What would've happened if they didnt give it up?

What would've happened if they didnt give it up?

no peace with Egypt

more arab israeli wars

It would have destabilized them even more unless they killed/deported the entire population. It would be constant bombings and rebellion, and without workers the land would be worthless. Israel made the smarter move. They would have gone bankrupt

but egypt lost everytime

theres literally no one there

There was over 1mil living there. That's like 1/3 the population of Israel at the time (including Palestinians)

Sounds pretty easy to do.

>t. plays Vicky 2 with meme genocide mod

Sneed

You can't just go around massacring civilians in the 60s unless they're black or Vietnamese

Or any race?

but Hitler was basically doing eu4 culture conversion when he was playing with borders and populations

hmmm i beg to differ.

>There was over 1mil living there.
what. currently it has 1.4 million people in all, almost half living in western sinai on the suez canal towns. it probably was half that in the 1960s. a lot of immigration came in also from egyptians who moved for economic opportunities such as tourist industry. this was at the cost of the historic population of bedouins, who have historically given zero fucks about central governments whether arab, christian or jewish. israel has tons of bedouins for example. all israel would have to do is appease the bedouins with favorable policies regarding land and giving them local govt positions or something.

>You can't just go around massacring civilians in the 60s unless they're black or Vietnamese
>What are the Hungarian and Czechoslovakian revolts

Israel is on good terms with Egypt these days and that probably wouldn’t happen if Israel held the Sinai. Terrorists would have been hidden in the hills for a long time. Even if Israel was able to sniff them out, they would be dumping lots of resources into managing land that isn’t especially worth anything, except esoterically. More Hassides would have settled there, exacerbating the need to run security in the country whose land mass would have just doubled.

there are only terrorists there because they got radicalized by egyptian islamists and the bedouin's alienation from repressive egyptian govt policies.

Why was Israel unable to defeat Babylon?

i realy dont know what those two things are and iam Czech

I think part of the reason that keeping the Sinai wouldn't work is because the Israelis didn't really have a claim on the land, so to speak. After Sadat showed that he was willing to compromise there was no security reason to hold onto the land and the historical reason never existed in the first place.

He means the Czechoslovak revolt in 68. His timing is off with Hungary, that was in '56. Though the Prague Spring has a larger impact on the current conscious the Hungarian revolution was much deadlier

none of those things were genocide and thing that happened here in 1968 wasnt revolt

>none of those things were genocide
no one said anything about genocide. claimed that "massacring" civilians was unacceptable in the 60s and 50s unless you were Black or Vietnamese. The fact is that Soviets massacred civilizations during the Czechoslovak uprising. Although hungary might be off by 4 years, things in the 50s and 60s weren't that different.

what is mont sinai

>The fact is that Soviets massacred civilizations during the Czechoslovak uprising

>Israelis didn't really have a claim on the land, so to speak.
and did the egyptians?

Somewhere that was never under the control of Israel and Judah?

Ruled by the mamluks, ancient egyptians, Fatimids, modern Egypt from 1922 onwards, so yes.

philistea and phoenicia werent either

the suez canal should've never been under muslim rule

this is the current state of the lesspes statue, they guy that built the canal
absolutely disgraceful

and this before

> mamluks
t*rkic slave soldier elite
> ancient egyptians,
sinai has significant ties to primordial jewish past as well
> Fatimids
*rabian interlopers of shia faith
>modern Egypt from 1922 onwards
an *nglo puppet state till 1953

i'll give you modern egypt (an ottoman and *nglo vassal) controlled sinai, but their control of it is not some ironclad historical tradition, especially considering that there is no "egyptian" state that whose legitimacy can be seriously be traced with a straight line throughout history.

I mean compared to most territory outside of Europe and east Asia it has a much longer and stronger connection than most states to most of their territory. Certainly a much longer and consistent claim than the Jewish population could claim about Israel prior to the.modern era.

Israel can't annex shit because it would mean they would have to add the conquered peoples to the voting rolls or even without voting they'd lose their demographic jewish majority.

Israel can't start annexing or conquering ANYTHING unless they either

1. demolish their democracy and set up a state with explicit rights for jews only
2. keep their democracy but change it in such a way that only jews can vote and nonjews are deprived of their rights
3. simply kill/expel anyone living in conquered lands who isnt a jew

Neither option is poltically viable at the time. Maybe in 100 years or so if the trend of liberalism goes away, but it's not politically viable in currentyear.

>1. demolish their democracy and set up a state with explicit rights for jews only
>2. keep their democracy but change it in such a way that only jews can vote and nonjews are deprived of their rights
>3. simply kill/expel anyone living in conquered lands who isnt a jew

Its like you don't even acknowledge the existence of Palestinians.

They get around that by not counting them as part of the Israeli state. That's why they won't annex them. If they didn, they would have to become citizens and then they'd lose their majority.

It's better to just keep them in their open air ghetto under "occupation"

Now imagine trying to truly annex something greater israel size, the palestinian model wouldnt work on that scale

Palestine is more akin to an Indian reservation. It's just a place you put people you don't want. Conquering land is another matter entirely

Yes in the first six days they did but egypt is many times larger and the longer the war goes on the more the scale tips in Cairo's favour

I know, but I’m thinking terrorists would spring up in Sinai in resistance to the Israelis. It would be the perfect breeding ground of a situation for some guys to start hiding in caves.

Soviet Union gives heavier aid to it's arab allies, possibly nukes, Arab states and Israel nuke eachother, middle east problem solved.

spring up from where though? so long as you appease the bedouins they'll act as collaborators against any foreign insurgents who try to set up shot in the region. also the israeli security forces are more competent than the egyptian ones and they'd presumably set up a better system of monitoring the landscape.

20% of Israel's citizens are "Palestinian"