Human sacrifice and Cannibalism

This thread is to talks about human sacrifice and cannibalism in history in general.

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The body of 10-year-old girl Ayesha, who had gone missing on Wednesday night, was found in an isolated place near Hosahalli on the outskirts of Bengaluru on Friday.

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Hitobashira (人柱 human pillar), practiced formerly in Japan, is a human sacrifice, buried alive under or near large-scale buildings like dams, bridges, and castles, as a prayer to the gods so that the building is not destroyed by natural disasters such as floods or by enemy attacks. Hitobashira can also refer to workers who were buried alive under inhumane conditions.

Here is a paper if you want to know more about human sacrifice in ancient Japan :
opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3320&context=ocj

Animistic beliefs, i.e. that the essence of life itself carried power, existed even in Europe well into the modern period. It was common for executioners to make a few coins on the side by selling ointments made of human fat that supposedly cured all kinds of ailments.

Human sacrifice is far more common in countries like India where a minority of tantric shamans still promote it to gullible communities of uneducated peasants.

Best known in the West as techniques to prolong and intensify sexual pleasure, in remote areas tantric rituals loosely derived from the Hindu faith can also include animal, and, in extreme cases, human sacrifice to please the gods and guarantee good luck.

It is so widespread that in 2006 there were 28 cases of human sacrifice in just four months in the northern province of
Uttar Pradesh.

Pic related is Lalita Tati, poor victim of superstitious beliefs.

You think every animism is naturally promoting human sacrifice? Because there is some positive things with Hindu or Orisha beliefs, Indians and Africans need to update their religions.

>existed even in Europe well into the modern period
Sources?

This article talks about the last human sacrifice in Europe :
strangehistory.net/2011/08/02/last-human-sacrifice-in-europe/

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Julius Caesar's Commentaries offers another explanation for Gallic human sacrifice;

the Gauls were an incredibly superstitious people and routinely sacrificed people to cure their ills or please their cruel gods, often in a brutal fashion:

The entire nation of the Gauls is very given to religious scruples, and for this reason, those who are affected by grave diseases, and who take part in battle and in peril, either sacrifice men as victims or vow to sacrifice them, and they use druids as the performers of these sacrifices, because they believe that, unless for the life of a man, the life of a man is returned, the power of the immortal gods is not able to be appeased, and they have instituted sacrifices of this kind for the public. Others have images great in size, the limbs of which, interwoven with twigs, they fill with living humans; the men, with these having been set aflame, perish. The punishments for those apprehended in conspiracy or in thievery or in other crime are thought to be most pleasing to the immortal gods; but, when abundance of this kind fails, they even defer to the punishment of the innocent.

The Liberian Commander Who Practiced Human Sacrifice and Cannibalism to Increase His Power (1979-1993)

Milton Blahyi is a former feared rebel commander in Liberia's brutal civil war who was initiated as a tribal priest and participated in his first human sacrifice at the age of eleven. During the course of the ritual, Blahyi says that the "Devil" told him that he would become a great warrior and that he should continue to practice human sacrifice and cannibalism to increase his power. Later, the Krahn elders appointed him as high priest, a position that would lead him to become the spiritual advisor to Liberian President Samuel Doe.

Blahyi stopped fighting in 1996, saying God appeared to him and told him that he was doing Satan's work. So, he became an Evangelist preacher. Now, Blahyi, 42, is the President of the End Time Train Evangelistic Ministries Inc., with headquarters in Liberia.

There are numerous rumors of human sacrifices during the 1979-93 conflict, but Blahyi was never punished for his crimes. The Truth Commission's only mandate was to investigate the crimes. The International Criminal Court in The Hague only has jurisdiction over crimes that have been committed since it was founded in 2002.

Upon browsing through the internet, one will find that the practice of human sacrifice by several different cultures or religious groups throughout the world to appease the gods, or God, flies in the face of religious idealism.

Unfortunately, in Iran the act of stoning is cloaked in religion since it specifically falls under the dictates of “God's law” for the purpose of fulfilling or abiding by God's will, which makes it a human sacrifice.

Stoning is a recognized form of execution under Iran's penal code, which is based on Islamic Law. Considering that the Quran does not mention stoning as a prescribed method of execution, the practice finds its legality under Iran's debatable interpretation of Sharia law, which is considered by Muslims to be God's law.

So how is stoning carried out? After the convicted individual, who is a female in the vast majority of cases, is wrapped in a white shroud from head to toe and buried in a hole up to her breasts, rocks are then thrown at her head until she dies. Article 104 of Iran's Penal Code specifically states that the appropriate stones for carrying out the killing “not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes; nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stones.” According to reports, anywhere from ten to thirty minutes of pelting the victim's head with rocks by a group of citizens usually accomplishes the goal.

One of the most famous cases is that of Sakineh Mohammedie Ashtiani, a forty-three-year-old mother of two who was convicted of adultery by an Iranian court and was sentenced to death by stoning in 2006. The international publicity, generated through her children, led to numerous diplomatic conflicts between Iran's government and the heads of certain western governments. As a result, her execution has been stayed indefinitely.

Two Thousand Children Who were Allegedly Sold to Russia and Buried Under the Rails in Order to Strengthen Them (19th century)

The custom of burying infant children in the foundations of new buildings – a sacrifice to "ground" the building and assuage the gods of earthquakes, floods, and other misfortunes – was well established in ancient and even medieval times. However, nowadays we run into this extraordinary legend about the nineteenth-century Chinese and Russian railway.

According to the legend, as the Siberian Railway approached the northern boundaries of the Chinese Empire, a great amount of excitement was produced in Pekin by the rumor that the Russian minister had applied to the Empress of China for two thousand children to be buried in the roadbed under the rails in order to strengthen it.

The "rumor" can probably be brushed gently to one side, though it says a lot about nineteenth-century China that such a rumor could grow to maturity. Or is this just Russians barbarizing the Chinese with tall tales?

>Dr. Richard Sugg: ‘Good Physic but Bad Food’: Early Modern Attitudes to Medicinal Cannibalism and its Suppliers. In: English Studies, Durham University, Durham DH1 3HP, UK. Soc Hist Med 19. Durham, S. 225–240 (dur.ac.uk – The subject of medicinal cannibalism in mainstream western medicine has received surprisingly little historical attention. This paper argues that this phenomenon, far from being as marginal as its neglected status might imply, was closely integrated with many underlying medical theories in the early modern period. Moreover, the phenomenon sheds valuable light on the authority of learned medicine, attitudes to cannibalism and to the often emphatically spiritual basis of Paracelsian medicine. This article aims to show that, while widely accepted by patients and practitioners, corpse medicine was legitimised by a mixture of potentially incompatible factors, including rarity, spiritual virtue, learned authority and commercial normalisation. As historical circumstances changed, these factors would ultimately undermine a once mainstream medical treatment.).

"London Bridge Is Falling Down" is a traditional nursery rhyme and singing game which is found in different versions all over the world. Several theories have been advanced to explain the meaning of the rhyme and the identity of the "fair lady" of the refrain. One of these was based on the idea that the bridge would collapse unless the body of a human sacrifice was buried in its foundation. So "the watchman" of the refrain is actually a human sacrifice who will then watch over the bridge. However, there is no archaeological evidence of any human remains in the foundation of London Bridge.

It's believed that this rumor was started by Alice Bertha Gomme, a leading British folklorist and a pioneer in the study of children's games between 1894 and 1898, and perpetuated by Iona and Peter Opie, a husband-and-wife team of literature folklorists who applied modern techniques to children's literature using this song.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_Is_Falling_Down

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>Mummia, mumia, or originally mummy referred to several different preparations in the history of medicine, from "mineral pitch" to "powdered human mummies".

>By the 18th century, skepticism about the pharmaceutical value of mumia was increasing, and medical opinion was turning against its use. The English medical writer John Quincy wrote in 1718 that although mumia was still listed in medicinal catalogues, "it is quite out of use in Prescription".[26] Mummia was offered for sale medicinally as late as 1924 in the price list of Merck & Co..[27]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummia

Annual Customs of Dahomey

If you were president of a country like India or Uganda, how would you exterminate human sacrifices of your country?

>It is so widespread that in 2006 there were 28 cases of human sacrifice in just four months
Oh my! Is the situation like that in 2017?

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In Wanouchi, Gifu during the 1754 Horeki River Improvement Incident which involved the difficult and dangerous construction of river embankments, a local retainer voluntarily gave his life by remaining under the rushing water in order to keep a foundation pillar from moving until it could be secured from above. As well as aiding in the construction, this sacrifice was also treated as an offering to the gods ensuring the successful completing of the project (i.e., a hitobashira).

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Modernization + Education

youtube.com/watch?v=PknfxJHwpuI

The act or practice of feeding on dead bodies (necrophagia) is beyond comprehension in the western world. But in other cultures ritual cannibalism is a fact. This astonishing documentary filmed in India provides a very rare recording of this practice as well as its philosofical backround.

Varanasi is the holy city of Hinduism. More than 1 million believers arrive in this city every year, after a long trip, to die in the banks of the holy Ganga river. There, the Aghori Sadhus members of a sacred and ancient sect are searching for their way to heaven: Human remaining from the cremation grounds. They believe that by eating human flesh from the dead bodies floating in the Ganga they humiliate themselves therefore are reaching closer to God.

Aghoris seem to follow a path, which is strikingly opposite to that of ideal Hinduism. They take liquor, eat flesh and utter obscenities, meditate at night and have uninhibited sex. Aghoris are one of the most controversial of Hindu holy men (sadhus). People believe that Aghoris possess magical powers and stories of Aghoris curing people suffering from serious diseases are common in the Indian villages.

Aghoris

Also his nickname was "General Buttnacked" because he would fight naked.

Didn't know that thanks. That guy was a psycho.

Among the Calabar, Twin killing was a thing until Mary Slessor convinced the natives to stop. In Nigeria, even today there are battles with ritualists and arrests of individuals that carry out this juju practices. All these blood and flesh driven acts have been relegated to the criminal population.

>Mary Slessor
Thanks for introducing this woman to me.

Are you familiar with Mary Henrietta Kingsley as well? She wrote two books on West Africa, both available on project Gutenberg.
gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/1894
>Mary Slessor
gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=Mary Slessor

Gutenberg has some excellent books on Africa, I'm surprised it's not shilled more often.

>Are you familiar with Mary Henrietta Kingsley as well? She wrote two books on West Africa, both available on project Gutenberg.

Nope.
Thanks for these resources too.

The advantage with Gutenberg is that books are free.

>Indians and Africans need to update their religions.

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To not have sacrifice no more.

Sacrifices aren't part of the faith but the actions of certain actors in the pursuit of material gain/fame of some sort. What you are doing is conflating the sacrifices with those of the religion

Representant of the religion should explicitly say no to this and say that the God will punish severely people doing that, we also need death sentence for anyone doing it.

Are you extremely autistic as fuck or just really delusional about how faiths/people work?

>say that the God will punish severely people doing that

Are you just assuming they even have the concept of "God" that is similar to the Abrahamic God? Death penalties are useless as fuck

Yes, they have the God of Justice and Iron in Vodun(called Ogun) that can kill people if "they do bad things".

That's not a God user Ogun is a LOA/VODUN aka a spirit. NOT A GOD

He is a very powerful Vodun, on the level of Lisa Mawu(the supreme God).

No he isn't at all.

Also you fail to understand that this is an issue at the ground level between what is basically a customer and his client. ON top of that you fail to see on why a child sacrifice is used and how the sacrifice is basically off the books so to speak.

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How would you fight against human sacrifice in India or Uganda?

Also Lisa Mawu is the creator goddess for the Dahomey's.

Why the fuck are you popping the question at me?

You seems to have a lot of knowledge about how it works, I would like to know.

I'm not very qualified and I don't understand it, that's why I want your opinion.

You don't want to respond?

answer is to teach them Christianity

They already have that shit and honestly it's a fucking cancer in African society.

In south america you will hear in the news, not so often, how umbanda priests and some of their fellas raping, torturing and killing a child to apease their african gods