistency when it comes to WHG reconstructions. We have absolutely no idea what their exact pigment was with just DNA alone.
Isaac Allen
you only have to look at the reconstruction to see how politically motivated is -native american scull -asian form of eyes -blue eyes too look a little european -and even you couldnt tell if he/she of what gender if is,by how deliverately the reconstrucion was made its pure bullshit,its the reconstruction of the new "british" so all the new inmigrant could feel at home,is repugnant
Dominic Morris
>this is what the leftypol soyboy think is goijng to the a rise out of people Also, why can't you stop talking about your cuck porn? You do realize Stalin only like little girls, right?
Jeremiah Bennett
>the connection often drawn between Britishness and whiteness was “not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will change”. lmao i'd love to see them try that with any number of other countries >the connection between china and chineseness is not an immutable truth >the idea that japanese are asian has always changed and will change
Eli Gomez
>i didn't read It shows. >politics You know what to do now.
Xavier Ward
>this is what /pol/ natsoy boys thinks is going* to get a rise out of people Also, why can't you stop talking about your BLACKED porn? You do realize Hitler only like(s) his food with soy, right?
Dylan Lee
im not talking about the skin color its the scull form an the reconstruction that is pure bullshit
Grayson Walker
>the leftypol soyboy is still trying bless
Bentley Gray
>native american skull Only his cheekbones look amerindian. The rest of his face looks like a mutt between mongol-southeuropean with indian skin.
Levi Torres
>the /pol/ natsoy boy is still trying bless
Caleb Foster
>that desperate attempt at a last word don't you have a carton of soylent to finish, leftypol?
Asher Carter
>that desperate attempt at a last word don't you have a carton of soylent to finish for Tyrone, cuck?
Caleb Ward
>the faggot who literally worships black supremacists is calling someones else a cuck reminder that leftypol openly donated to BLM and Hillary
Ryder Stewart
>the faggot who literally worships natsoy boy Nazis is calling someone else a soyboy reminder that /pol/ likes to be cucked by strong men
Robert Perry
>the the cuck porn obsessed leftypol soyboy is literally saying that /pol./ is cuked because they don't worship jews, and niggers unlike leftypol this is what soyboys actually believe
Bentley Harris
Do you realize that soyboy is just an insulting term for people like you and not a scientific classification? Being a soyboy has nothing to do with drinking soymilk or consuming soy products, and acting as if it does just makes you look autistic.
You can't just reverse it and expect it to stick. Doing so only further legitimizes the phrase and makes it stick to you more since the word will always first and foremost refer to you. You're like a Jew trying to insult gentiles by calling them kikes, at the end of the day the only thing you're doing by using kike as insult is affirming the idea that it's bad to be Jewish.
Kevin Rodriguez
t. soy consumer
Kevin Peterson
>the soy obsessed /pol/ natsoy boy is literally saying that leftypol is cucked because they don't drink soy milk like BLACKED strong men unlike /pol/ this is what natsoy boys actually believe
Gabriel Campbell
You sound like you drink soy milk, cuck.
Hudson Wood
>the soyboy is still sperging out over THIS single post
why why are leftypol soyboys so fragile seeing another soyboy vanguard of the revolution in a cock cage?
Logan Bell
I prefer almond to be honest. Soymilk tastes gross.
Christian Sanders
the natsoy boy is still sperging out over THIS single post why are /pol/ natsoy boys so fragile over seeing their role model be a soyboy? nice reddit spacing, cuck. back to /r/the_donald you go.
